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  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    I think SP & DAF are the two film's where it feels like the lead actor wasn't at all interested to play it. The reason it seems boring because it lacks the same energy SF had, even though SF had some of it's flaws but all actors looked really alive in that.
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
    Posts: 737
    Fun article which broadens out the problems we have discussed involving NTTD and the continuing story arc.

    http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20200430-star-wars-why-the-empire-strikes-back-is-overrated

    It basically says that Empire started the fetish for revelations and ongoing instalments of a franchise.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,267
    All I can say regarding the issues of continuity and an ongoing arc (I don't think it has worked out particularly well creatively, either) is that any of the things that haven't been done well in this era will either be done better in the next or abandoned entirely. So you only really have to endure one more film before a new group of films, more to your personal taste, hopefully arrives!
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
    Posts: 737
    All I can say regarding the issues of continuity and an ongoing arc (I don't think it has worked out particularly well creatively, either) is that any of the things that haven't been done well in this era will either be done better in the next or abandoned entirely. So you only really have to endure one more film before a new group of films, more to your personal taste, hopefully arrives!

    I'll be dead by the time Bond 26 comes out the way things are going.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    Posts: 280
    Fun article which broadens out the problems we have discussed involving NTTD and the continuing story arc.

    http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20200430-star-wars-why-the-empire-strikes-back-is-overrated

    It basically says that Empire started the fetish for revelations and ongoing instalments of a franchise.

    That article is awful. Continuity itself is not the issue. The issue is that NTTD is following up on what many consider the worst film of the official series.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,267

    I'll be dead by the time Bond 26 comes out the way things are going.

    Well, that's just pessimistic. ;)
  • FatherValentineFatherValentine England
    Posts: 737

    Well, that's just pessimistic. ;)

    Or optimistic depending on how NTTD turns out...lol
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    I was actually very excited when Danny Boyle was named Director....coz I like his directing style & his Script was possibly a Standalone Bond Adventure. But I would like to believe Cary won't continue SP's narrative, if he felt it wasn't going the right direction. Coz SP really disappointed 85% of Bond fans. It's a very Brave route Cary took, but fingers crossed....NTTD will come out good. One thing I noticed is, must of us don't really like what we've seen from NTTD's trailers.... but it's just a trailer, not the full film though.

    Am sure we still remembered SP's teaser trailer very well, it seemed as if the stakes were extremely high, Bond in serious peril & all that. Mr White even telling Bond he's a kite dancing in a Hurricane & Blofeld's Voice speaking from the darkness. But we all saw how the full film turned out to be. It seems NTTD could easily be the opposite of that.....unsatisfying trailers, but great film.
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    I find the trailer of NTTD extremely satisfying, certainly much more satisfying than any trailer of SP or QOS.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    Posts: 4,652
    mtm wrote: »

    I thought that was all of the threads! :D

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  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited May 2020 Posts: 4,247
    TripAces wrote: »

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    Most forceful film laughter ever. :)

    Maybe Kananga's laughter when he invites Bond & Solitaire into his Lair might just edge it.
  • Posts: 430
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8276207/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-Jodie-Cromer-sweet-playing-Miss-Honey-Matilda.html

    “It's the big screen or nothing for Bond. The picture certainly won't be launched on a computer screen or an iPhone. 'If it has to wait till next year then so be it,' I was told by a close source. 'There are hundreds of millions of dollars involved here. Release it when audiences feel safe to return. But it's a nerve-racking call.'

    Meanwhile I'm hearing good things (as you would, I guess) from the tiny number of people lucky enough to have been allowed to see it.”

    I’m on board if NTTD gets delayed to 2021. If the box office health is ensured by doing it then let’s wait. I also want Bond on the big screen. It’s Daniel Craig’s last Bond film and a definitive finish to a two-decade story arc. It deserves a place at the cinema. I think audiences understand the delays given the worldwide circumstances.

  • Posts: 2,436
    Burgess wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8276207/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-Jodie-Cromer-sweet-playing-Miss-Honey-Matilda.html

    “It's the big screen or nothing for Bond. The picture certainly won't be launched on a computer screen or an iPhone. 'If it has to wait till next year then so be it,' I was told by a close source. 'There are hundreds of millions of dollars involved here. Release it when audiences feel safe to return. But it's a nerve-racking call.'

    Meanwhile I'm hearing good things (as you would, I guess) from the tiny number of people lucky enough to have been allowed to see it.”

    I’m on board if NTTD gets delayed to 2021. If the box office health is ensured by doing it then let’s wait. I also want Bond on the big screen. It’s Daniel Craig’s last Bond film and a definitive finish to a two-decade story arc. It deserves a place at the cinema. I think audiences understand the delays given the worldwide circumstances.

    I think a delay to 2021 is looking all but inevitable.
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    Can’t say I’m too happy about that. I understand the profits and stuff but it doesn’t mean fans can’t be frustrated with this. We’re looking at LTK-GE break territory here. This is not something I’m excited about, since I have my reservations about NTTD already due to the ties to SP and some comments from cast and crew. I’d rather have it on demand tomorrow to be quite honest, and I’m usually all about that theater and IMAX experience. I’m just not convinced the wait will be worth it unfortunately.
  • Posts: 2,436
    TheBondFan wrote: »
    Can’t say I’m too happy about that. I understand the profits and stuff but it doesn’t mean fans can’t be frustrated with this. We’re looking at LTK-GE break territory here. This is not something I’m excited about, since I have my reservations about NTTD already due to the ties to SP and some comments from cast and crew. I’d rather have it on demand tomorrow to be quite honest, and I’m usually all about that theater and IMAX experience. I’m just not convinced the wait will be worth it unfortunately.

    Indeed, after all these delays it had better be a bloody good Bond film.
  • edited May 2020 Posts: 637
    TheBondFan wrote: »
    We’re looking at LTK-GE break territory here. This is not something I’m excited about, since I have my reservations about NTTD already due to the ties to SP and some comments from cast and crew.

    "Hey everyone! Enjoy this NEW Bond film, which is a direct sequel to something no one liked from 6 years ago starring an over the hill Bond!"

    Not exactly GOLDENEYE, is it?
  • edited May 2020 Posts: 4,434
    Burgess wrote: »
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8276207/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-Jodie-Cromer-sweet-playing-Miss-Honey-Matilda.html

    “It's the big screen or nothing for Bond. The picture certainly won't be launched on a computer screen or an iPhone. 'If it has to wait till next year then so be it,' I was told by a close source. 'There are hundreds of millions of dollars involved here. Release it when audiences feel safe to return. But it's a nerve-racking call.'

    Meanwhile I'm hearing good things (as you would, I guess) from the tiny number of people lucky enough to have been allowed to see it.”

    I’m on board if NTTD gets delayed to 2021. If the box office health is ensured by doing it then let’s wait. I also want Bond on the big screen. It’s Daniel Craig’s last Bond film and a definitive finish to a two-decade story arc. It deserves a place at the cinema. I think audiences understand the delays given the worldwide circumstances.

    Baz has spoken......interesting that this is not the first occasion that Baz has suggested the film is terrific. Why tease us, Baz! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I know people want NTTD now. I get it.....but I want the ceremony and occasion of its release. If that means a 2021 release.....then so be.......

    In terms, of a further delay. It seems highly inevitable that Universal/MGM would sooner make the decision to delay to 2021 if November is not an option. For the following reasons:
    1. The biggest revenue for blockbuster films is theatres. It's the opportunity to make a gross of $1 billion which would increase the share price of the company (even if the net profit of the film would be less), in turn this ensures the longevity of the studio.
    2. There will be a lack of 2021/2022 product as the shutdown impacts the way the film/TV industry work. The worst case scenario is that production is shut down till April 2021. Which means no new films till the end of 2021 at the earliest. The best thing to do is move product you have available to a time it is financially viable opposed to make a loss on it now.
    3. VOD means making a loss.

    Bond won't go to VOD. It be the equivalent of someone giving away £1 and someone telling you that the maximum return you can get on that investment tomorrow would be 50p, alternatively you could wait and get a return of £1000 on £1 in April next year. You simply would wait. It's a very simple analogy and the numbers in actuality are considerably higher. But it's the same economic principle why NTTD won't go to VOD.

    Simply put, they have spent a stupid amount of money on this film - $250 million (!) - these silly budgets mean films like Bond, Wonder Woman, Black Widow simply can't avoid the risk.

    Furthermore, we have had positive news on a vaccine, we have word that therapeutics are effective on the virus and the word today is that the US have developed an impressive testing equipment.

    Hollywood is very slowly getting on its feet. Antelbellum (from Liongate) and due for release in April just got a new date in August.....If anything NTTD should snatch Venom's October date!

  • Posts: 430
    Escalus5 wrote: »

    "Hey everyone! Enjoy this NEW Bond film, which is a direct sequel to something no one liked from 6 years ago starring an over the hill Bond!"

    Not exactly GOLDENEYE, is it?

    Right...could be better. I say that a massive fan of the film.


  • Posts: 430

    Baz has spoken......interesting that this is not the first occasion that Baz has suggested the film is terrific. Why tease us, Baz! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I know people want NTTD now. I get it.....but I want the ceremony and occasion of its release. If that means a 2021 release.....then so be.......

    In terms, of a further delay. It seems highly inevitable that Universal/MGM would sooner make the decision to delay to 2021 if November is not an option. For the following reasons:
    1. The biggest revenue for blockbuster films is theatres. It's the opportunity to make a gross of $1 billion which would increase the share price of the company (even if the net profit of the film would be less), in turn this ensures the longevity of the studio.
    2. There will be a lack of 2021/2022 product as the shutdown impacts the way the film/TV industry work. The worst case scenario is that production is shut down till April 2021. Which means no new films till the end of 2021 at the earliest. The best thing to do is move product you have available to a time it is financially viable opposed to make a loss on it now.
    3. VOD means making a loss.

    Bond won't go to VOD. It be the equivalent of someone giving away £1 and someone telling you that the maximum return you can get on that investment tomorrow would be 50p, alternatively you could wait and get a return of £1000 on £1 in April next year. You simply would wait. It's a very simple analogy and the numbers in actuality are considerably higher. But it's the same economic principle why NTTD won't go to VOD.

    Simply put, they have spent a stupid amount of money on this film - $250 million (!) - these silly budgets mean films like Bond, Wonder Woman, Black Widow simply can't avoid the risk.

    Furthermore, we have had positive news on a vaccine, we have word that therapeutics are effective on the virus and the word today is that the US have developed an impressive testing equipment.

    Hollywood is very slowly getting on its feet. Antelbellum (from Liongate) and due for release in April just got a new date in August.....If anything NTTD should snatch Venom's October date!


    Or July 2021. Mission Impossible just moved from the date to November of that year.

  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,341
    I'm in the US, this morning on the radio an industry insider (= Operator of a Drive-In movie theater) said business is booming. He has two screens, shows are selling out, he appreciates the support. Trolls World Tour, Onward. [Coming Soon: The Invisible Man.]

    He also mentioned regular theaters are re-opening July. Quite a personable fellow, I enjoyed listening to him.

  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    TripAces wrote: »

    $1.2B at the box office. I think Mendes knew Bond pretty damn well and knew what Bond fans might like.
    Imagine thinking that Bond fans are more numerous than general audience.
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    I have a hunch if the film were delayed until 2021, we'd have to wait until November of next year.
    By then the film would have sat on the shelf collecting dust for more than a year and a half.
    Then we'd be in for another lengthy break afterwards.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    edited May 2020 Posts: 280
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    I have a hunch if the film were delayed until 2021, we'd have to wait until November of next year.
    By then the film would have sat on the shelf collecting dust for more than a year and a half.
    Then we'd be in for another lengthy break afterwards.
    Hearing a nearly two year old Billie Eilish song as the theme will certainly be strange.
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    Escalus5 wrote: »

    "Hey everyone! Enjoy this NEW Bond film, which is a direct sequel to something no one liked from 6 years ago starring an over the hill Bond!"

    Not exactly GOLDENEYE, is it?

    I certainly hope not.

    Despite GE held up as some kind of Bond watermark by some, bearing in mind I like it more than I did back 1995 and it is still PB's best entry, I imagine NTTD will be infinitely better.

    Although you continue to diss Craig at least his accent stays the same throughout his tenure.

    Bearing in mind I rank SPECTRE at no. 24. Gives you an idea of my opinion of Pierce's entries.

    I know bitchy.
  • Agent_OneAgent_One Ireland
    edited May 2020 Posts: 280
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    Shardlake wrote: »
    Although you continue to diss Craig at least his accent stays the same throughout his tenure
    Hey, don't diss the Irish accent -_-

    It's something of a drinking game for me to spot when it comes through!



  • Posts: 16,469
    Agent_One wrote: »
    Hearing a nearly two year old Billie Eilish song as the theme will certainly be strange.

    Especially if her 15 minutes pass and no one remembers her by the time the film is released.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited May 2020 Posts: 7,606
    ToTheRight wrote: »

    Especially if her 15 minutes pass and no one remembers her by the time the film is released.

    This doesn't seem too likely. She is a very talented singer (her synesthesia helps) and she and her brother are talented hitmakers.
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    This doesn't seem too likely. She is a very talented singer (her synesthesia helps) and she and her brother are talented hitmakers.

    Yeah. I was pretty much joking. She'll be around quite awhile.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,606
    ToTheRight wrote: »

    Yeah. I was pretty much joking. She'll be around quite awhile.

    Fair enough! It's always a possibility of course.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,577
    Escalus5 wrote: »

    "Hey everyone! Enjoy this NEW Bond film, which is a direct sequel to something no one liked from 6 years ago starring an over the hill Bond!"

    Not exactly GOLDENEYE, is it?

    @Escalus5 -- whether NTTD is released now or in '21, why bother watching it? Just save yourself and move on. Enjoy the previous films you like.
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