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The Living Daylights Appreciation

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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    "Something we're making for the Americans! it's called a Ghetto Blaster!"
    The music heard on the ghetto blaster itself.

  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Blackman/Galore is the lead female character, not Eaton.
    I didn't say the otherwise, did I?

    No, I was responding more to @Mathis1

    I know that. That was my point. As a leading lady Blackman does nothing for me. I would have preferred Eaton as lead!
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    I think Eaton was cast in the right role. As gorgeous as she is I don't get the impression she's an actress of much substance. More cute eye-candy.

    Blackman fit the character of Pussy well.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    That is a great first scene with Eaton in the hotel! Connery plays it so well as he does putting Goldfinger in his place!
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
    edited July 2017 Posts: 1,984
    Blackman's fine as Pussy Galore but her "conversion" to the good guys makes no sense at all. Major weakness of the film, IMO.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    ForYourEyesOnly wrote: »
    Blackman's fine as Pussy Galore but her "conversion" to the good guys makes no sense at all. Major weakness of the film, IMO.
    Call it the James Bond mojo. Don't question it further. :))
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    That is a great first scene with Eaton in the hotel! Connery plays it so well as he does putting Goldfinger in his place!

    Agreed. Fantastic scene wonderfully played by Connery.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Best Bond movie!
  • barryt007barryt007
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    No it’s not...with that comment I take my leave.
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    edited March 2018 Posts: 814
    The more I see TLD the more I like it, and the more I appreciate Dalton. A fine movie indeed, a welcome change after AVTAK and along with LTK, the last great one till CR. GE is very good but not quite great. Just my opinion though.
  • GetafixGetafix
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I don't care for Dalton's initial delivery of "Bond, James Bond," but aside from that, overall that PTS easily makes my Top 10, if not Top 5. Cracking stuff. I've been pining for another PTS with a dressed-down Bond in full military/tactical garb like that, infiltrating some locale/building.

    Wasn’t that what they did with GE?

    Give me the TLD PTS any day tho.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    Thunderball wrote: »
    The more I see TLD the more I like it, and the more I appreciate Dalton. A fine movie indeed, a welcome change after AVTAK and along with LTK, the last great one till CR.

    Totally agree. A vast improvement over AVTAK. TLD and CR are the two best Bond films of the post-Connery/Lazenby/Moore era IMHO.







  • GetafixGetafix
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    PrinceKamalKhan wrote: »
    Thunderball wrote: »
    The more I see TLD the more I like it, and the more I appreciate Dalton. A fine movie indeed, a welcome change after AVTAK and along with LTK, the last great one till CR.

    Totally agree. A vast improvement over AVTAK. TLD and CR are the two best Bond films of the post-Connery/Lazenby/Moore era IMHO.







    Yes I’d probably go along with that.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    Getafix wrote: »
    PrinceKamalKhan wrote: »
    Thunderball wrote: »
    The more I see TLD the more I like it, and the more I appreciate Dalton. A fine movie indeed, a welcome change after AVTAK and along with LTK, the last great one till CR.

    Totally agree. A vast improvement over AVTAK. TLD and CR are the two best Bond films of the post-Connery/Lazenby/Moore era IMHO.







    Yes I’d probably go along with that.

    + LTK I'd definitely go along with that!!
  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
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    Is it correct in saying that Brosnan could have done Remington Steele and Bond. However, Cubby shut the idea down as he didn't want an actor who was already tied to another contract, so he withdrew the offer........

    I was always under the impression that Brosnan was prohibited contractually from doing TLD due to his deal with NBC.

    Also.....what was the timeline. Was Brosnan ever announced officially? I know that Dalton got the role on 5th August 1987 with filming due to begin early October 1987. That's quite a tight deadline.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Brosnan was never announced.
  • BT3366BT3366
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    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    Is it correct in saying that Brosnan could have done Remington Steele and Bond. However, Cubby shut the idea down as he didn't want an actor who was already tied to another contract, so he withdrew the offer........

    I was always under the impression that Brosnan was prohibited contractually from doing TLD due to his deal with NBC.

    Also.....what was the timeline. Was Brosnan ever announced officially? I know that Dalton got the role on 5th August 1987 with filming due to begin early October 1987. That's quite a tight deadline.
    The way I've always understood it was NBC was fine with him doing both, but it was Cubby who said he didn't want another production riding the publicity of the Bond series' coattails.

    There was never an official splashy announcement of Brosnan that I recall. Everything was just assumed that he had the role and indeed he did, but no press conference or launch or anything like that. I think it was all based on the renewal of the Steele contract, which was done at the 11th hour due to the interest in the series that drove the ratings up due to Brosnan being linked with Bond.

    By the way, the dates were in 1986, not 1987. TLD was already released by then.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Imagine the possibilities. We could've had The Brosnan Era (1987-2002). 8 films.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Imagine the possibilities. We could've had The Brosnan Era (1987-2002). 8 films.

    As much as I like Pierce, for no money in the world would I want to miss Tim in TLD and LTK.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Imagine the possibilities. We could've had The Brosnan Era (1987-2002). 8 films.

    You're making me feel ill!!
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Imagine the possibilities. We could've had The Brosnan Era (1987-2002). 8 films.

    You're making me feel ill!!

    When you're done with the sick bucket, could I use it?

    Tim c.2000...

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    Just imagine the Dalton era, 1987-2002. Not that he would have stuck around that long, but now we're talking. :D
  • GetafixGetafix
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    A truly
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Imagine the possibilities. We could've had The Brosnan Era (1987-2002). 8 films.

    Truly a nightmare scenario.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Brosnan was a great Bond. He really was. For the time, in 1987 I don't know if he'd have been able to do the job Tim Dalton did. The Living Daylights has been a favourite of mine since I first saw it. Like Dr.No, From Russia With Love, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Octopussy before it, some Bond films just work for you. TLD is one that works for me. I really love this film, for the simple reason of Timothy Dalton as Bond. He's superb. I remember my first viewing and being wowed by the Fleming style Bond that Dalton played. There was danger, emotion and depth to Bond. I was introduced to the world of 007 by Roger Moore, who will always be my go to Bond. But in all honesty, Dalton took it up a notch. TLD is a great Bond film, with characters who play an integral part of the movie. I love the relationships that occur. Bond and Kara, Bond and Saunders is one of the best Bond /ally/ sacrificial lamb partnerships we've seen. Pushkin is also another great character who works so well in this movie, two Welshman in one of the series greatest scenes, as Bond confronts Pushkin. It's so Fleming and almost breathtaking to watch. Real tension.
    The villains are sometimes referred to as sub par, but I think they all work well as a whole. On their own they might be a little weaker than villains of previous films, but together they're a dastardly bunch. With real menace. Necros is a wonderful henchman.
    TLD has always ranked in the top end of my Bond ranking's, and is likely too for many years to come. Because it is a really good Bond film. I wish Dalton had made more films along this style. Nothing wrong with LTK, but I think Dalton had great potential, without going down the fantasy path that often transpires as the actor progresses with the series.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    Just imagine the Dalton era, 1987-2002. Not that he would have stuck around that long, but now we're talking. :D
    Somehow I can't imagine that Dalton would have stood for TWINE and DAD as they are (at the very least, not the latter). Meaning that with Dalton, both films would probably have been better.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
    edited July 2019 Posts: 2,641
    I really like The Living Daylights, it was much needed after the Moore era. It gave Bond back that edge of the Connery films again and the plot was well thought-out, definitely inspired from the From Russia With Love style cold war spy thriller angle.
    Dalton is great in the role here, I prefer his performance here than in License To Kill, it felt more recognisable as Bond you might say. The wardrobe was much better and Dalton looked the part in this film

    With that being said, I do feel the film starts to lose its momentum when we get to Afghanistan, it just felt like a jarring u turn from what the film had been, the stunt work for the final fight scene was original and great though. Plus I do always get a kick out of hearing Dalton say Mujahideen, for some weird reason it always makes me laugh.

    A great film, Goldeneye always reminds me of this movie, for how fresh and new it feels without feeling unfamiliar. The Q branch scenes are great and similar in both movies as well. Off the top of my head, I can't really tell them apart
  • JamesSpectreJamesSpectre
    edited May 2019 Posts: 164
    I just saw it for the first time two nights ago. I know, a Bond forum member that hasn't seen all the films yet, well I'm probably younger than most here (no offense :D), I was introduced to Bond in the Brosnan era. Also... I have "new" stuff to watch while B25 is being filmed, so one might actually envy me.

    So anyway, I watched it at 2 in the morning and I haven't fallen asleep, so it held me captive. Also, very watchable still, I remember OHMSS felt really cringe to me when I tried to watch it, especially the action scenes with the bad CGI.

    I really liked Dalton and the fact that he didn't try to copy any of the other Bonds. He definitely had his own style. He is very likeable in the role though, very "good guy" at times, kinda like Ethan Hunt? Even though I really enjoyed watching him, for some reason I didn't always see Bond on screen. I can definitely understand what Brosnan brought back to the role.

    Jeroen Krabbé didn't necessarily gave out an amazing performance, but somehow even his character works out in the movie. Maryam d'Abo was the perfect Bond girl for Dalton, great casting call.

    Bottom line, very entertaining movie, felt more like an American production for some reason, but I would definitely watch it again even today... if I didn't have Licence to Kill to see.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    JamesSpectre wrote: »
    So anyway, I watched it at 2 in the morning and I haven't fallen asleep, so it held me captive. Also, very watchable still, I remember OHMSS felt really cringe to me when I tried to watch it, especially the action scenes with the bad CGI.


    The film is from 1969. There was no cgi.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    TLD was the best Bond film since the 60's and only CR has come close since then in my humble opinion.

    GF
    FRWL
    DN
    TLD
    CR
  • GetafixGetafix
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    LeonardPine wrote: »
    TLD was the best Bond film since the 60's and only CR has come close since then in my humble opinion.

    GF
    FRWL
    DN
    TLD
    CR

    A voice of reason at last.

    Those who rank garbage like GE in the same league as films like this have lost their marbles in my opinion.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Getafix wrote: »
    Those who rank garbage like GE in the same league as films like this have lost their marbles in my opinion.

    Say, @Getafix...do you have any idea where I lost my marbles...? I'm not much of a fan of the Brosnan films in general, but I do rate both TLD and GE 8/10. (Not to mention both CR and SF 9/10.) But I do think TLD is great, with only slight deficits. Like the car chase on the ice and "salt corrosion" being silly. But Kara is one of my favourite Bond girls (sorry, @barryt007) and the movie is overall just grand.
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