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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    ToTheRight wrote: »

    I think he looks great in NSNA. Instead of unsuccessfully trying to make him look 35, he wears a graying/thinning hairpiece and plays Bond in his '50's. His clothes are appropriate for his age and Bond, IMO.

    All his clothes?
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    ToTheRight wrote: »

    I think he looks great in NSNA. Instead of unsuccessfully trying to make him look 35, he wears a graying/thinning hairpiece and plays Bond in his '50's. His clothes are appropriate for his age and Bond, IMO.

    All his clothes?

    Not counting the dungarees, since those really belong to Lady in the Bahamas.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »

    I think he looks great in NSNA. Instead of unsuccessfully trying to make him look 35, he wears a graying/thinning hairpiece and plays Bond in his '50's. His clothes are appropriate for his age and Bond, IMO.

    All his clothes?

    Not counting the dungarees, since those really belong to Lady in the Bahamas.

    Good, I was a bit worried about you.
  • Posts: 16,154
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »

    I think he looks great in NSNA. Instead of unsuccessfully trying to make him look 35, he wears a graying/thinning hairpiece and plays Bond in his '50's. His clothes are appropriate for his age and Bond, IMO.

    All his clothes?

    Not counting the dungarees, since those really belong to Lady in the Bahamas.

    Good, I was a bit worried about you.

    Lol. One can argue, though that his attire in NSNA is a bit on the dull side, but I think that works beautifully considering he is playing an older version of Bond. He's not particularly flashy or trying to impress. His action attire suits him. I love the jacket he wears when escaping from Palmyra. He looks rugged and tough on that horse.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited November 2017 Posts: 4,423
    Continuing on with Skyfall

    Doesn’t this movie look lovely? Usually my watching of Skyfall, rests on whether I can swallow Silva’s masterplan. (Who puts the isolation room next to a hatch that leads straight into the Tube? Let’s blame Tanner.)

    This time however, I put aside logic for the sheer story telling mystique. Skyfall is spilt into two halves – the gripping first half, filled with Bond’s struggle to resurrect himself, and the latter half, is more of an exposition piece, what with Bond’s back story and Silva’s plan. Which is entertaining, but not gripping.

    Linking Skyfall with TWINE, which I forgot to put in my TWINE write up, is that M uses Elektra as bait, whilst in Skyfall she herself is used as bait.

    Finally, I must mention the confab between ol’ Jimbo and the stunning Severine.

    Next I’ll be moving on to Goldfinger, as per @Birdleson’s suggestion – "the obvious connection is GOLDFINGER. Third for the actor, unrelated villain (at the time, thankfully). The first of it's run to really explode at the box office", Goldfinger captured the public spirit, in the same vein as Skyfall.


    Royale’s Ranking

    1. Skyfall
    2. The World Is Not Enough

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    Next year I think I will attempt my first backwards Bondathon, to make it different but easy. Then I’ll do a classic one leading up to Bond 25 in 2019.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    You should @FoxRox – it really lends perceptive ;)

    Right, on to Goldfinger.

    The quintessential Bond film. But not necessarily the best. Sean Connery is magnificent; the contributions of Adam and Barry are truly outstanding and the by play between Bond and Goldfinger is always a delight.

    Like Skyfall and Silva’s clairvoyance, my viewings of GF tend to be centred around how distracting I find the “Hood’s Convention” to be. Usually I defend the scene as Goldfinger being a showman, revelling in his ego. If I’m going to slate SF for inconsistencies of plot, then I guess I must apply the whole anal retentive thing across the entire franchise. I could’ve forgiven the scene, if the actual hoods were given, well, not cringe inducing dialogue. I’m glad they were gassed.

    Thus...


    Royale’s Ranking

    1. Skyfall
    2. Goldfinger
    3. The World Is Not Enough

    I’ll be following GF with Diamonds Are Forever, as per Brady’s suggestion -
    ...the feeling and essence of GF following OHMSS. The proof is all there to see, from the choice to get Connery back as Bond (with a historically hefty price tag) to Guy Hamilton filling out the directing gig and Shirley Bassey... lm ends with action focused on explosions and flames that leave Bond and the villain scorched and bloody.


  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    That's my boy! I was uneasy about having three Bond films in all row starring Connery. (GF, DAF, FRWL)

    My itinerary ;)

    TWINE
    SF
    GF
    DAF
    DAD
    ?
  • Posts: 16,154
    royale65 wrote: »
    You should @FoxRox – it really lends perceptive ;)

    Right, on to Goldfinger.

    The quintessential Bond film. But not necessarily the best. Sean Connery is magnificent; the contributions of Adam and Barry are truly outstanding and the by play between Bond and Goldfinger is always a delight.

    Like Skyfall and Silva’s clairvoyance, my viewings of GF tend to be centred around how distracting I find the “Hood’s Convention” to be. Usually I defend the scene as Goldfinger being a showman, revelling in his ego. If I’m going to slate SF for inconsistencies of plot, then I guess I must apply the whole anal retentive thing across the entire franchise. I could’ve forgiven the scene, if the actual hoods were given, well, not cringe inducing dialogue. I’m glad they were gassed.

    Thus...


    Royale’s Ranking

    1. Skyfall
    2. Goldfinger
    3. The World Is Not Enough

    I’ll be following GF with Diamonds Are Forever, as per Brady’s suggestion -
    ...the feeling and essence of GF following OHMSS. The proof is all there to see, from the choice to get Connery back as Bond (with a historically hefty price tag) to Guy Hamilton filling out the directing gig and Shirley Bassey... lm ends with action focused on explosions and flames that leave Bond and the villain scorched and bloody.


    I love GF. I don't mind the hood's convention bit. I always felt it was bit of an homage to the 30's Warner Bros. gangster era. Sean is so effortlessly cool in GF, and with a great villain in Gert Frobe, as well as Honor Blackman, GF remains my number 1.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2017 Posts: 23,883
    NSNA

    This is a Bond film, like DAF, which continues to impress me with each viewing. When I first saw it years ago I thought it was rubbish.....a mere imposter. However as the years have passed I've grown to appreciate it more, and tonight I actually really felt it to be better than quite a number of EON's 24 offerings.

    For one thing it has Sean Connery, and that means a lot. Sure he's no longer in his prime, but he's engaged, witty, suave, stylish and tough as ever here. No other Bond moves or wears a suit like him, and he proves it here even in his 50s. The supporting cast is excellent too, most notably Klaus Maria Brandauer as the insecure Largo & Barbara Carrera as the somewhat off kilter henchwoman Fatima Blush, a precursor to Onatopp. There's also the late Bernie Casey as arguably the best (or at least one of the best) Felix & Max von Sydow as a quite decent Blofeld (certainly a better one in my view than the latest iteration from the official series). Then there's a pre-Oscar Kim Basinger. What can I say about her? Well, she certainly looks good (very good actually), but that's about it. I'm perhaps one of the few who doesn't mind Rowan Atkinson's turn as the dimwitted Nigel Small-Fawcett.

    I actually enjoy the plot (yes, I realize it's TB redux, but there are enough differences to make it interesting), love the action (particularly the bike chase, shark encounter and underwater finale), laughed at the humour and wit (especially when Bond plays Fatima just before killing her) and really like Douglas Slocombe's cinematography. I noticed today that his wide angle distant style is more reminiscent of Hamilton and Gilbert's approach, and quite different to Glen's more close quarters 'in your face' style from the 80's. I prefer this style. It has more 'scale' and gives the film a 'larger than life' feel. Sure, the score isn't great, but it's not all bad. There are some decent motifs, particularly during the theft of the missiles, the bike chase, the horse chase and the finale. The title song is a bit weak too, but at least composer Legrand weaves it into the score. It's certainly as good as OP's 'All Time High' imho. Additionally, even though this score and title song aren't anything to write home about, it's not like the official series has been giving us anything better lately either. The next time I do my rankings I'll be sure to include NSNA, and I think I'll place it reasonably well after this viewing.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    I like NSNA and agree with plenty of that review as well, but I just feel compelled to say that in terms of music, the official series has been giving much better lately. Michel Legrand's score definitely brings the film down; at times it sounds like it belongs in a 70's cop TV show. It doesn't have enough of the elegance of the music of the EON films, Newman most certainly included.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2017 Posts: 23,883
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I like NSNA and agree with plenty of that review as well, but I just feel compelled to say that in terms of music, the official series has been giving much better lately. Michel Legrand's score definitely brings the film down; at times it sounds like it belongs in a 70's cop TV show. It doesn't have enough of the elegance of the music of the EON films, Newman most certainly included.
    Yes, perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on the official series regarding music, and you're right that certain parts of NSNA sound like they don't belong in a Bond film. The point I was trying to get across is that (particularly after the last entry) EON aren't beneath dishing up substandard title songs and somewhat mediocre scores either, and I feel NSNA takes just a little too much heat for that. There are parts of SP that certainly sound like elevator music rather than classic Bond melody as well.

    Sure, in Barry's day there was no comparison, and in some ways his score is what elevated OP above NSNA. However, Barry is long gone. At the very least, I like the fact that Legrand incorporated Lani Hall's song into his score in the more mellow moments, which is something we hardly see these days.

    NSNA was a very successful Bond film (far more so than many of the official entries) at the box office, and having really enjoyed it yesterday, I'm now an advocate for it.
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    You Only Live Twice. This film has re-grown on me, so to speak. I still have to put it last of the golden age, but after a couple years of sinking, I have grown a bit fonder of this film again. Watched in memory of Karin Dor. Very good Bond adventure indeed, despite the shortcomings I find in it.
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    YOLT, of course, as a way to pay tribute to Karin Dor. Still holds up pretty well, all things considered.
  • Posts: 16,154
    bondjames wrote: »
    NSNA

    This is a Bond film, like DAF, which continues to impress me with each viewing. When I first saw it years ago I thought it was rubbish.....a mere imposter. However as the years have passed I've grown to appreciate it more, and tonight I actually really felt it to be better than quite a number of EON's 24 offerings.

    For one thing it has Sean Connery, and that means a lot. Sure he's no longer in his prime, but he's engaged, witty, suave, stylish and tough as ever here. No other Bond moves or wears a suit like him, and he proves it here even in his 50s. The supporting cast is excellent too, most notably Klaus Maria Brandauer as the insecure Largo & Barbara Carrera as the somewhat off kilter henchwoman Fatima Blush, a precursor to Onatopp. There's also the late Bernie Casey as arguably the best (or at least one of the best) Felix & Max von Sydow as a quite decent Blofeld (certainly a better one in my view than the latest iteration from the official series). Then there's a pre-Oscar Kim Basinger. What can I say about her? Well, she certainly looks good (very good actually), but that's about it. I'm perhaps one of the few who doesn't mind Rowan Atkinson's turn as the dimwitted Nigel Small-Fawcett.

    I actually enjoy the plot (yes, I realize it's TB redux, but there are enough differences to make it interesting), love the action (particularly the bike chase, shark encounter and underwater finale), laughed at the humour and wit (especially when Bond plays Fatima just before killing her) and really like Douglas Slocombe's cinematography. I noticed today that his wide angle distant style is more reminiscent of Hamilton and Gilbert's approach, and quite different to Glen's more close quarters 'in your face' style from the 80's. I prefer this style. It has more 'scale' and gives the film a 'larger than life' feel. Sure, the score isn't great, but it's not all bad. There are some decent motifs, particularly during the theft of the missiles, the bike chase, the horse chase and the finale. The title song is a bit weak too, but at least composer Legrand weaves it into the score. It's certainly as good as OP's 'All Time High' imho. Additionally, even though this score and title song aren't anything to write home about, it's not like the official series has been giving us anything better lately either. The next time I do my rankings I'll be sure to include NSNA, and I think I'll place it reasonably well after this viewing.

    Great review on NSNA, a fond favorite of mine. I think some of the music works fine. Letting the music come in at the end of the bike chase for example.
    Walking a very fine line on what in this film could be done legally, I like that it replaces some of the traditional Bondian elements with alternatives. Instead of the gunbarrel circle opening onto the PTS, we get the row of 007 logos opening on what fills in for a PTS. They couldn't do a Maurice Binder title sequence with a theme song, so it plays over the early part of the action. That's very arguable on whether or not that works. Many loathe the song, but I think it is no better or worse than many of the other easy listening Bond themes of that era. I think the opening chords that accompany that first shot of the 007 logos work fine. I'd have a harder time picturing the Phyllis Hyman tune playing over that opening sequence honestly.
    Many parallels with the later Eon era: Bond dealing with a new M who doesn't really think he or the Double-O Section are necessary. M feels Bond should stay out of the field as does Mallory in SF. In fact this new M has a completely different office as Judi Dench had in GE. Q branch being headquartered in what looks like an auto repair garage kind of reminds me of Ben's low key Q branch in SP.
    This alternate universe Bond film gives Bond a work environment that Eon would later similarly make canon in the official series. I wouldn't be surprised if in B25 we learn Bond has been "teaching instead of doing" post SP.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Never seen NSNA in it's entirety. Seen bits and pieces but never the whole thing. Love the motorcycle chase though
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited November 2017 Posts: 23,883
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    NSNA

    This is a Bond film, like DAF, which continues to impress me with each viewing. When I first saw it years ago I thought it was rubbish.....a mere imposter. However as the years have passed I've grown to appreciate it more, and tonight I actually really felt it to be better than quite a number of EON's 24 offerings.

    For one thing it has Sean Connery, and that means a lot. Sure he's no longer in his prime, but he's engaged, witty, suave, stylish and tough as ever here. No other Bond moves or wears a suit like him, and he proves it here even in his 50s. The supporting cast is excellent too, most notably Klaus Maria Brandauer as the insecure Largo & Barbara Carrera as the somewhat off kilter henchwoman Fatima Blush, a precursor to Onatopp. There's also the late Bernie Casey as arguably the best (or at least one of the best) Felix & Max von Sydow as a quite decent Blofeld (certainly a better one in my view than the latest iteration from the official series). Then there's a pre-Oscar Kim Basinger. What can I say about her? Well, she certainly looks good (very good actually), but that's about it. I'm perhaps one of the few who doesn't mind Rowan Atkinson's turn as the dimwitted Nigel Small-Fawcett.

    I actually enjoy the plot (yes, I realize it's TB redux, but there are enough differences to make it interesting), love the action (particularly the bike chase, shark encounter and underwater finale), laughed at the humour and wit (especially when Bond plays Fatima just before killing her) and really like Douglas Slocombe's cinematography. I noticed today that his wide angle distant style is more reminiscent of Hamilton and Gilbert's approach, and quite different to Glen's more close quarters 'in your face' style from the 80's. I prefer this style. It has more 'scale' and gives the film a 'larger than life' feel. Sure, the score isn't great, but it's not all bad. There are some decent motifs, particularly during the theft of the missiles, the bike chase, the horse chase and the finale. The title song is a bit weak too, but at least composer Legrand weaves it into the score. It's certainly as good as OP's 'All Time High' imho. Additionally, even though this score and title song aren't anything to write home about, it's not like the official series has been giving us anything better lately either. The next time I do my rankings I'll be sure to include NSNA, and I think I'll place it reasonably well after this viewing.

    Great review on NSNA, a fond favorite of mine. I think some of the music works fine. Letting the music come in at the end of the bike chase for example.
    Walking a very fine line on what in this film could be done legally, I like that it replaces some of the traditional Bondian elements with alternatives. Instead of the gunbarrel circle opening onto the PTS, we get the row of 007 logos opening on what fills in for a PTS. They couldn't do a Maurice Binder title sequence with a theme song, so it plays over the early part of the action. That's very arguable on whether or not that works. Many loathe the song, but I think it is no better or worse than many of the other easy listening Bond themes of that era. I think the opening chords that accompany that first shot of the 007 logos work fine. I'd have a harder time picturing the Phyllis Hyman tune playing over that opening sequence honestly.
    Many parallels with the later Eon era: Bond dealing with a new M who doesn't really think he or the Double-O Section are necessary. M feels Bond should stay out of the field as does Mallory in SF. In fact this new M has a completely different office as Judi Dench had in GE. Q branch being headquartered in what looks like an auto repair garage kind of reminds me of Ben's low key Q branch in SP.
    This alternate universe Bond film gives Bond a work environment that Eon would later similarly make canon in the official series. I wouldn't be surprised if in B25 we learn Bond has been "teaching instead of doing" post SP.
    @ToTheRight. I completely agree that many elements from NSNA have found their way into the subsequent EON releases. In many ways, it was a film ahead of its time. I love the way Kershner uses little tics to showcase Fatima's eccentricities, most notably in the way she sashays up and down the stairs in a few instances, twirling her scarf as she turns the corner.

    The intro scene at the beach is clumsily homaged in DAD.
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    Just put on TSWLM - a long-time favorite of mine. I've watched it to death but it never gets boring.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Never Say Never Again

    I've been a Bond fan since 1999 and this was the first time I've ever watched it from start to finish. To be honest, I definitely enjoyed most of it. I'll have to buy a hard copy of it to complete the collection. Connery looks and acts much better than he did in YOLT and DAF. Yes, he is much older but plays it off well. My only complaint is that it is a horrible remake of Thunderball. When I was able to just watch it as a Bond film and not a remake then it was enjoyable. I'd give it a 7 of 10
  • RemingtonRemington I'll do anything for a woman with a knife.
    Posts: 1,534
    Never Say Never Again

    I've been a Bond fan since 1999 and this was the first time I've ever watched it from start to finish. To be honest, I definitely enjoyed most of it. I'll have to buy a hard copy of it to complete the collection. Connery looks and acts much better than he did in YOLT and DAF. Yes, he is much older but plays it off well. My only complaint is that it is a horrible remake of Thunderball. When I was able to just watch it as a Bond film and not a remake then it was enjoyable. I'd give it a 7 of 10

    It's not a horrible movie. I enjoy the scenes in Nassau and France. The rest not so much.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Never Say Never Again

    I've been a Bond fan since 1999 and this was the first time I've ever watched it from start to finish. To be honest, I definitely enjoyed most of it. I'll have to buy a hard copy of it to complete the collection. Connery looks and acts much better than he did in YOLT and DAF. Yes, he is much older but plays it off well. My only complaint is that it is a horrible remake of Thunderball. When I was able to just watch it as a Bond film and not a remake then it was enjoyable. I'd give it a 7 of 10
    It's a good point you make about viewing it as a Bond film vs. a TB remake. That's one of the elements which impacted my enjoyment of it in the past too, especially because TB is my 2nd favourite Bond film. Once I was able to overcome the subconscious need to constantly compare the two I started to have a far better time with it.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited November 2017 Posts: 14,568
    I think NSNA being McClory's project is the biggest factor why many criticize it, more so than it being an inferior remake of TB. But if you can look past these things - or in my case, not even let it bother you, period - it can be quite a good watch. It does seem like a telemovie though, but great Sunday night viewing nonetheless.
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    In some ways I find the pacing of NSNA faster than TB, particularly the underwater scenes. I've watched them back to back on occasion, but to me it is more fun to view NSNA as it's own alternate universe entity rather than a remake of TB.
    I do like that it doesn't try to replicate TB, and has it's own tone.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    The lack of a memorable score really hurt NSNA. I know many have seen this but it shows the value of music.

  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    That is some training exercise.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,978
    DAD
    Watched it on ITV last night. "Time heals most wounds", would sum up my feelings toward Bond#20. I don't hate the film anywhere near what I used to. Ok, there are things like the title track (techno, in Bond, what were they thinking), "yo mama", the ice surfing, but there is far more in the film that I like, than I don't. At times, I was.... actually having a blast watching DAD. I couldn't help but grin during the "thanks for the kiss of life" line.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited November 2017 Posts: 40,968
    NSNA does have a weak soundtrack/theme song, something TB excelled in. Though it also has a lot of highlights and is always a joy for me to watch, particularly the PTS, the Shrublands fight, and I quite like the finale.

    Shame about that horse, though.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,583
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    NSNA does have a weak soundtrack/theme song, something TB excelled in. Though it also has a lot of highlights and is always a joy for me to watch, particularly the PTS, the Shrublands fight, and I quite like the finale.

    Shame about that horse, though.

    Ehhh he was fine.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited November 2017 Posts: 40,968
    Birdleson wrote: »
    He was. Insane how the U.K. cut doesn't show the horse hitting the water.

    I remember you figuring that out when we initially watched it and I made a comment about the horse, and you didn't see it. It's just that final shot of the horse actually connecting with the water that they cut, yeah, and nothing before?

    Curious why the U.K. cut omits that, but then the U.K. cut for CR contains a lot more blood/added fight shots.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    The long shot of the jump was done with stopmotion models.
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