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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    morcarvic wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Although I would say that no-one should download those unless you've bought the score from La La Land or 007 Store! :) We've got to support their excellent releases.

    well i for one have and will continue to support further releases though in hindsight through la la land rather than 007 store (a purely fiscal choice on my part).

    Yes, LLL came in a bit cheaper for me too and pretty much arrived the same time.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    Posts: 2,183
    4 days till LLL’s next announcement.
    The possibility of OHMSS 55th anniversary expanded score being one of the next 3 titles got me so excited, I am now beginning to imagine the most improbable scenario where LLL unleashes on us the holy Blofeld Trilogy of YOLT-OHMSS-DAF
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 91
    if they were to do yolt and daf then save for one brief unreleased cue being added to daf i would expect we are only looking at goldfinger like sound remastering and corrected track ordering not bountiful new music as with say mr ohmss or tb.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,376
    I'm really hoping for a 40th and 30th release for A View To A Kill and GoldenEye. Those are my top 2 Bond scores.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited January 12 Posts: 14,104
    Would Eon have rights to composers' work where they started on a film soundtrack, then redirected to other projects or were otherwise replaced? To present that recorded music, in coordination with the composer or their heirs. Not sure if there's an example for that in the film industry.

    Most recently as NTTD, with Dan Romer departing the production and Hans Zimmer taking on the score.

  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 91
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Would Eon have rights to composers' work where they started on a film soundtrack, then redirected to other projects or were otherwise replaced? To present that recorded music, in coordination with the composer or their heirs. Not sure if there's an example for that in the film industry.

    Most recently as NTTD, with Dan Romer departing the production and Hans Zimmer taking on the score.

    well michael j lewis i believe had a promo release of his rejected goldeneye score though i think he only managed about 22 minutes or so of music before like romer he lost the job.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,030
    I think that was a hoax, wasn’t it?
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 91
    hope not i have it
  • Bernie99Bernie99
    Posts: 271
    R1s1ngs0n wrote: »
    I am now beginning to imagine the most improbable scenario where LLL unleashes on us the holy Blofeld Trilogy of YOLT-OHMSS-DAF

    YOLT und DAF are complete, so i prefer first TSWLM, AVTAK, LTK, FYEO, GE, TLD ...
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,030
    No I mean the music is real but it wasn't composed for GoldenEye.

    From this thread on the old CBn:
    https://debrief.commanderbond.net/topic/11323-goldeneye-rejected-score/

    someone on there said they contacted Lewis himself and he said he didn't even compose it, let alone it being from GE.
  • mattjoesmattjoes J.W. Pepper winner J.W. Pepper.
    edited January 12 Posts: 7,081
    I was looking at the same thread. This is an area of Bond music ("Bond music" to be fair) I knew about but never really looked into, despite having posted in that very thread. I probably only listened to part of that album just once in the past.

    Would be mildly interesting to identify the source of the library tracks. The Cat's blog post is lost to time, unfortunately. But it would make sense for someone to have put this fake album together with the purpose of selling it as a rare item at an exorbitant price.

    Some tracks do have a 70s sound to them.
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 91
    well they did a pretty good job of copying his style if he said he didnt do it
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    Posts: 81
    I wonder if the delayed releases announced tomorrow by LaLa Land may include 1, 2 or 3 Craig Soundtracks? With no big anniversaries, it would explain why they could be deferred to January but Roger’s two remained December releases?
  • Bernie99Bernie99
    Posts: 271
    Beakerweb5576 wrote: »
    I wonder if the delayed releases announced tomorrow by LaLa Land may include 1, 2 or 3 Craig Soundtracks?

    I think the Craig-Soundtracks (of the bond scores) are at the end of the priority list by Lala Land

  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    edited January 14 Posts: 81
    I agree but there are still 2 Daltons, 5 Connerys, 3 Moores, 1 Brosnan, 1 Lazenby and 4 Craigs to release (soundtrack-wise). It may be the material was ready and available for the Craig movies
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    Posts: 81
    It’s Licence to Kill that’s being released!!!!!
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 91
    if they should release ohmss and ltk that would equate to an unprecedented 5 bonds in as many months with the prospect of 3 more tb avtak and ge in another 11 months at this rate if continued (and if anniversaries were ignored) we'll have all save for those whose film release occured post 2005 due to some american musicians legallity incurring high prohibitive costs i believe for la la land in a couple of years. oh and of course were unlikely to ever see dn and frwl.
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 91
    Beakerweb5576 wrote: »
    It’s Licence to Kill that’s being released!!!!!

    yep just seen and ordered i guess we wait till 2029 now for ohmss.
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    Posts: 81
    Doubt it - the Bonds make money. The rest will have been released before 2029
  • kywikkywik
    edited January 16 Posts: 1
    Beakerweb5576 wrote: »
    Amazing! Now if you could edit the circus music with 009 being knifed and the ambassador music before 009 dies for Octopussy, you would achieve God status!

    I hope you'll enjoy this. :-)
    https://mega.nz/file/9S1ikDyJ#BNnVYnBILqzF0wVh6uf7g98sdd1Jk8RfEwvv4ltvEoA
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    Posts: 81
    Bless your heart!
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    edited January 18 Posts: 81
    I’ve added the circus music as 009 escapes from the twins to him getting stabbed. How do I add this to mega.nz?
  • Bond_ScoresBond_Scores UK
    edited February 5 Posts: 109
    For those of you after the cue when Nick Nack attacks Bond at the end of TMWTGG:

    https://mega.nz/file/qY8WwbhS#rRyuv7LezO5K9j1LSb6vKkGNbgcUhJKvdcG2BRf-oDI

    This is on the LLLR release, but not as you hear it in the film. It's part of the track 'You Must Be Good/In The Boot/Car Keys'. I've looped it so that it resembles the cue heard in the film and I've added some subtle reverb so that it's more pleasing to the ear!
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 91
    Bond_Scores wrote: »
    For those of you after the cue when Nick Nack attacks Bond at the end of TMWTGG:

    https://mega.nz/file/qY8WwbhS#rRyuv7LezO5K9j1LSb6vKkGNbgcUhJKvdcG2BRf-oDI

    This is on the LLLR release, but not as you hear it in the film. It's part of the track 'You Must Be Good/In The Boot/Car Keys'. Evidently John Barry intended to use it when Nick Nack is walking back to the car. This scene is unscored and it's interesting that it's repurposed for the end of the film. I've looped it so that it resembles the cue heard in the film and I've added some subtle reverb so that it's more pleasing to the ear!

    allowing for a 3 second silence to end the cue,0.58 gives us the cue as heard in film and in your correct edit ,but i have to ask am i mistaken in the belief when crossed referenced with nic raine's cover on "bond back in action 2" album which i think comes in around 0.44,45 seconds duration that the track edit to form "nick nack" may be slightly sped up by a tiny percentage, it's gnawing away in my head because in the "in the boot"scene he's merely walking reasonably quick with goodnight following ,but in the final encounter with bond they're kinda breaking into a quicker runaround the junk.
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    Posts: 81
    Licence To Kill has arrived from 007Store - anyone know where additional tracks all fit in score?
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    Posts: 81
    I don’t want to spoil it but there’s a cracking little motif when Uncle Q appears…
  • Beakerweb5576Beakerweb5576
    edited February 2 Posts: 81
    It’s been a lovely surprise to see these unused cues in the expanded scores - from Octopussy to Moonraker and now Licence To Kill. I wonder what Barry’s two final scores - A View To A Kill and The Living Daylights - will yield?
  • Bond_ScoresBond_Scores UK
    Posts: 109
    Here's my edit of the Wagner wedding march into the Main Title of Licence To Kill:

    https://mega.nz/file/rB1EgYxb#ZBby2sw9fnNTjoEon-PZxKZ5kJe-9TsLxPOl9D-l3nc

    I added some reverb to the organ as it sounded really hollow on the LLLR release. I also edited the title track so it matches what you hear in the film.
  • Bond_ScoresBond_Scores UK
    Posts: 109
    morcarvic wrote: »
    Bond_Scores wrote: »
    For those of you after the cue when Nick Nack attacks Bond at the end of TMWTGG:

    https://mega.nz/file/qY8WwbhS#rRyuv7LezO5K9j1LSb6vKkGNbgcUhJKvdcG2BRf-oDI

    This is on the LLLR release, but not as you hear it in the film. It's part of the track 'You Must Be Good/In The Boot/Car Keys'. Evidently John Barry intended to use it when Nick Nack is walking back to the car. This scene is unscored and it's interesting that it's repurposed for the end of the film. I've looped it so that it resembles the cue heard in the film and I've added some subtle reverb so that it's more pleasing to the ear!

    allowing for a 3 second silence to end the cue,0.58 gives us the cue as heard in film and in your correct edit ,but i have to ask am i mistaken in the belief when crossed referenced with nic raine's cover on "bond back in action 2" album which i think comes in around 0.44,45 seconds duration that the track edit to form "nick nack" may be slightly sped up by a tiny percentage, it's gnawing away in my head because in the "in the boot"scene he's merely walking reasonably quick with goodnight following ,but in the final encounter with bond they're kinda breaking into a quicker runaround the junk.

    I got this wrong - 'In The Boot' *does* score Nick Nack's walk from the kickboxing fight to the car! That cue is re-purposed for the fight at the end of the film. In terms of Nic Raine's covers, quite a a few of his arrangements are faster in tempo than the film versions ('Freefall' from Moonraker and 'Necros Attacks' from The Living Daylights spring to mind), so it's conceivable that's why there's a discrepancy in the durations.
  • Bernie99Bernie99
    Posts: 271
    Bond_Scores wrote: »
    Here's my edit of the Wagner wedding march into the Main Title of Licence To Kill:

    https://mega.nz/file/rB1EgYxb#ZBby2sw9fnNTjoEon-PZxKZ5kJe-9TsLxPOl9D-l3nc

    I added some reverb to the organ as it sounded really hollow on the LLLR release. I also edited the title track so it matches what you hear in the film.

    Wow big thank you, can you combine "Ocean Exotica Break-In" & "You Earned It" as one track. Also "Tanker Downhill & "Truck Chase"? That would be awesome
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