It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
^ Back to Top
The MI6 Community is unofficial and in no way associated or linked with EON Productions, MGM, Sony Pictures, Activision or Ian Fleming Publications. Any views expressed on this website are of the individual members and do not necessarily reflect those of the Community owners. Any video or images displayed in topics on MI6 Community are embedded by users from third party sites and as such MI6 Community and its owners take no responsibility for this material.
James Bond News • James Bond Articles • James Bond Magazine
Comments
This is exactly one of those examples I talked about a few posts before. Something illogical or wrong which would easily be salvageable by adding or taking a line.
But as a whole, it's a damn fine film.
I have written several times before that anyone can love Skyfall as much as he or she wants, but that he or she shouldn't kid themselves that the movie makes any sense. What angers me is that so many times Skyfalls defenders act from a position of smugness, constantly hinting that those who don't like Skyfall are just not able to understand it. Also that gentleman insisted that those who say that Skyfall lacks logic just weren't capable to wrap their mind around it so I offered to prove him wrong anytime he would be brave enough to face the truth. Fair enough, if you ask me.
I just read a very heart-felt and well-written testament from @thelivingroyale about why Dalton is his favourite Bond (in the controversial thread). I personally have trouble with Dalton as Bond-- I can still appreciate him, I still think I understand where he was coming from (absolutely the right direction, IMHO), I just find that he didn't execute as well as some of the other Bonds.
That's my personal opinion. I could then jump all over The Living Royale and bash him and ask him to write down all the reasons why he thinks Tim works for Bond. And I could reply to this, shooting down all of his opinions. It would be easy to do-- not because he's wrong and I'm right. It's because Tim's performance is subjective, like any performance in any film (or TV show, or play).
And, in the end, @thelivingroyale was so articulate, that, like all things subjective, he has given me pause and makes me consider his thoughts (man, I SHOULD watch TLD again... and maybe the next time I see it, the good the man did in his performance will outweigh as what I see are his weaknesses).
Once again, I'm a firm believer in debating and arguing; however, to be insulting towards another, insisting they're wrong in what they see in a subjective piece of art, and asking for them to write down all the things they see work in a film, just so you can say "wrong" is more goading than it is discussing, arguing, debating.
Seriously I gave up on slagging off SP but nearly 5 years later @Getafix is still banging on about how much he hates SF.
Seriously I've never seen someone devote so much energy to something they hate.
Time for @Getafix and Skyfall to get a room.
"It's amazing the panic you can cause with a single computer." - Severine
And BTW: Marlohe is one of the hottest Bond girls of all time. We can all agree on that one, right? ;-)
The film didn't stop to explain, but the Raymond Benson novelization puts sense to it: Frost messed with the firing pin, making the pistol non-functioning but otherwise appearing intact, same weight when held.
So it's a case of either going with what appears on screen (OO7's P99 doesn't fire when he needs it, Frost claims responsibility). Or rejecting it on what's unexplained and didn't convince the viewer. This also applies to the flipping boat in QUANTUM OF SOLACE: folks claim it incossigle (my Benny Hill reference). Still, it's on screen and undeniable that the chasing boat is suddenly drawn backward and flips. That's separate from a desired underwater shot or filler footage to explain or convince. But bottom line: is NOT incossigle. In fact, it's reality for the film as presented.
These things generally follow a standard approach. Don't like the film, many things or most anything is open to question. Like the film, no problem.
However, I think the shorter screen time, in general, makes her that much more effective: live the audience wanting more. I think Severine clearly got this point across.
It doesn't bear thinking about.
I'm sure if Dalton would have been in SF he'd of loved it.
At least Craig didn't appear in such a jarring car crash as LTK.
It was,but we have been told,rightfully so in my opinion,to change those threads to 'appreciation and discussion'...so its a good/bad discussion now on all my threads .
I went back to Mendes' commentary on the scene.
That's all I've got, but I think in another scene, Mendes goes into further detail, stating that Bond does that so that Silva gets to knock the glass. Hope I'm not misremembering or inventing things; I'll have to see if I can find the exact moment. Anyway, I can't say much else except that the idea would be that if Bond shot the glass, he'd win the game and Silva would be left with nothing to shoot at but Sévérine.
Yeah, same with the comment on Scotch. A distraction.
And then Bond jumps into action.
And it’s awesome.
Yes
You've been saying that 5 years
Always good Sir,always ;)
PPl complain about plot holes in SF???
In TB, a routine training test flight, with actual live bombs on board??? Logic-out-window
TB is thoroughly flawed. I still love it. LOL
But just weeks after TB premiered, an actual USAF B-52 carrying 4 H-bombs crashed over Spain, so it's not that unrealistic.
Still makes more sense than an underground train crashing at the exact time of an escape.
But to many of us, it wasn't a mess at all. It's a "matter of perspective."
The part that kills me about TB, but I shrug it off, is the ridiculous lengths Largo and SPECTRE went to: plastic surgery just to hijack an armed military aircraft? They already had Domino in their mitts. So all they had to do was hold her ransom and demand her brother fly the plane where they wanted. A lot less expensive. LOL
I don't disagree. I guess the double thing was in fashion at the time and sounded cool. True on your ideas. NSNA had a better way of working around it also and I think in the novel I think he was just a greedy guy they bribed to crashing the plane.
The coincidental nature of Bond just happening to be in the same health clinic where the SPECTRE plot is unfolding is my biggest hand-wringing moment, but I just go with it.