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Are they going to be able to sustain that through a whole new film?
Well.......I am all in for a return of Sam Mendes doing his style of Bond films over this godforsaken CGI-porn that the "Furious"-franchise nowadays is. Justin Lin? My God....that must be the prime example of how you want a "Die Another Day 2.0" if you hire him for Bond.
Same can't be said for Brewster, which only hints at a return for Paul Walker's character. He had an incredible send-off in his final appearance, they should simply leave it there and not tarnish it.
Didn't Justin Lin direct Fast 5 and Furious 6?
And what's wrong with comparing? Dozens of fans here areposting in the "Kingsman" thread comparisons with Bond. This IS a Bond forums, so even this franchise at times hascertain Bond-ish elements. Or what about comparing it with "Mission: Impossible". It's a buddies film, like "M:I", but then more street. Nothing wrong with comparing :-).
I am curious though what you thought of "Furious 8".....
Wrong. Because I really liked "Furious 5" and "Furious 6". So you are assuming too easily that I 'dislike' the entire franchise. Or are we now petting this franchise so much that we can't be critical about it :-)?
I honestly think Paul Walker is missed. He and Vin Diesel had wonderful Chemistry. They were like the more 'street' version of "Starsky & Hutch" or "The Persuaders". Two very different persons....leading into great storylines.
Now it's just....well.....you saw it with "Furious 8". Then again, sometimes even bad stuff can gross more than 1.2 Billion.
I don't compare it to Bond because I don't see them as remotely similar films, past being members of the action genre. One is a "family"-oriented, OTT series that heavily focuses on vehicular action/warfare, and the other is a spy thriller/action series. Thus, it's much easier to compare Bond to the likes of Mission: Impossible and Kingsman.
But yes, as others said, it's obvious that the series isn't for you (or at least the eighth film). Have you seen previous installments? If the most recent one was too akin to DAD for you, then you just might enjoy the fifth one.
Don't get me wrong, I still heavily enjoyed the eighth installment, but it just became a little too CGI-laden in some aspects (the finale, but mainly the bit with the hacked cars in New York City). Same issue I had with the finale of the seventh one.
Oh I know! I was referring to me suggesting he watch the fifth, but since he already had (and enjoyed it), my work here is done.
I just wanted it to be known I didn't flat-out hate the eighth. Quite enjoyed it, actually.
Exactly. It's what I love about them. Hell, I even forgave a lot of the CGI in the latest Kingsman installment because it was nothing but over the top fun. Didn't take itself too seriously, and didn't try to deliver anything but a fun time.
I know the Transformer films are bad though I know what I am getting and enjoy them, the FF films are similar popcorn films they are not aiming for Oscars, plus over the top crazy CGI can be fun.
I have seen all of them. I binge-watched them last year within a few weeks. I wasn't too keen about the first four. From those I found "2 Fast 2 Furious" the nicest. Great locations around Miami too. "5" then was truly a step up. That one showed it could be much more than just racing. I can't choose which one I like more: "5" or "6".
I like Tyrese Gibson a lot actually. And, I love his love for James Bond hehe.
"Furious 7" was a lovely send-off to be honest. I liked it too. But not as good as "5" and "6". "Furious 8" was pretty nasty CGI-porn to me. That was one to forget.
The thing to me though............I find it pretty much ridiculous how much we are dissecting Bond, criticising to death if I may say so, for its use of CGI. Especially with "Skyfall" and "SPECTRE". But then with "Furious 8" we don't mind it? Come on.
Ooowh, and I do think the "Furious"-franchise has some things in common with Bond. It's also an action franchise, in which the CIA as of late is involved. The CIA is using this rogue band of car racers to save the country from, almost Bond-ish, villains. That was especially the case with the female version of 'Silva' in "Furious 8", which was played in a lame way by Charlize Theron (who actually was terrific in "Atomic Blonde"). She's not very convincing as a bad girl if you ask me.
Then there's the zest for luxury cars. Or a great "Mission: Impossible"-esque party in "Furious 7" in Abu Dhabi. Come on...even "Furious" is copying from Bond. It's just doing it in a more 'street' way, that apparently big audiences love these days (Bond's wandering within a casino by comparison looks more and more....like an intellectual left-ist party).
So here you go. I appreciate the "Furious"-franchise. I liked some of the films. But I'm not a fan of it. I wonder....if there are actually "Furious Fans" :-).
Ooowh :-). Please specify.
And it's not like Bond is the absolute zenith of originality these days. Some franchises steal from Bond, and Bond steals from some franchises. It happens.
Plus, the series incorporated luxury cars wayyyy before that party sequence from Ghost Protocol. But again, just harks back to them utilizing a popular locale after it was made famous by the fourth M:I installment. Hell, look at how often London (and nighttime London, at that) has featured in action fare lately.
Imam honored...truly honored! That Bond is inspiring so many franchises these days! I love it actually. From "Mission: Impossible" to "Kingsman". From "The Man From UNCLE" to "Jason Bourne". From "The Furious"-franchise to "Archer".
The thing however is, that when those younger, newer franchises 'steal' from Bond it's considered OK. Or at times people suddenly see in "Kingsman" or "Furious" the kind of Bond film that they want to see! But when Bond is doing that...getting inspired by let's say "The Dark Knight" than it's considered lacklustre and unoriginal. Especially by some die-hard Bond fans. I find that grotesque really. And unfair too. Bond is 55 years old, so by default it's going to 'suffer' from unoriginality.
Perhaps we sometimes should treat Bond a tiny bit...nicer? And criticisng those non-Bond franchises that get inspired by Bond...a bit more? They need to prove much more than Bond did.
Having said all that.........I think it was wonderful that "Skyfall" was an insane box office hit. But look at "Blade Runner 2049". Most of us loved it no?? A critically acclaimed sci-fi flick. But it flopped. To be honest...I prefer that more than the other way around: A shit film making billions.
Now THIS is an example of CGI I love. CGI to enhance character development, to enhance the plot.....
It's how they recreated Rachael as well. Sadly....it's mostly that. I truly disliked the 'rain of cars' from a New York skycraper.
And even that difference is actually very hard to distinguish at times. What's homage to some, can be seen as 'stealing' by others.
I have not seen the sequel though I felt the first Kingsman film was paying homage to Bond.