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As do I. It doesn't bother me that it's two different Bonds, as Hedison works really well with both!
First saw this with my son and an ex-girlfriend who had never seen a Bond film. She loved it. Me and my son went back to see it a second time, which was a first for me when it came to Bond. I liked it even more on second watch. This time it dropped a bit.
Pts is great as is the main title sequence and song. They got a really good cast and crew in all positions for this one as well, as they have for all Craig films, just as they did for all of the 60s films. Silva has always been one of the weak spots in this before, but I take it back. Bardem s portrayal is one of the strong points.
I am one of the few who like Newman s score, it felt fresh at the time, but I must admit it is nowhere near as good as Arnold s last effort.
Deakins is of course a genius, and there are two scenes that really stand out and elevate the film as a whole-Bond s fight with Patrice in the Shanghai skyscraper and Bond on the frozen lake in Scotland.
I also like the introduction of the new MI6 regulars.
SPECTRE
Saw this too with my son in the theatre, and also saw this twice. I found it less engaging on second watch, but it has grown on me again this time.
The pts is one of the best in the series, the logistics of it truly impressive. I like how it seagues into the opening bars of the theme which are fantastic. Too bad the rest of the song is among the worst. Main titles are fine, but not among Kleinman s best.
I like the plot in this film, and the script is for the most part excellent. There are two things that drag it down however-the DNA analysis of the ring revealing so much info and the photographs elaborately hung up in the abandoned MI6 building just to torment Bond. Daft and dafter, but it takes up about a minute, so not a big deal. Everything else is pretty great.
Everything in Rome is among the highlights of the film. There is excitement, there is fun (car chase) and everything is so well shot. The train fight is second only to the one in FRWL.
I always disliked the Bond/Blofeld connection before, but not anymore. It is an alternative take on it and it works.
Hoyty Toityman s cinematography is lovely, and Newman s score for this is outstanding, among the best in the series.
I prefer this to SF, and as this has been a director themed Bondathon, here is an attempt at ranking the directors output as a whole. I will give a new ranking of the films themselves in the appropriate thread, but you can understand what the top and bottom will be.
1 Peter Hunt
2 Marc Forster
3 Terence Young
4 Sam Mendes
5 Guy Hamilton
6 Lewis Gilbert
7 Martin Campbell
8 Lee Tamahori
9 John Glen
10 Roger Spottiswoode
11 Irvin Kershner
12 Michael Apted
I vehemently disagree, however it's nice to see some positive feedback for Spectre, one of the most positive I've seen in a long time
Practically everything. It was a huge step up from SF, which was also fine.
As do I. A very fair review of a much maligned Bond film. Nice one Thunderfinger.
The blue line is MI6, cBn and AJB
The orange line is all other sources
MI6 median and average rank is 15 and 14 respectively
@GoldenGun Yes I thought about posting them all here, but imgbox has a gallery function so I'll do that, give me a little time
Definitely agree. SP is the only Bond film I found totally unenjoyable upon first viewing, and to me even manages to feel worse with each viewing.
I'd go as far as to say it's the worst film I've watched since 2015, but that tells more about how much I've enjoyed other films I've seen since then.
There are definitely scenes in the film I enjoy. The PTS is admittedly a bit silly, but it is still well made and beautifully shot. The scenes in Rome are all good. The car chase was a case of lost potential though... The encounter with Mr White is a great and intriguing moment. The fight on the train is one of the better in the series. The production value is generally very good through out. There are Bond films that have many fewer high lights as well as significantly worse production values.
What did you think of Craig's performance?
I thought it was fine for the most part, and excellent in many scenes.
I guess the ring thing was actually a trace of some material that was found in the autopsies of the other villains. It's not so bad, really. Certainly communicated poorly in the film though.
I'll never be glad per se that they did that, but I think you're right. It's actually a lot like the 1989 Batman film where they made the Joker the guy who had killed Bruce Wayne's parents. It's wrong in some way, but it works for the film.
Actually, the bit with Mr. White is the only thing that did anything for me. Would have loved it if they'd found a way to make Mr. White the main villain instead of Blofeld.
Other than that, there aren't any highlights for me. There's just "scenes". The production values are high of course, but they're really just icing, as @Birdleson writes. If the overall content doesn't impress, the cinematography and sets only works as a slick "wrapping" around the package that is the film.
Eg: OHMSS and OP are much higher in Bond forums than Non-Bond sites.
TLD and QOS are noticeably lower on Non-Bond sites.
Interestingly, the coloured tiers haven't changed much since the release of Casino Royale, on MI6community at least (unfortunately I can't access the KTBEU ranks, although the AJB and CBN date back to DAD). The biggest change is the drop of Skyfall.
The total ranking of all sources almost matches MI6Community with more positive sentiment for GF, SF and LTK from "general sources" and less for TLD and OHMSS.
The individual film ranks are below. % of people who have ranked it at each position.
On the topic of Spectre, there's certainly a much higher % who have ranked it last.
Overall he enjoyed it though. From Russia With Love I think will be Friday's viewing.