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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    We are too hard on 007 authors that aren't Fleming, Amis or Horowitz. Dynamite comics authors on average however, do understand the fun and uniqueness of the characters. Dynamite is also the biggest mix of both literature and cinematic Bond we have ever seen.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Jean-Marie LePen would have made a great French president.
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    Jean-Marie LePen would have made a great French president.


    I don't think anyone is surprised to know you would think that...
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Thank you. Your comment is no surprise, either.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Jean-Marie LePen would have made a great French president.

    How are the Nazis doing in Norway these days?
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Jean-Marie LePen would have made a great French president.

    How are the Nazis doing in Norway these days?


    Thankfully there are very few of them. However right wing populism is on the rise. Like in the rest of the world unfortunately...

    By attacking what they label as political correctness and the cultural elite, simplistic views and solutions on complex problems have become popularized.
  • RC7RC7
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    jobo wrote: »
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Jean-Marie LePen would have made a great French president.

    How are the Nazis doing in Norway these days?


    Thankfully there are very few of them. However right wing populism is on the rise. Like in the rest of the world unfortunately...

    By attacking what they label as political correctness and the cultural elite, simplistic views and solutions on complex problems have become popularized.

    As is the far left. The political discourse is exclusively between two minorities on either side of the divide. We’re all very different and sometimes we need simplification - even binary decisions - because it’s an impossibility to satisfy the various nuanced opinions of millions of people.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Jean-Marie LePen would have made a great French president.

    How are the Nazis doing in Norway these days?

    Haha! I plain forgot he is a nazi. Or that I am. Good thing you reminded me.
    jobo wrote: »
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Jean-Marie LePen would have made a great French president.

    How are the Nazis doing in Norway these days?


    Thankfully there are very few of them. .

    Are you sure? That word is thrown at a lot of people these days.
    RC7 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Jean-Marie LePen would have made a great French president.

    How are the Nazis doing in Norway these days?


    Thankfully there are very few of them. However right wing populism is on the rise. Like in the rest of the world unfortunately...

    By attacking what they label as political correctness and the cultural elite, simplistic views and solutions on complex problems have become popularized.

    As is the far left.

    But that isn t a problem. They stand for the good hate.
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    I prefer ABBA to The Beatles.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    I prefer ABBA to The Beatles.
    ABBA is a great band, there's no doubt. I can appreciate your perspective.
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    Continuing from The PIERCE BROSNAN Appreciation thread, I can totally understand preferring ABBA to The Beatles. Never been much of a Beatles fan, and would rank The Kinks, The Rolling Stones, The Who above them - of bands from the same era.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    One doesn't have to hate any of the bands you mentioned even if one does think The Beatles are the greatest (as I most certainly do). I'm not going to start criticizing the Kinks, Stones, Who, and "even" Abba to defend The Beatles' claim to fame. That being said, at least The Beatles (and also The Who, and possibly The Kinks, and even ABBA) brought more diversity and musical genius into their works within eight years (or so) than the Rolling Stones did in 55. That's all right, since everyone including me loves the Stones' music, and everyone still wants them to play nothing but Satisfaction and Honky Tonk Women and Jumpin' Jack Flash and Street Fighting Man, but it's stayed basically the same, with the well-known attempts of emulating Sgt. Pepper and the like in the sixties being the exception.

    I really enjoy all of those. But The Beatles (not their individual members) are up there together with Bach and Beethoven for me, never to be surpassed.
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    I prefer ABBA to The Beatles.


    They are quite different to me. Why prefer one to the other?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'll never forget being told by a buddy in high school I was "un-American" somehow for not being crazy about The Beatles.
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'll never forget being told by a buddy in high school I was "un-American" somehow for not being crazy about The Beatles.

    He thought they were American?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'll never forget being told by a buddy in high school I was "un-American" somehow for not being crazy about The Beatles.

    He thought they were American?

    He was a smart guy and really knew his music, so I'd be surprised if he thought that. I can only guess it was either a slip-up, or an exaggeration that they were SO great that you're anti-your-country if you don't care for them, who knows. Odd statement either way!
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Sure, all great things, inventions, musicians and what have you must be American. Don't you realise Henry Ford invented the automobile as well?
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'll never forget being told by a buddy in high school I was "un-American" somehow for not being crazy about The Beatles.

    He thought they were American?

    He was a smart guy and really knew his music, so I'd be surprised if he thought that. I can only guess it was either a slip-up, or an exaggeration that they were SO great that you're anti-your-country if you don't care for them, who knows. Odd statement either way!


    Being patriotic sure is complex concept in America it seems ;))
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'll never forget being told by a buddy in high school I was "un-American" somehow for not being crazy about The Beatles.

    He thought they were American?

    He was a smart guy and really knew his music, so I'd be surprised if he thought that. I can only guess it was either a slip-up, or an exaggeration that they were SO great that you're anti-your-country if you don't care for them, who knows. Odd statement either way!

    Very odd!
    I guess Beatles is one of those bands/artists you "have to" like, and that many of those who are fans really can't understand that some people doesn't care for the music. Same with Bob Dylan. I can listen to both, though.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Same with Bob Dylan. I can listen to both, though.
    I can see why people don't really care to listen to Dylan (I find some of his performances a bit challenging as well), and his tunes range from sublime to public-domain to plagiarised to simplistic (but almost always quite great), but still it must be said that he is probably the greatest lyricist in the business, and he definitely deserved that Nobel Prize for Literature.

    And having Emmylou Harris sing "Every Grain of Sand" (something I, as an atheist, choose to listen to when I WANT to feel sentimental), or countless other cover versions by hundreds of artists, still make me feel Dylan's work is pure greatness and never fails to have its effect on me.


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    The Beatles are not very popular in Liverpool, or were not when I lived there back in 2006.

    Since we're talking of music: Bob Dylan did not deserve his Nobel price and he's a rather mediocre poet at best. Without his music his songs would be rather dull. I can't stand Madonna or Michael Jackson.
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    @j_w_pepper Dylan has made some quality albums, and the lyrics is one of the main contributions to these. Not an artist I listen to often, but I have some albums on CD/vinyl.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I can't stand Madonna or Michael Jackson.
    Agree. I've never understood why they are so popular.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    @j_w_pepper Dylan has made some quality albums, and the lyrics is one of the main contributions to these. Not an artist I listen to often, but I have some albums on CD/vinyl.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I can't stand Madonna or Michael Jackson.
    Agree. I've never understood why they are so popular.

    That's one thing we can agree on. Madonna, Michael Jackson, and Prince are among my selection of people epitomising the status of being "overrated". I also never understood the cult following of David Bowie and a few others from that earlier period. But I guess that's a natural consequence of being a "cult" personality.
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    I do enjoy a bit of Bowie now and then, but can understand that the music isn't for everyone. Madonna is 60 today, by the way - something that got a ridiculous amount of coverage on the news here.
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    Everyone loves Madonna - especially Bond fans
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    I do enjoy a bit of Bowie now and then, but can understand that the music isn't for everyone. Madonna is 60 today, by the way - something that got a ridiculous amount of coverage on the news here.

    That's why I mentioned her. It struck me that I don't like her or see the relevance of her birthday.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I do enjoy a bit of Bowie now and then, but can understand that the music isn't for everyone. Madonna is 60 today, by the way - something that got a ridiculous amount of coverage on the news here.

    That's why I mentioned her. It struck me that I don't like her or see the relevance of her birthday.

    It really has no news value either. Plenty of good, popular artist celebrate their birthdays without getting a mention like that.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    I do enjoy a bit of Bowie now and then, but can understand that the music isn't for everyone. Madonna is 60 today, by the way - something that got a ridiculous amount of coverage on the news here.

    That's why I mentioned her. It struck me that I don't like her or see the relevance of her birthday.

    It really has no news value either. Plenty of good, popular artist celebrate their birthdays without getting a mention like that.

    When she turns 100 (if she does), then maybe that would make sense. But now it's probably because we're in August.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I do enjoy a bit of Bowie now and then, but can understand that the music isn't for everyone. Madonna is 60 today, by the way - something that got a ridiculous amount of coverage on the news here.

    That's why I mentioned her. It struck me that I don't like her or see the relevance of her birthday.

    It really has no news value either. Plenty of good, popular artist celebrate their birthdays without getting a mention like that.

    When she turns 100 (if she does), then maybe that would make sense. But now it's probably because we're in August.

    She will turn 100 in August as well.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I do enjoy a bit of Bowie now and then, but can understand that the music isn't for everyone. Madonna is 60 today, by the way - something that got a ridiculous amount of coverage on the news here.

    That's why I mentioned her. It struck me that I don't like her or see the relevance of her birthday.

    It really has no news value either. Plenty of good, popular artist celebrate their birthdays without getting a mention like that.

    When she turns 100 (if she does), then maybe that would make sense. But now it's probably because we're in August.

    She will turn 100 in August as well.

    I mean there's fairly little news this time of year.
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