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  • vzokvzok
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    Aww nice way of saying " one stupid scene is better than the other. Talking about tension which was highly predictable trying to stop the bomb (GP plot repeated)No matter the stakes there are better ways to come up with better sequence then what they have come up with. Remember AVTAK opening where bond use a flare or something like that to stop a chopper, in SP ending bond shoot at chopper, Ethan was pretty close than bond was in both movies .
    RN had a lot of common coincidence of copying not just the opera sequence I have posted it multiple times and Frankly I am tired of saying it again to people who wants to keep there eyes close, deny all you want by saying they are weak arguments but these aren't coincidence . Just like Hitchcock films, mi owes a lot to bond films .
    RN certainly made me think of Hitchcock at the opera scene.
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    Is 7 & 8 going to be the final 2 films?
  • 2Wint2Kidd2Wint2Kidd
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Is 7 & 8 going to be the final 2 films?
    That's an interesting point. It would make sense to do the 1-2 punch like Marvel did with Infinity War and Endgame. In all likelihood they'll keep making these as long as Cruise can.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    For a moment I thought, "Hey, what´s going on? They´re producing already 9 and 10!" Then I realised this isn´t the FF thread :-)).
  • M_BlaiseM_Blaise
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    If the next Bond has a scene similar to something in an MI film it wouldn't matter if it's bet
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    That's an interesting point. It would make sense to do the 1-2 punch like Marvel did with Infinity War and Endgame. In all likelihood they'll keep making these as long as Cruise can.
    Maybe he wants to get them filmed so he finally join the Sea Org.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Decided to re-visit some of the later M.I films. i do find these films don't linger in the mind like the Bond movies do. Anyone else find this?

    Ghost Protocol is much better than i remember. Takes a little while to get going but once the film gets to Dubai it's full throttle. Some really good action, especially the skyscraper highjinks. I forgot how good the climax is with the moving car park and the race to abort the missile.

    I did love Paula Patton in the film and i think she'd of made a good Bond girl.

    Next was Fallout for the third time i'd seen this. Yet again, jaw dropping action (The Paris sequence tops it for me) and another nailbiting finish. Although i do think the climax is too drawn out (That is a bloody long 15 minutes!)

    Yet again i think the Bond filmmakers missed a trick not employing Rebecca Ferguson who is a class act here as much as she was in the previous film. Does acting and action very well.

    I remember hating MI:2 when it came out especially coming after the classy Brian De Palma original.

    Can't remember much about MI:3 at all.

    Next up for a re-watch is Rogue Nation which i have seen twice.
  • BT3366BT3366
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    LeonardPine wrote: »
    Decided to re-visit some of the later M.I films. i do find these films don't linger in the mind like the Bond movies do. Anyone else find this?

    Ghost Protocol is much better than i remember. Takes a little while to get going but once the film gets to Dubai it's full throttle. Some really good action, especially the skyscraper highjinks. I forgot how good the climax is with the moving car park and the race to abort the missile.

    I did love Paula Patton in the film and i think she'd of made a good Bond girl.

    Next was Fallout for the third time i'd seen this. Yet again, jaw dropping action (The Paris sequence tops it for me) and another nailbiting finish. Although i do think the climax is too drawn out (That is a bloody long 15 minutes!)

    Yet again i think the Bond filmmakers missed a trick not employing Rebecca Ferguson who is a class act here as much as she was in the previous film. Does acting and action very well.

    I remember hating MI:2 when it came out especially coming after the classy Brian De Palma original.

    Can't remember much about MI:3 at all.

    Next up for a re-watch is Rogue Nation which i have seen twice.

    You've hit on why I enjoy being a fan of both series, actually.

    Bond is about image, a lot of us would like to recreate the character and just about any guy who has ever put on a tux has looked in the mirror and muttered "Bond, James Bond." And there's all the locations, girls, gadgets, etc. Aston Martin is another example. It stays with us and that's why it's lasted for years.

    MI movies are about immediacy, an exciting time in the cinema or home video and it pretty much stays within those moments we watch the films or trailers in getting ready for them. But we don't necessarily aspire to be Ethan Hunt and I'm pretty sure nobody here longs to go around with latex masks to impersonate people, although that could be fun in some cases.

    That's why I dig these two series on different levels.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I would really hope that the last film will veer more towards the kind of film the first installment was where it was less about motorcycle chases and explosions, and more about stealthy operations. IMO nothing has topped the CIA sequence with Hunt simply trying to download a file. The original show was more or less about a team that was so good at their jobs that when they finish their heist there's literally no trace of their existence left on the field.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
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    @LeonardPine, I agree that Bond films linger. But that is not always a good thing. SF and SP keep haunting me, I want to like them, but everytime I give them another try I find them not satisfying. Ghost Protokoll and Rogue Nation are in the second row of my shelf, where those films that don´t linger in my mind so much reside. Nevertheless, any time I watch one of those two, I´m having a thorroughly good time.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    @LeonardPine, I agree that Bond films linger. But that is not always a good thing. SF and SP keep haunting me, I want to like them, but everytime I give them another try I find them not satisfying. Ghost Protokoll and Rogue Nation are in the second row of my shelf, where those films that don´t linger in my mind so much reside. Nevertheless, any time I watch one of those two, I´m having a thorroughly good time.

    Oh God yes. The MI films are not particularly nourishing but they are great entertainment.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    RN is probably I have watched more than once and watched last week on TV. I find it highly rewatchabale than any of the others.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    boldfinger wrote: »
    @LeonardPine, I agree that Bond films linger. But that is not always a good thing. SF and SP keep haunting me, I want to like them, but everytime I give them another try I find them not satisfying. Ghost Protokoll and Rogue Nation are in the second row of my shelf, where those films that don´t linger in my mind so much reside. Nevertheless, any time I watch one of those two, I´m having a thorroughly good time.

    Glad I'm not the only one who arranges their shelves this way!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    BT3366 wrote: »
    You've hit on why I enjoy being a fan of both series, actually.

    Bond is about image, a lot of us would like to recreate the character and just about any guy who has ever put on a tux has looked in the mirror and muttered "Bond, James Bond." And there's all the locations, girls, gadgets, etc. Aston Martin is another example. It stays with us and that's why it's lasted for years.

    MI movies are about immediacy, an exciting time in the cinema or home video and it pretty much stays within those moments we watch the films or trailers in getting ready for them. But we don't necessarily aspire to be Ethan Hunt and I'm pretty sure nobody here longs to go around with latex masks to impersonate people, although that could be fun in some cases.

    That's why I dig these two series on different levels.

    Yeah, the main difference is that the Bond films are actually about James Bond as a character, whereas Ethan Hunt just happens to be the main character in the Mission Impossible films. Neither approach is superior to the other, they're just different.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    I would really hope that the last film will veer more towards the kind of film the first installment was where it was less about motorcycle chases and explosions, and more about stealthy operations. IMO nothing has topped the CIA sequence with Hunt simply trying to download a file. The original show was more or less about a team that was so good at their jobs that when they finish their heist there's literally no trace of their existence left on the field.

    They're just heist movies and continue to be so. The TV series actually got rather dull as nothing would ever go wrong on their heists: there was no excitement and the rather characterless teams felt a bit smug. I believe it was a few series in before they realised that they should actually try and introduce a bit of drama by having the plans not go entirely smoothly.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
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    If I have to choose, I still prefer the Craig series to MI, but MI is awesome. And I can't believe anyone thinks the opera sequence in RN somehow copies QoS...!
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    They're just heist movies and continue to be so. The TV series actually got rather dull as nothing would ever go wrong on their heists: there was no excitement and the rather characterless teams felt a bit smug. I believe it was a few series in before they realised that they should actually try and introduce a bit of drama by having the plans not go entirely smoothly.

    I’ve only seen the first season, and recall pretty early on that things would go wrong so they’d have to improvise on the spot. The characters were more archetypes, as that’s how television shows back in those days were more heavy on plot and theme, whereas character growth wouldn’t be a thing until decades later.
  • BT3366BT3366
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    The MI TV series is not an easy binge. Unlike most of today's series where everything is a season-long thread, these were self-contained stories and there weren't a lot of variants and that becomes apparent. Early on it was Iron Curtain countries and banana republic dictatorships and occasionally a mob, and in latter seasons it was the mob or syndicate as they called it.

    Then again, it was a different time and people liked this enough to keep it on for 7 seasons. What gets me is there are 6 MI movies and in 5 of them there's some mole in the organization or betrayal. With Bond these days it's always some personal angle.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    ProfJoeButcher wrote: »
    If I have to choose, I still prefer the Craig series to MI, but MI is awesome. And I can't believe anyone thinks the opera sequence in RN somehow copies QoS...!

    Ridiculous, isn't it? That Rogue Nation opera sequence is one of the best movie thriller set pieces in the last twenty years or so.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    BT3366 wrote: »
    The MI TV series is not an easy binge. Unlike most of today's series where everything is a season-long thread, these were self-contained stories and there weren't a lot of variants and that becomes apparent. Early on it was Iron Curtain countries and banana republic dictatorships and occasionally a mob, and in latter seasons it was the mob or syndicate as they called it.

    Then again, it was a different time and people liked this enough to keep it on for 7 seasons. What gets me is there are 6 MI movies and in 5 of them there's some mole in the organization or betrayal. With Bond these days it's always some personal angle.

    As I said a bit further up, I think the repeated mole angle (I think Rogue Nation was the first MI movie not to feature a treacherous IMF agent!) isn't quite as bad as the third act heist in every single MI movie so far to involve Ethan having to steal and/or hand over something which is too dangerous to be 'out in the open' in order to use it to get someone or something which is of even greater importance. In Fallout they changed this to a person rather than a thing, but it's still the same formula in every one.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'll be curious to see if the next installment doesn't end on a cliffhanger, of sorts, considering they'll film back to back and the releases of the two are only a year apart. Damn, I'm excited to see what they come up with.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'll be curious to see if the next installment doesn't end on a cliffhanger, of sorts, considering they'll film back to back and the releases of the two are only a year apart. Damn, I'm excited to see what they come up with.

    Good point; it does seem likely, doesn't it?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
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    Good point; it does seem likely, doesn't it?

    I do think so! If there's ever a time to do it, that would certainly be it. Leave audiences in anticipation of what'll follow while simultaneously ensuring they need wait only a year to find out.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Mission Impossible 7 to be primarily filmed in England.

    https://hnentertainment.co/exclusive-mission-impossible-7-expected-to-primarily-shoot-in-england/
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Mission Impossible 7 to be primarily filmed in England.

    https://hnentertainment.co/exclusive-mission-impossible-7-expected-to-primarily-shoot-in-england/

    I am sure their will be locations abroad though!
  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
    edited September 2019 Posts: 2,115
    Hayley Atwell made her own Instagram post. She'll be in both 7 and 8. Part of the text: "I had a go at a ‘photo grid’ in an attempt to display some tech-savvy-millennial skills. For those of you who don’t know, this involves nine separate posts loaded one at a time which only come together as a complete image when someone views the profile page. Some of the comments were of the ‘wot-is-goin-on-u-can’t-frame-a-picture, mate’ variety SO, to ease the confusion, here is my news in one post..... I’m thrilled to have joined @tomcruise and @christophermcquarrie for the next TWO Mission Impossible movies.


  • AlexanderWaverlyAlexanderWaverly
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    Also, Christopher McQuarrie has teased with a glimpse of a storyboard.

  • 2Wint2Kidd2Wint2Kidd
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    AlexanderWaverly wrote: »
    Hayley Atwell made her own Instagram post. She'll be in both 7 and 8. Part of the text: "I had a go at a ‘photo grid’ in an attempt to display some tech-savvy-millennial skills. For those of you who don’t know, this involves nine separate posts loaded one at a time which only come together as a complete image when someone views the profile page. Some of the comments were of the ‘wot-is-goin-on-u-can’t-frame-a-picture, mate’ variety SO, to ease the confusion, here is my news in one post..... I’m thrilled to have joined @tomcruise and @christophermcquarrie for the next TWO Mission Impossible movies.

    I would really like to see her be a villain.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Seems Tom Cruise is currently in Ukraine (and has met with President Zelensky), likely scouting locations for the upcoming film(s).
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Seems Tom Cruise is currently in Ukraine (and has met with President Zelensky), likely scouting locations for the upcoming film(s).

    He's clearly been really sent to find out about Biden! He's a spy!
  • SuperintendentSuperintendent A separate pool. For sharks, no less.
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    Love the very opening of the theme on the accordion.



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