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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Let's not forget that all the Villains in LALD are also among the best in the series.

    I love LALD!
    I've always thought LALD had the best ensemble of villains, although FRWL & CR come very close. Hope we get something similar for B25.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    QBranch wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Let's not forget that all the Villains in LALD are also among the best in the series.

    I love LALD!
    I've always thought LALD had the best ensemble of villains, although FRWL & CR come very close. Hope we get something similar for B25.

    Don't forget Octopussy! And personally I'd add Goldeneye too
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Of course! DN was up there too.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Of course! DN was up there too.

    Don't forget LTK. Great cast of ne'er-do-wells.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Yeah, Sanchez, Dario and Krest were great, but the rest were slightly under par. However, if we're counting Professor Joe as a henchman, then... bless your heart!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Yeah, Sanchez, Dario and Krest were great, but the rest were slightly under par. However, if we're counting Professor Joe as a henchman, then... bless your heart!

    I find them all to be good - even Truman-Lodge and Perez. There's just something about the cast of villains in LTK.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    As far as a group of realistic villains go, do you think those in LTK are used better than in QOS? Remember, we had Greene, Medrano, Carlos (Bolivian Police chief) and Yusef as the stand outs here. I might go with LTK.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    QBranch wrote: »
    As far as a group of realistic villains go, do you think those in LTK are used better than in QOS? Remember, we had Greene, Medrano, Carlos (Bolivian Police chief) and Yusef as the stand outs here. I might go with LTK.

    I would go for LTK. They just seemed like lost boys who got caught up in Sanchez's hurricane.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    The World Is Not Enough

    You know, I tried to like this. Tried to find any reason to not rank this at the bottom. And I did. Spectre.

    The upside is the PTS. I also like the interactions between Bond and Zukovsky. But everything else is just...plain bad. Daytime soap opera stuff ("knew where to hurt me". "Haven't you heard? So is she!"...nyeh nyeh), the action is sub-par, script awful, terrible use of locations, Arnold's worst score (apart from the excellent "007 Your Time is Up in the PTS). The only reason Spectre is lower because it's even more of a mess, and frustratingly bad.

    1. The Man with the Golden Gun
    2. Thunderball

    3. You Only Live Twice

    4. Skyfall
    5. Quantum of Solace
    6. The World Is Not Enough
    7. Spectre

    Next up is A View to a Kill. I expect this to fit around the top 2 at this point in the marathon. It might also be apparent I'm doing this in roughly reverse tier order. Things become more enjoyable at this point, and even more so after the next two films.
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    Watched the Dalton films again last weekend. Had a great time watching them, and as with later viewings, it was LTK that felt the most enjoyable of the two. The latter half of TLD is too much of a drag compared to the first half. They both miss out of the top ten though, which is crowded with the Moore and Connery era films as of now (and is unlikely to change).

    Still surprised to see DAF safely inside top ten, and watching it again a couple of weeks ago didn't change my (current) opinion of the film. 2019 ranking so far:

    1. Thunderball
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    3. From Russia with Love
    4. For Your Eyes Only
    5. The Spy Who Loved Me
    6. Goldfinger
    7. Octopussy
    8. Live and Let Die/Diamonds Are Forever
    10. Dr. No
    11. The Man with the Golden Gun
    12. Licence to Kill
    13. The Living Daylights
    14. A View to a Kill
    15. You Only Live Twice
    16. Moonraker
    17. Casino Royale (1967)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Nothing going on today, so I popped in A VIEW TO A KILL.

    When I saw this in the theatre, it felt so tired and stale. Moore and Maxwell looking way past it felt like it reflected on the franchise in general. It just seemed so bland and generic compared to what came before.

    This view was better. The pre title and main title sequences are both among the weaker in the series, but I do like the song. I remember that both Duran Duran and Christopher Walken were a big deal at the time, much like Adele and Javier Bardem later.

    The first half is actually great, then after the scene in Stacy s house the film takes a dive until the terrific finale on the blimp and the Golden Gate Bridge. Zorin is probably the most insane villain of them all. Him, Glaub and Scarpine make a triumvirate of pure evil. May Day seems to be the prototype for Necros. I noticed that Zorin asks Scarpine to "Go out and get him! GO!" just like Kamal Khan told Gobinda in the previous film, but unlike Khan, Max decides to go out and get Bond himself.

    The score isn t as bad as I remembered. It is mostly brilliant, but there are some bits that I find unbearable.


    This one is nice, though.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    The score isn t as bad as I remembered. It is mostly brilliant, but there are some bits that I find unbearable.

    I'm trying to put my finger on it, because no Barry score is bad. 'He's Dangerous' is particularly good. I noticed this on last viewing too but the score seems tired like the rest of the movie. It's apparent with TLD too but at least he had three songs to work with
  • edited March 2019 Posts: 17,814
    Birdleson wrote: »
    I really love the AVTAK score.

    Me to. It's one of my favourites.
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    I really love the AVTAK score.

    Me to. It's one of my favourites.

    Me too
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    AVTAK score is top-notch. Man I love that movie.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    I find it lacks the…richness of say YOLT or MR but to be fair those movies called for a grand score
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    There are some bits that I find annoying. A musical motif that turns up only a few times, mainly in Stacy s house and on the Golden Gate plus once or twice earlier. It just stuck in my mind before. I did forget to mention Patrick Macnee, every scene he is in is a delight.

    Anyway, the Dalton films up next.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    edited March 2019 Posts: 2,252
    I'm having a lot of enjoyable viewings this time around, including *gasp* Die Another Day. If you switch your brain off, most of it is quite enjoyable. Interesting how everyone plays it so straight (even Stephens with what he was given, and Brosnan is fantastic. In Goldeneye he is directed well but not totally in the role, TND confident, TWINE whiny, and DAD seasoned). The action is inventive and varied, plot has an interesting premise if you don't pick at it, Arnold delivers a reasonable but mostly unmemorable score (it's the only one with barely any theme song inspiration). One thing Die Another Day isn't is boring and in light of recent Bond movies, it's almost a relief to see some good action and light-heartedness even if they went too far...

    Live and Let Die is a strange movie, but a brilliant cast of villains, unique stunts, colourful character (voodoo themes), and a wonderful debut by Roger is enough to have this on top, for now.

    1. Live and Let Die
    2. The Man With The Golden Gun
    3. Thunderball

    4. Die Another Day
    5. A View To A Kill
    6. You Only Live Twice
    7. Skyfall

    8. Quantum of Solace
    9. The World Is Not Enough
    10. Spectre

    Next is Tomorrow Never Dies. I expect this to be above LALD
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Great to see some love for LALD and DAD. The former is one of the first few I saw on VHS and immediately enjoyed it, and DAD really does have great action all throughout.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Recently watched THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS.

    When the trailer for this showed in the cinema, it was the US version. I was in the navy at the time, and in July I was home on extended summer leave. Listened to a review on Radio Luxembourg that included soundbytes which revealed the Koskov-Whitaker connection. Then I went to see it with a friend and common Bond fan. I remember him commenting during the pts that Dalton was way cooler than Moore. I had wanted Dalton as Bond for years, so I was happy with his casting. The pts is maybe the best since GF (Honourable mentions to MR and OP)

    Main title sequence is sort of generic and uninspired. That A-Ha was doing the theme song was of course a huge thing here in Norway. The only time someone outside the Anglo-American realm got that gig.

    Along with the pts, the Bratislava intro is excellent, straight out of Fleming. That they swapped East Berlin for Bratislava is probably due to Berlin being featured only two films earlier, same as when they avoided Jamaica in TMWTGG.

    Robert Brown is by far my second favourite M after Lee. He is great and down to business in every scene.

    Necros is another good henchman, and I do like both Koskov and Whitaker as villains. They feel like something Fleming could have come up with. Koskov got a few laughs in the cinema. The showdown between Bond and Whitaker is atmosperic and bizarre, somehow reminiscent of the FRWL pts in style.

    Bond aiding the jihadists has bothered me before, but it is probably how it would have played out in real life. That whole middle section is however not very interesting on the whole. Love that John Barry got a cameo in his 12th and final contribution to the series. Kara Milovy is a special Bond girl for sharing a scene with The Master.

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    Don't forget to update the Bond Movie Meter ;)
  • mattjoesmattjoes Pay more attention to your chef
    edited March 2019 Posts: 7,057
    There are some bits that I find annoying. A musical motif that turns up only a few times, mainly in Stacy s house and on the Golden Gate plus once or twice earlier. It just stuck in my mind before.

    This?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=5rpv8bO6erY&t=21s

    It only plays twice

    (I would've thought you didn't care for the screaming guitars. It's a relatively common complaint.)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Don't forget to update the Bond Movie Meter ;)

    Just did. Cheers.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Yes, that damn guitar wanking gets on my nerves.
  • Zorin91Zorin91 Stavanger, Norway
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    My brothers and I finished our Bondathon a few weeks ago. We chose for the sake of variety (and for the sake of my youngest brother being 13 years, might be a little bit tough to start from nr.1 till 24) drew what film to watch each time, the exception being watching Craigs movies in succession.

    We started out with Tomorrow never dies and ended up on a surprising double billing of Live and let die and The man with the golden gun. Never having done a real Bondathon before, just ranked the films from memory, this project made my ranking a bit different. The biggest surprise to me is that I really do find CR the best Bond film. I always liked SF better for some reason. Whats also was kind of surprising was that though I loved OHMSS and especially FRWL, they do end up pretty far down on my list. Guess that says much about my taste in Bond, but also how much I adore these films, when these two can end up this low. I also find Goldeneye slightly overrated, and I do actually enjoy TND a fair bit more.

    Final ranking:

    1. Casino Royale
    2. For your eyes only
    3. The spy who loved me
    4. Skyfall
    5. Goldfinger
    6. The living daylights
    7. Octopussy
    8. From Russia with love
    9. A view to a kill
    10. Tomorrow never dies
    11. Live and let die
    12. On her majesty's secret service
    13. Moonraker
    14. Licence to kill
    15. Goldeneye
    16. Dr. No
    17. The man with the golden gun
    18. Spectre
    19. You only live twice
    20. The world is not enough
    21. Diamonds are forever
    22. Thunderball
    23. Die another day
    24. Quantum of solace
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited March 2019 Posts: 41,009
    Quite the top three you have there, @Zorin91, I always enjoy seeing that level of love for FYEO! OP making the Top 10 for you is gold, as well, that's one of the more underrated installments of the series, in my opinion.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I have had a few surprises myself during this Bondathon. Could be more ahead.
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    I didn't have the misfortune of only having 9 other movies to judge this against so I can understand the disappoint of many when it was first released. I imagine DAF and TMWTGG also being not very pleasant experiences.

    To put Moonraker in context relative to the rest of the series, I don't generally like any of Hamilton or Gilbert's films. I thank them for iconic moments and memorable villains but on a watch-through they are less engaging than the Glen, Young, and Campbell's.

    Moonraker's flaws don't need mentioning but if you roll with the silliness and way too many coincidences, it is a relatively solid adventure. You get what is probably Barry's most varied and rich score, brilliant Ken Adam set design and some of the best villain lines in the series, and those first two points are enough to put Moonraker above Gilbert's other two films.

    1. Tomorrow Never Dies
    2. Moonraker
    3. Live and Let Die
    4. The Man With The Golden Gun
    5. Thunderball
    6. Die Another Day
    7. A View To A Kill
    8. You Only Live Twice
    9. Skyfall
    10. Quantum of Solace
    11. The World Is Not Enough
    12. Spectre

    Next up is Goldfinger. I have no idea where this will end up. I expect somewhere in the top half of the current list
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    edited March 2019 Posts: 2,252
    Goldfinger

    I've never been a fan of Hamilton's style (the dodgy acting - gangster scene, Miami back projection) but with this viewing I'm coming to the conclusion that Goldfinger has the best script in the franchise - concise, witty, subtle humour, style. Love the war of words between Bond and Goldfinger.

    Diamonds are Forever

    The worst special effects and terrible background actor acting (missile blowing up scenes) but absolutely bonkers on the camp and humour. Very rewatchable but minus points for the terrible looking production (with the exception of Adam sets)

    1. Tomorrow Never Dies
    2. Moonraker
    3. Goldfinger
    4. Live and Let Die
    5. Diamonds Are Forever
    6. The Man With The Golden Gun

    Fine to watch but flawed
    7. Thunderball
    8. Die Another Day
    9. A View To A Kill

    Don't look forward to watching
    10. You Only Live Twice
    11. Skyfall
    12. Quantum of Solace
    13. The World Is Not Enough
    14. Spectre

    Next is The Spy Who Loved Me. Apart from the PTS and Lotus chase, I'm not too keen on this one, I'd rather watch Moonraker.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    LICENCE TO KILL finished off my Glenathon last night.

    This was very anticipated in 1989 and did not disappoint. The first half of the film is excellent, but it takes a dive in the second. Kamen is my favourite non-Barry composer along with Newman.

    As in all Glen films, there is aircraft involved in the pts, which sets up the villain really well. Main titles are better than the last few, but way weaker than a couple decades ago. Title song is fine.

    Good use of material from LALD, THR and TMWTGG. Sanchez and Dario are real psychopaths, they laugh during Leiter s maiming, whereas both Killifer and Krest flinch. Both girls are good on the eye, and Brown is a stellar M replacement again.

    The final fight between Bond and the baddie is reminiscent of AVTAK, but whereas Zorin is consumed by water, Sanchez is consumed by fire.


    New Glen ranking:

    1 OCTOPUSSY (+3)
    2 A VIEW TO A KILL (+3)
    3 LICENCE TO KILL
    4 FOR YOUR EYES ONLY (-3)
    5 THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS (-3)
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