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She could have smashed Smith with that,and has just confirmed my thinking that the song was more for a female artist.
AWTD is clearly not a great theme although and I might be biased being a Jack White fan I much prefer it to WOTW.
The thing about AWTD and everyone seems at times to conveniently forget this when slating it. Is that till very late in the procees this was Amy Winehouse & Mark Ronson's gig. Jack White had to step in very late into the process and deliver a theme.
So I think it's a bit of a rushed job and could have been better realised but it has potential, I'd dump Alicia Keyes and let White sing alone, I think she was there to add even more commercial impact. White is hugely respected in the music business but hardly a household name despite the success of The White Stripes.
The thing is a I hate WOTW, I hate SPECTRE personally, maybe dirge is the wrong word, it just doesn't say Bond at all for me and I don't worship Adele's theme but it definitely works better for me than that does.
Look I couldn't stand TND, TWINE and thought while Madonna could have delivered a good Bond song DAD was definitely not it and I agree Surrender is much better than Sheryl Crowe's puddle on the floor.
As much as I would have liked one of my favourite bands to deliver a Bond theme I was glad that the original commisioned band for the theme Radiohead was not used.
There actual theme shows far more imagination and talent than Smith's pastiche, Jonny Greenwood is an adept film composer and every band member is more talented than Smith but as whole Smith is a mere footnote next to one of the most influential and highly acclaimed bands of the last 25 years.
Their Man of War which was their original submission (until it was discovered they'd been playing for years live and it might stop the song from being Oscar nominated), was then rejected. Now if the film had been worthy of it this would have been one of the best Bond themes in well over a decade or more.
Agreed. I'll gladly take Another Way to Die over The Whining on the Wall.
Agreed....WOTW is the worst but gets the credit..unbelievable.
Ha-- well done!
Doesnt the opening beat make a difference,it is used so much on UK commercials and TV now !
Its about 3-4th bottom for me ,but surely beats WOTD which seems again arrogant re the lyrics.
Oh, the opening is very cool indeed.
I don't mind AWTD either.
Obv neither are classics but not as bad as some make out either.
Is it coincidence that two of the best songs from recent years - Surrender and YKMN - had Arnold collaborating on them?
That film really needed something like what was delivered, a female like ballad would not have suited it, I get Adele on SF and Cornell was an inspired choice for YKMN.
I actually think YKMN gets better and better with age and Arnold and the much missed Chris Cornell collaborated to a T to deliver the most rocking Bond theme since LALD.
I think what made this different @Getafix, is that the "hacking" isn't done to steal gov't secrets and sell them on the black market or put a nation at risk. In this case, all of that hacking is done to merely humiliate M and MI6. It shows just how insane Silva is. I liked that personal element to the story, in the same way that LTK and TWINE (to a lesser extent) were.
@mybudgetbond, Bond has Always been human, and he has been ageing numerous times, for instance in the last three or four Moore films.
We know he is annoyed that M did not trust him to complete the job on the train and also annoyed that he had to leave his fellow agent to die: "Ronson didn't make it, did he?"
but this never really explains why he is so angry and why he completely abandond his job and, perhaps more importantly, his country. It's almost as if, whilst he is fighting on the train, he's thinking "sod this for a game of soldiers, I've had enough of this."
I wouldn't characterize him as angry. Bitter is more like it. The film doesn't really explain what happened to him, who saved him from the river, how he was healed. It's Bond: we have to accept certain things on faith, sort of like not knowing exactly what happened to Bond after he was shot in the PTS of YOLT.
As for SF, it's supposed to be this great film that put Bond back on top, more involving. But Bond falling hundreds of feet after being shot and surviving is one of those scenarios like that as is Silva enabling a train to crash in the exact right place Bond is are both examples of why I don't think this film should be able to get away with taking it on faith and why I find it overrated.
The jump from Bond being shot and falling to Bond being healed is so huge and obvious that I can only interpret it as either intentional (meaning the story wants to focus on something else) or a messy production that somehow forced to cut out an entire segment (Bond being rescued and healed) for running length reasons. I´m not sure in the context of the actual story much would be gained from learning how Bond was saved and healed, except a better flow of the Story. In any case, I doubt it would explain better why Bond Acts like he Acts after. Except see below.
The PTS in YOLT is an altogether different Scenario, because Bond´s death was planned to be faked from the start by his own People, and that becomes obvious very soon after. In SF noone planned to shoot Bond.
I agree very much that in this period of "more realistic" Bond (come to think of it, in any Bond era), Bond being shot and falling hundreds of feet is a big enough Thing to make it appear more than a Little strange that there wasn´t made a bigger Story out of that alone. I could imagine that at some Point there was a draft devoting more time to Bond being rescued and healed, and somewhat changed in his mind, like for instance Jet Li´s character in Hero, before returning to London, and then the second half of the Story focussing on Bond confronting M, instead of all the Silva Story.
What is lower than working class, because the movie and its sequel does not work for me as 007 movie.
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The fall is unrealistic if you want to spend time analysing it (although he is far more likely to survive that fall than Alec is to survive the fall onto hard concrete at the end of GE). And the film is fair game if you really, really want to pick it apart after multiple viewings.
But, I still think this is a splendid film, full of semi-iconic moments. We should be proud that the film did as well as it did at the box office. We saw Bond back on top after years of falling behind other franchises. The film and Craig were rightly lauded.
Very well stated, and I’m in full agreement with you.
We'll stand firm, shoulder to shoulder @peter
If I want to see pretentiousness I would not go to a 007 movie, I go to a movie-house and their offerings are generally better than the recent 007 output.
The Boyle debacle did nothing to improve my trust in EON. Or Craig as he has too much say for my taste, this new director while his "true detective" was decent again smells of an artyfarty approach instead of a decent thriller / actioner.
Your avatar tells it all.