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This was me watching SP at the cinema. At least I managed to have fun with DAD.
It's certainly possible, but keep in mind this film also features Bond getting captured and tortured in North Korea for 14 months. Then you have half of the film where he's a rogue agent doing things on his accord, wanting to find out who the MI6 mole was. I think those elements really made a big impression on Brosnan. If you told anyone in 2002 that those things would happen in the next Bond film it would sound not only shocking but ballsy. There hadn't been a Bond film that threw the formula away like that since LTK.
Of course, once you saw the film as a whole it's a very different story.
Back to the matter at hand, those videos were interesting. I found the Tamouri and Berry ones too choppy to watch. But I really enjoyed the Brosnan interview. I think he believed what he was saying. Based on the directors track record it should have been grittier. But I think Lee found shiny new toys to play with and started to do and ask for too much.
An interesting question is who had the best send off as Bond...bypassing George.
Connery DAF or if you go unofficial NASA
Moore AVTAK
Dalton LTK
Brosnan DAD
Craig NTTD
I would argue that only Dalton had a quality film send him off. Course at the time we didn't realize it would be his last film. Time will tell if Daniel has a good send off.
We also didn’t know DAD would be Brosnan last film at the time. He still held the role up to 2004.
As far as last films go, I don’t think either of them are “good” but I enjoy DAF the most out of all of them.
Yes I'm with you there!
This is how I feel about a lot of it too. I've often seen people talk about a steady decline in the Brosnan era and how DAD was a natural bottom to that decline. I don't feel that way at all. TWINE has its problems but tonally, DAD is a serious nosedive (especially after the first third) and 50% of the film doesn't fit with the rest of the Brosnan era at all. This may be a good thing or a bad thing depending on how you see the others, of course, but nevertheless it is a stark contrast to something like AVTAK, which is fairly consistent with the rest of the Moore era films (even if it is of significantly lower quality).
Tonally and visually TND and TWINE go together better.
But the latter three all have a goofy (lack of) transition to silliness in the action scenes. Unlike GE.
But I suppose we'd have to draw a line in the sand where escapism meets pure fantasy. I can easily suspend my disbelief for the first three films, but DAD goes so far into the fantastical that it's hard to see any connections.
Yes, I think DAD is actually nothing like any of the other Bond films. The parody in it, the ridiculous one liners, the bad CGI, the OTT crap, it feels much closer to Austin Powers than a Bond film.
Its closest relation is probably MR, but even that has its serious moments (and with the centrifuge scene it gives us one of the best scenes in the entire franchise). MR has its faults, but they are nowhere near as bad as DAD. Barry's soundtrack, exciting opening PTS, the Barry scored fantasy snake scene opening, it has very nice moments in the film.
DAD has no redeeming features whatsoever.
I wouldn't say "no redeeming features" but the few that it does have (Brosnan's performance, Arnold's music, the PTS, the sword fight etc.) are heavily overshadowed by the bad attributes to the point where the bad stuff is immediately the first thing you think of and linger on. They're just incredibly hard to shake from memory. All of my least favourite Bond films (DAF, MR, AVTAK, and DAD) have this trait in common.
He is a movie star in it though, where it needed one. I agree it wasn't a stunning pure acting performance, but it is a charismatic one and he gives the movie a centre. Someone like Dalton would've made it more convincing in parts I'm sure, but he would have disappeared in the middle of all the big stuff in the way that Brosnan doesn't.
Exactly.
`DAD' and `entertaining'.
Hmmmm, interesting. Words I never would have thought to share the same sentence.
That doesn't help if those elements are done badly. By the same logic I could say any film is enjoyable because it has a collection of images, actors and sounds.
The prisoner exchange
Bond meeting with Raoul before he meets Jinx and after the clinic scenes. I've always liked the chemistry between Bond and Raoul.
The sword fight minus Madonna.
Bond getting reinstated.
Yeah, but the elements can't be bad all at once. Just to mention a few, TMWTGG has Barry's Score & Christopher Lee's Performance, AVTAK has Duran Duran's Song & Barry's Score, LTK has a Stern Timothy Dalton Performance. And amongst other things, DAD has David Arnold's Score.
It's basically video game Bond brought to the big screen.
Some of us think of the EON game as a 5th Brosnan film and that has nanobots and platinum tanks.
Is it the only Bond film where the main cast don't appear in any of the locations the film is set in (apart from the country the studio is in of course!)?
Isn't that... Bond?