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RELOADED simply stops, but that’s by design since the follow up was already filmed and ready to go in 6 months. If EMPIRE had a comparable cliffhanger, it would have hard cut to black after Vader told Luke he was his father.
That's why Bond and Spider-Man were successful and Matrix is not. Would Spider-Man have made as much with a simultaneous release on Disney Plus or Bond on Prime Video?
I saw a noon showing of Matrix and it ended up being a private screening Ala I was the only one in the theater.
Oops. >:)
Yeah, that’s why companies are pretty much dropping that method at the end of the year. The deal made sense in 2020 when theaters were forced to shut down and there was no vaccine available. Their highest grossing film so far is KONG VS GODZILLA. That might have made even more if it was theaters only, but there it is.
I dunno what stopped them from canceling that deal once they realized it was not panning out well for them, but I’m sure they would have ended it much sooner if they could.
Living in the UK I never really benefitted from it as the HBO releases would appear weeks or months later on VOD here. We have to wait a few months for Resurrections on VOD.
The highest!
I don’t get that at all. I see a few obvious nods and beats, but by the second half of the movie it’s a very different beast from ANY of the three films.
I'm so stoked to watch all of them again. With the exception of the first film which I've watched like 20+ times, it will be a totally new experience for me, especially with the addition of The Animatrix which I've never seen before in between the first & second films.
I just watched Reloaded and Revolutions for the first time this month. After years of hearing how bad they were, I bit the bullet and - had a great time! I thought parts 2 and 3 were definitely halves of the same movie.
Looking forward to seeing Matrix 4 but I'll wait until I can rent it at home.
Kill And Kill Again!
Oh dear, not seen it yet.
The whole family and I got sick with the flu right around release so I didn't get a chance to finally see it until yesterday. Needless to say, I'm incredibly underwhelmed after an even longer wait to see it.
Glad you and family have recovered.
I respect your opinion the most on here with regards to the Matrix, should I avoid it and not taint the Trilogy?
Yeah, I'm with you on this, @Creasy47. I didn't get the point of it all. The film reads like one big "remember when?" tribute to the original trilogy, while some of the old cast is starring in a reunion special. Worst of all is that I never got that Matrix feeling. Not even another round of that cryptophilosophical material we have been dealing with since Reloaded can bring back my excitement.
Look, my mind had told me that this film stood very little chance of being good. My heart, however, had hoped for a bit of nostalgic fun. (I mean, kids these days don't even know The Matrix; they couldn't care less! Judging by the trailer, this film might cater to us.) Well, I'm disappointed. What little is left in this film to enjoy gets lost in a jungle of needless flashbacks and heavy-handed myth-building stuff that's just uninteresting. Also, this is very clearly
Nothing wrong with that, but is this film the proper vessel for such a story? I wonder.
I do like the cast, the look of it all and a few brief action scenes. But
The way I see it, Lana should have gone primitive here. If this is supposed to be a new start, keep it extremely low-key and whet our appetite again. Introduce new characters, living in the now, oblivious to the real world. Have them experience strange phenomena, glitches in the Matrix; have them encounter agents, have them figure things out 2021 style (i.e. appeal to a new generation). And then slowly, towards the end, pull in Neo and Trin to get us really excited, but leave most questions unanswered. Create mystery. And do not, for once, leave the Matrix like it means nothing. Have us fear this new version, fear the machines now in control, but keep them faceless, menacing. End on a high note: there's something at play here, and we're all in danger. A new team, guided by Neo and Trin, whose eyes were just re-opened, must form another resistance. Or else... and then the promise of a sequel that will answer all our questions and get us ready for an entirely new adventure. Make it a "cheap" film, but make it cool. The Animatrix has great examples of such stories to offer.
It was wrong to assume that a new film, twenty years later, could switch our enthusiasm back on just like that. You have to start over again, rebuild the excitement and earn back our fan love. You can't just barge in and demand it. It's not, as such, a complete failure of a film, but it feels like it's missing its target completely. This is not the way to get us back into Matrix mode, or at least not IMO.
For what it's worth, if you thought the ending of Revolutions was perfect, then you probably shouldn't bother with Resurrections. If, like me, you hated that both Neo & Trinity had to die, you might enjoy it.
You don't really like protagonists dying, do you, @chrisisall? ;-) Well, they can always be sent to some faraway land, like in The Return Of The King. ;-)
I saw Trinity's death as removing a key motivation of Neo's in order for him to fulfil his programming so to speak, so I had no issue with it. My issues with Revolutions was a lot of unnecessary boring filler and too much emphasis on Zion, the creativity had also got lazy and uninspired in early parts of the film.
My hopes for the new film would be another iteration of the Matrix or a dupe to manipulate Neo further. Stepping far back from the Trilogy Neo is clearly guided and manipulated throughout to perform the function of the one, that's always been the interesting aspect of the films for me.
I can think of a few movies where the protagonists dying makes sense to me (Gladiator, for example), but generally it's used to make the movie 'important'.
If they end up doing a sequel to this and it's in the exact same style as this one, count me out.
I am guessing there is nothing comparable to The Chateau scene...
Not even close. There were maybe one or two snippets of fisticuffs between Neo and Morpheus that were enjoyable enough, before the excessive cutting and generic moves took hold and stood out in a negative way. Yuen Woo-ping's work was sorely missed here, you can see just how much influence his choreography and work with the actors had in the originals. Here, it doesn't feel like much of anyone had to go through any training at all for what they brought to the screen.
For a film as revolutionary and jaw-dropping as the original is, returning after all this time with virtually nothing to say and nothing as groundbreaking on display is really upsetting.