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Michelle is amazing. She amazes me with her insane stunts.
That's the general opinion, but who's saying that the general opinion always has to count? I personally can't see all the hate for TND and TWINE, while I have some gripes with GE no one else seems to see.
I think that people like TND, is because it's less "pretentious" than the other Brosnan's Bond's, and it's a redoing of YOLT and Spy plots, but with a modern, and innovative, twist.
has gone I've reversed my affection for those first Brosnan efforts so I like TND more than GE but I can't be bothered with the next two that much and even at the time I thought TWINE was ok and nothing more. In fact TWINE is a perfect example of Brosnan's career. Some good moments but also some dreadful ones - also the major problem with Moore's tenure as well. I think by Brosnan's era I had long since immersed myself in 007 to such an extent that I felt they were going backwards to the ridiculousness of Moonraker days. I could see Brosnan doing OP or Moore doing DAD - quite interchangeable. Overall I was thankful Bond was back at all with GE when it came out, but although some people in 87 thought Dalton was a second choice to Brosnan - by 95 for me personally Brosnan was a second choice to Dalton. I think I was always waiting for Brosnan to do a definitive Bond for his era - Connery had GF, Moore TSWLM, Dalton LTK, Craig probably SF (although at present I still love CR) but what is Brosnan's? GE? If so - that's pretty underwhelming. Although I have said before and will again - I don't hate Brosnan's films and I do thank him for keeping the franchise going through the 90s.
I think GE was brilliant and Brosnans best, TND was good (if a bit generic), TWINE was great and DAD was terrible.
Having recently watched GE for the first time in years I found that it didn't wear as well as I thought. I think that people who really like GE do so for two main reasons: the first is that it was our first look at Brosnan so there's sentimental value, the other is that it's a very "classic" and classy Bond film, the last that recalls some of the elements of the older films.
However, there are some elements that a lot of people wouldn't like - the injection of silly humour (Boris), an inconsistent Brosnan (in some scenes he tries to play a hard Bond, in others he seems to be playing Remington Steele), and deviations from formula elements (BMW instead of a new Aston Martin, the comic Jack Wade instead of Felix, strange score by Serra).
While TND is nothing special in my mind it's at least the most consistent of all the Brosnan films, so I think that makes it look better. There's nothing too bad in it so there's less to gripe about. It's not a stellar Bond film but at least it's entertaining.
It doesn't, and that's why I love this site and the opinions throughout it: everyone thinks differently on the matter, and it's not the same drilled-into-your-head opinion I see in other reviews throughout the web.
Same here. I never bothered much with OP but then I came on here and so many liked it, I decided to give it a rewatch. I loved it, it's one of my favourites now.
YOLT was shown in India.....dunno bout the others though.
Brosnan era imo :
GE (good but I find DN/FRWL/TB/OHMSS/FYEO/TLD much better)
TND (McD Bond , even LTK felt more Bond-like)
TWINE (only things I liked were theme song and Qs final....a chore to watch)
DAD (decent 1st half I spose)
I prefer Moore's era even though it sins in the script dept too ;)
I liked Moore a lot mo(o)re even though he was never really a killer.
On another thread Brosnan's Bond has (again) been getting bashed big time. He's too skinny, he's too fat, his accent is too American, he's too pretty, his pain face is distracting, he shoots machine guns too frequently, he has no chemistry with the ladies, he's a pastiche Bond, he's a vampire, he runs funny, he can't fight... my God, how did this colossal LOSER ever get to play Bond FOUR times in multi-million dollar films??? What's more, WHY were they HITS????
Holy moley, you'd think the man was a baby killer or something the way the hate just flows and flows for him. :O
Normally I don't revisit a thread after some time has passed, but WOW, I missed this one. Well done indeed @RC7. It's the perfect description of what EON appeared to be exactly after. This is why, although I have some issues with Brosnan's actual performances from time to time, I refuse to entirely blame him for what happened after 1997. As others have stated, we don't know what kind of input he had or didn't have, so one is forced to judge by the product as the only evidence short of Pierce commenting on it. And he's commented on plenty but this question I've yet to see answered. Can someone point the way if I've missed something?
Some have conjectured that Craig couldn't have done any more with these films as far as the scripts and direction, but I'm not so sure about that. I think he would have declined the role as defined here entirely to be truthful, and if not, he would have done exactly what he did in accepting in 2005, insisted on a certain amount of creative control as far as playing the character and what kind of scripts he was getting. He didn't initially seem as anxious as Brosnan was to be Bond, like Dalton he was looking at the right circumstances in which he would take the role and had a vision of what he wanted besides.
Sorry. :))
I didn't have anything against Brosnan. I thought, primarily, he was a victim of bad scripts and amateur hour at EON (which is still going on today).
Actually when he followed Wai Lin like a puppy and when he wipes Elecktra's tears on tv monitor were embarrassing. Brosnan gets paid to do what he is told, therefore it wasn't his fault.
I was under the impression in Everything or Nothing that he and Rosamund Pike mocked DAD. EON cannot blame anyone but themselves for that. I was always felt that TND and TWINE had their moments but he was dealt a poor hand. Both movies seem to have the pretense of an original Bond, but both fell victim to formulistic Hollywood.
He should not feel jealous of DC.
The level of debate in this thread is very deep.
BBC America was showing TND and they cut out the scene between Bond and the Danish Instructor. What is the deal? [..]
YOLT was always heavily cut for years on ITV here in the UK. TV destroys good Bond films!
For me EON failed in giving Brosnan a toned down movie like RM got his FYEO, especially after delivering 4 BO hits that made 007 once more cinema gold.
Thank you sir! =D>
I'm confident as well that the regard for GoldenEye (and Brosnan as a whole) will increase once more, although presumably not to the heights that it reached during Brosnan's era. I image that Casino Royale and Skyfall especially will have a similar arc to GoldenEye in terms of fan reaction.
Well said, sire. My thoughts exactly. Brosnan was a very popular Bond at the time. Many Bond fans seem to have forgotten this fact with the advent of the Bond films. These things seem to go round in cycles.