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That looks amazing. Feels like it's round the corner now
I had the same feeling last week. A sudden burst of excitement that almost lost me my place in the queue.
I'm pretty confident the Toyota chase happens before the confrontation with Safin in his base. Bond fails to protect Swann and the kid from the baddies and they're kidnapped (shot of Bond looking worried at the helicopter seems a strong indication). Nomi comes by (glasses scene in the Superleggera) and they team up to break in Safin's base. Bond wears a sand cardigan in the forest chase. He then puts on the navy jumper and then loses it after the confrontation with Safin seen in the trailer. I believe Nomi goes for Madeleine and the kid and Bond goes for Safin. In all honesty I don't believe Nomi will die and perhaps she will successfully save the two of them (scenes shot at the black beach in Maratea). Swann seemed out of her mind in those scenes, she tries to speak with a transmitter, maybe they believe Bond is dead after blowing up the base.
Isn't that how the end of YOLT, Thunderball, TSWLM, MR etc. etc. work? All of those big battle endings have him teaming up with loads of people.
Well he was apparently in the SBS :)
Team work with his contacts, of course, that’s what espionage is all about. Team Mi6 is another matter. In fact, most people that work with Bond end up dead one way pr another. A good babysitter he is not. Nor the most attentive team player.
Well if eating at home is the same as eating in a restaurant, you’re right, there’s no difference.
M must be the entity that fully trusts his agent to conduct his work, Q, the major, is the armourer and quartermaster, who gives Bond what he needs for his job. Moneypenny is M’s secretary. Felix Leiter is a CIA operative, a senior agent of a foreign intelligence service. How do you reckon Bonds interaction with all of these is the same? But I know better to discuss these things with you, dear @mtm . You’ll find a way to prove me wrong ;)
Thing is, that Nolan trend of revealing someone to be someone else known to cannon, robin being the most parallel example to Moneypenny, put us in a situation where the staff takes front row and works with Bond via earpieces, and that does not convey the sense of danger and escapism. I know we live in times of connection and communication, but isn’t the point of these adventures to go on an adventure to a remote place with no communications and none but Bond against all the odds? Did present times and globalisation kill that sense of adventure? Good questions, I reckon.
Not interested in getting personal, sorry. If the issue is which organisation they work for then sure, it is different: one is MI6 one isn’t. I don’t really notice it having an impact on anything myself- it’s just detail. Being a ‘lone wolf’ to me implies he works alone: not that he works alone except with people who aren’t in a particular organisation- it’s kind of small print. Even in Dr No he had MI6 (well, MI7! :) ) contacts and got equipment delivered in the field: it doesn’t matter to me.
And precisely the reason why QOS is the best Craig film for that aspect of the character, the escapism, the exotic locations being far away from “home base”. Bond relying solely on his wits and instincts.
I thought that they did that rather well in CR by moving it to Montenegro. They made it feel like a dodgy and dangerous place very effectively. If it had stayed northern France it wouldn’t have worked! :)
But then wasn’t Mathis MI6 in the movie? I can’t remember. I guess if he was then it would be bad..?
For Your Eyes Only? On Her Majesty’s Secret Service? Thunderball?
Precisely. Now I know why I love it so much ;)
I assumed he was Deuxième like in the novels, his contact in Montenegro.
The novel is set in France though. Looking at the Bond wiki he appears to be MI6. So all scenes with him (and he’s in QoS ;) even if he’d left by then- Fields is MI6 though and she helps Bond) are bad, as is pretty much all of FRWL because Kerim Bay and all of his sons are MI6. Shame, I think FRWL is brilliant.
Maybe it’s best just to take it as it comes and not to try to have distinct rules about ‘x is bad’ because there are always too many exceptions to make those make any sense. Bond working with Nomi might be great, much like it was with Kerim Bay or Mathis.
Anyway even in QoS Bond teamed up. In the end he goes for Greene while Camille goes for Medrano. I believe in NTTD we will see something similar: Bond and Nomi team up breaking together inside Safin’s base and then split up for two different missions: Bond goes for Safin while Nomi rescue Swann and the mysterious kid.
This is Craig’s last. He will be front and center of his final mission. Nomi will just be a sparring partner and I truly believe they will spend quite a few time actually together in that base.
If the “problem” is teaming up, here it seems far more Bondian than the last two. Let’s face the truth: in SF Bond teamed up with two old, uhm, retiree. In SP there was even all the Gang in the field.
I don’t think team ups are an issue but I do think QOS is the most successful in making the world a dangerous place.
Yes Bond and Camille team up but she isn’t an agent. Just a kindred soul looking for her own “measure of comfort”.
Yes Fields arrives to bring in Bond, Mathis supports him. But there’s never any scenes with Bond communicating with home base via ear piece zapping any tension from the proceedings ala SPECTRE and the car “chase”.
Casino rightly so manages to find a very delicate balance between the danger and the support from others involved in bringing LeChiffre down. But in that film Bond has many assets to hand including extra funds as support.
QOS is literally BOND location hoping aside from the search of Ronson’s flat in London.
It’s the Temple of Doom of Craig Bond films.
I think NO TIME TO DIE is aiming to find the balance from CR. But certain things in the trailer look closer to the BOND Craig was shaping up to be pre SKYFALL.
It looks very much cut from the same wonderful “cloth” that CR and QOS were cut from and I for one cannot wait to see Craig off in style and danger!
The stuff about Safin wanting to fix one of humanity’s biggest problems is an interesting one: there aren’t many villains like that. Maybe Drax and Stromberg but that’s about it..?
Could be a Thanos thing; lowering the burden on Earth's finite resources by drastically reducing the number of those relying on them maybe? I know there are other examples of this but Thanos is the only one I can think of right now.
EDIT: Kingsman The Secret Service was about this as well IIRC (the graphic novel, anyways).