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  • Posts: 9,842
    TR007 wrote: »
    Anyone else think Disney are prolonging the production on this until Ford can no longer play the role?
    The Indy franchise would benefit massively from a full on Disney reboot. Kids don’t want to see a 70 year old hero on the big screen. They need a clean slate.

    I usually don’t mind recasting but looking at how they screwed up with solo no thanks
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    Anyone else think Disney are prolonging the production on this until Ford can no longer play the role?
    The Indy franchise would benefit massively from a full on Disney reboot. Kids don’t want to see a 70 year old hero on the big screen. They need a clean slate.

    I usually don’t mind recasting but looking at how they screwed up with solo no thanks

    Too bad River Phoenix is no longer with us.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    Anyone else think Disney are prolonging the production on this until Ford can no longer play the role?
    The Indy franchise would benefit massively from a full on Disney reboot. Kids don’t want to see a 70 year old hero on the big screen. They need a clean slate.

    I usually don’t mind recasting but looking at how they screwed up with solo no thanks

    Too bad River Phoenix is no longer with us.

    Yes....
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 5,767
    Interesting Points About the more serious aspects, @mattjoes. Now that you mentioned it, I think that is one Point that Always kept me from really getting any Feeling from Crystal Skull.
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    TR007 wrote: »
    Anyone else think Disney are prolonging the production on this until Ford can no longer play the role?
    The Indy franchise would benefit massively from a full on Disney reboot. Kids don’t want to see a 70 year old hero on the big screen. They need a clean slate.

    Well, in this case the kiddies can hit up Netflix or Hulu or put in the discs of the good ole days. No clean slate, just leave well enough, make that great, alone. It's all about the kids and that's part of the problem sometimes.

    I am somebody who understands the remakes and prequels and all that and sometimes I even enjoy them. But when it comes to Indy, don't mess with it. It's good as is. Do all the graphic novels and whatever else to continue mining the potential with this great character, but do not do a big screen version with Chris Pratt or whatever pretender comes along and bring in the CGI trickery. Look how that turned out with KOTCS.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    BT3366 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    Anyone else think Disney are prolonging the production on this until Ford can no longer play the role?
    The Indy franchise would benefit massively from a full on Disney reboot. Kids don’t want to see a 70 year old hero on the big screen. They need a clean slate.

    Well, in this case the kiddies can hit up Netflix or Hulu or put in the discs of the good ole days. No clean slate, just leave well enough, make that great, alone. It's all about the kids and that's part of the problem sometimes.

    I am somebody who understands the remakes and prequels and all that and sometimes I even enjoy them. But when it comes to Indy, don't mess with it. It's good as is. Do all the graphic novels and whatever else to continue mining the potential with this great character, but do not do a big screen version with Chris Pratt or whatever pretender comes along and bring in the CGI trickery. Look how that turned out with KOTCS.

    It turned out great.
  • Posts: 16,147
    BT3366 wrote: »
    TR007 wrote: »
    Anyone else think Disney are prolonging the production on this until Ford can no longer play the role?
    The Indy franchise would benefit massively from a full on Disney reboot. Kids don’t want to see a 70 year old hero on the big screen. They need a clean slate.

    Well, in this case the kiddies can hit up Netflix or Hulu or put in the discs of the good ole days. No clean slate, just leave well enough, make that great, alone. It's all about the kids and that's part of the problem sometimes.

    I am somebody who understands the remakes and prequels and all that and sometimes I even enjoy them. But when it comes to Indy, don't mess with it. It's good as is. Do all the graphic novels and whatever else to continue mining the potential with this great character, but do not do a big screen version with Chris Pratt or whatever pretender comes along and bring in the CGI trickery. Look how that turned out with KOTCS.

    Well said.

    I'd love to see one more with Ford if just to make up for the last film. After that I think Indy should be retired and left as an iconic cinema legend of the past. However I'm feeling like it's a bit too late. Should have been done 5 years ago.

    May sound sacrilegious, but I watched RAIDERS the other day and think it's really the only film that holds up. I tried to watch TEMPLE OF DOOM and couldn't get past the dinner sequence. Something about that film now seems a bit too silly to me, especially Capshaw's character. The Shortround scenes are nowhere near as funny as they were when I was 12. The bits in the jungle with the elephant don't hold up , and the opening comedic night club action scene wasn't very funny at all.
    Maybe I just wasn't in the mood for that entry.
    When we get closer to summer I'll pop in LAST CRUSADE as I have a feeling I'll enjoy that more. It's got to hold up better than DOOM.
  • Posts: 11,425
    I hope Lucas is not involved. He's gone mad.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Chris Pratt is the heir to the thrown, I feel. He basically already plays indie in the Jurassic movies.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Chris Pratt is the heir to the thrown, I feel. He basically already plays indie in the Jurassic movies.
    +1
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Chris Pratt is the heir to the thrown, I feel. He basically already plays indie in the Jurassic movies.

    Haha that's true
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    Pratt is too goofy. Indiana Jones is dark, or should be like Raiders and Temple... as Spielberg said he would have cast Humphrey Bogart as Indy... Ford is modern Bogart, Pratt isn’t.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I think Ford acted goofy in the original films quite a lot.
  • DoctorNoDoctorNo USA-Maryland
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    This would be the Connery vs Moore debate if Pratt became IJ... as Connery said “Moore went in the comedy door, I went out it”...
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    This would be the Connery vs Moore debate if Pratt became IJ... as Connery said “Moore went in the comedy door, I went out it”...

    And Dalton went in the hard hitting door, the one Moore went out
  • Posts: 16,147
    I think Ford acted goofy in the original films quite a lot.

    Ford especially acted goofy in TEMPLE. Still, I have yet to warm to the idea of Pratt or anyone else taking over from Ford. Something about Pratt's voice sounds high pitched to me.
    However, hypothetically if Disney were to reboot with a younger actor, Pratt might be at the top of my short list. As much as I dislike CGI and tend to walk away unhappy from so many contemporary films, I do think there's an opportunity to get the period settings right.
    Although the initial films were set in the '30's, I never really get a '30's vibe from those films visually. Aside from the cars, RAIDERS feels timeless in look. Harrison's haircut for instance, is generic enough he could be playing any decade, really.
    Films today that are set in specific times tend to have more attention to detail, IMO.
    Some of the recent prohibition era films like LAWLESS, PUBLIC ENEMIES, even THE MUMMY films with Brendan Fraser get the look and styles of the '30's fairly right.
    So a Disney Indy film with Pratt or somebody else might capture the world of the 1930's quite well. That I would love to see.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    DoctorNo wrote: »
    This would be the Connery vs Moore debate if Pratt became IJ... as Connery said “Moore went in the comedy door, I went out it”...

    I agree with this comparison. Pratt is charismatic but he's different from Ford. More overtly jovial and less serious. Even so, Ford has displayed great comedic skills in his films.
  • edited April 2019 Posts: 11,425
    Chris Pine?

    Bradley Cooper?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Chris Pratt is the most overexposed actor working today. I don't see much acting range. Go for an unknown.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    Interesting Points About the more serious aspects, @mattjoes. Now that you mentioned it, I think that is one Point that Always kept me from really getting any Feeling from Crystal Skull.

    I see, @boldfinger. Personally, I feel the film has many good scenes, a good story and a good narrative structure, but it's missing a sense of drama and intensity. One never takes the situation too seriously, the stakes never seem too high. It's also lacking blood, cruelty, grit. The introduction of the film is good (though I don't care for the gophers-- not necessarily a bad idea, but they are overused and a bit too goofy), but it takes a lot of time until Indiana Jones meets Mutt and the plot gets going properly, so the later part of the film, in the Amazon jungle, seems short and rushed, especially with all the characters. They should've cut one or two characters and/or made the film longer to give the story time to develop properly.

    Still, as I said, I think it has many good moments, with the scenes in Peru, with Indiana and Mutt investigating, being terrific.
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    How about Tom Selleck?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Chris Pratt is the heir to the thrown, I feel. He basically already plays indie in the Jurassic movies.

    There’s a line in one of the Jurassic films where Pratt is talking to a young actor and ends the line with the word “kid” where he sounds just like vintage Indy.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I don't care for Pratt. Karl Urban would be a great Indy. Shame he's probably too old for the role now.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Where's Fillion when you need him?
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Something to tide us over: http://theindycast.com/
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there an Uncharted movie being made? Even so, I struggle to see how they will make Indiana Jones work in the 21st century without it emulating Uncharted or Tomb Raider.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    2Wint2Kidd wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there an Uncharted movie being made? Even so, I struggle to see how they will make Indiana Jones work in the 21st century without it emulating Uncharted or Tomb Raider.

    Who knows anymore. It got a new director (Dan Trachtenberg) back in January, but I haven't heard of any progress since. I'm not optimistic or interested if they're still taking the prequel avenue.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    2Wint2Kidd wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there an Uncharted movie being made? Even so, I struggle to see how they will make Indiana Jones work in the 21st century without it emulating Uncharted or Tomb Raider.

    Who knows anymore. It got a new director (Dan Trachtenberg) back in January, but I haven't heard of any progress since. I'm not optimistic or interested if they're still taking the prequel avenue.

    So Tom Holland is Nathan Drake and some blonde kid is macGyver. =))
    what happened to real men?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited May 2019 Posts: 4,592
    Looks like Indy 5 has hit another setback.

    https://screenrant.com/indiana-jones-5-writer-dan-fogelman/

    That's a shame if that plot gets thrown out, that train idea sounds interesting. If this next writer doesn't work, I say reboot with a unknown actor and a new crew.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Unlikely to happen, but I'd really like this next film to have a more serious tone. Temple of Doom might be the scariest film of the series, but it, like the other two sequels, is lighthearted compared to the original. Raiders has a more grown-up, less goofy feel to it (relatively speaking).

    Totally agree. This is why I love all the movies in the tetralogy but Raiders, to me, is many, many miles above the other three.
    Chris Pratt is the heir to the thrown, I feel. He basically already plays indie in the Jurassic movies.

    They feel like totally different characters to me. Also I could never see Chris Pratt play Indiana Jones as a teacher.
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