Quick Big Mi6 Music Score Ranking Game

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  • Ah my number 13 as well. I really like this score! One of the best modern Bond scores we've had. Barry had scored many excellent ones that there's no room in the top ten.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Bottom five for me. I used to like it a lot more, but after a few listens I find it boring and uninspired.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    I had it in the 20th spot, but I do like it. Just not as much as the others.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    CR matched up with me at #13. It's damn good stuff, even if it's not my favorite of Arnold's (or even of Arnold's in the Craig era).
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    I've had computer issues so haven't been able to post as much as I'd like, and my backup computer is so slow I can't use YouTube to reference the scores. TMWTGG I had at #8. I really like that score! Someone mentioned its exotic and atmospheric qualities but also very "pointed" cues, and I like how Berry used instrumentation befitting the locales, including I think a zither or something like that. Perhaps the more "hip" step-son of YOLT. TND I had at #18.

    CR--I gave it the gold medal. GoldenGun, fun to see the photo image on the back of that CD! I echo what some of you have said, especially Benny and DarthDimi. Why did I give it the gold? A bit tough to give exact details since I can't access the score right now. But in a nutshell, while there are several Barry scores I love and ranked highly, the CR score, in addition to being very imaginative, just seems to fit the film to a T. Arnold was able to come up with a wide variety of phrases and themes for situations and characters. Some cues I think of: Bond's in M's apartment accessing her computer (I think there's music then); getting off the plane in the Bahamas and driving to the Ocean Club; checking the security disk to locate Dimitrios; scenes with Solange; Bond and Vesper chatting about her dress and his dinner jacket and him trying his on; the poker tournament; and "Vesper's theme". Those are some I remember, and I know music is good or fits the film when I remember it. The score is at times energetic, muscular, suspenseful, menacing, tender.
  • edited July 2021 Posts: 6,844
    This one’s a bit of a surprise. I had expected this might turn out to be Arnold’s highest ranking score. But I agree with some others’ comments that Casino Royale’s score taken as a whole is a bit underwhelming. Still, the “You Know My Name” theme is put to great use in “Blunt Instrument” and Arnold’s Vesper theme is perfectly poignant. I also love “Dinner Jackets” with its playful hinting at the Bond theme in the bassline, and there’s a reason “The Name’s Bond...James Bond” returned in both Skyfall and Spectre. I really didn’t think Quantum of Solace would end up Arnold’s highest ranking score here, but I’m glad that it has. It is in my opinion his best (yet ;) ). Hopefully it cracks the top 10.

    We have an interesting twelve remaining: one Arnold, one Martin, and a whopping ten of Barry’s eleven.
  • mattjoesmattjoes THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST
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    The last section of Blunt Instrument is brilliant as far as I'm concerned. It's quintessentially Bondian in its bold, powerful sound, while at the same time really beautiful and emotive in a more tender way. The brass melody adds the former, while the strings, both melodic and chordal, provide the latter. It all blends very well.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Our number 12:

    OCTOPUSSY
    Music composed by
    JOHN BARRY

    octopussy-ost.jpg

    OP is the second Barry score that leaves the contest.

    It received one 6th place, one 7th place, one 8th place, three 9th places and two 10th places. In addition it ended up in eleven more top 15's.

    One bottom 5 was noted, also its lowest rating: a 22nd spot.

    OP is the highest rated entry that did not obtain a top 5 spot.

    The original music for OP ended up with 127 points in total.



  • I figured this might be one of the first of Barry's to go out. The score has a tendency to fade into the background in the picture, but Barry wrote some really interesting suspense material, particularly in tracks like "Bond at the Monsoon Palace" and "Arrival at the Island of Octopussy," and this score features one of his most sublime romance cues, "That's My Little Octopussy."
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    I had it at 19. It just sounds like it could belong to most any movie, and I don't find a couple hints of the Bond theme leading to the song proper particularly genius. But it's fine overall.

    That's why I had it at #3, really. That's most of what appeals to me about CR in general. It's just an incredible film. It cares more about that than being a Bond film.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Really saddened to see OP bow out so early. It's grown on me immensely in the last little while, as has the film.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,219
    I think this is a bit of an underrated score. Barry brings the romance here--some of his finer soft and sweet moments are in this film. The action stuff is a bit repetitive but overall fantastically well suited for this particular film. His victory music when Bond has defeated the heat-seeking missile, followed by a tense "oh crap, we're low on fuel" moment, followed by a somewhat comedic conclusion is spot on! The one-note tension building during the climax is quite effective; his darker dumdumdumdumdumdum when Clown Bond informs the general that there's a bomb in the cannon is simple but perfect for the scene. Bond visiting Octopussy's island is surrounded by soft strings and mysterious flutes which play well into the exoticism and, indeed, eroticism of the film. And so on. I'm a fan of this score and I repeat: this one is quite underrated. I can't believe LALD gets chosen over this one.
  • I was just thinking I was a bit surprised Octopussy had managed to pull ahead of both Tomorrow Never Dies and Casino Royale, but all three came in rather close as far as the points go: 122, 125, 127.
  • mattjoesmattjoes THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST
    edited July 2021 Posts: 7,040
    Sorry for going back to a previous score for a moment and for such an specific thing, but I wanted to say I love how in TSWLM Hamlisch adds string tremolos to the Bond theme, in the gunbarrel or when Bond is hanging from the camera. Gives it a tense, exciting edge. Conti did the same in his gunbarrel music. Barry didn't do that as far as I can recall.

    ---

    I like Octopussy. Arrival at the Island of Octopussy was mentioned before. I like its exotic sound. That thing the flutes and clarinets play at the beginning (and later violas I think) just makes me think of an octopus' tentacle moving. It's got to do with the repetiveness of the phrase, the sort of strange mood it goes for, and the instrumentation.

    The following didn't crystallize in my mind until recently: the action theme of the film (the one from The Palace Fight) truly does sound like "Bond meets India", between the quirky woodwind melody and the Bondian brass stabs. Also, I love those fast violins in the background; so much of the piece's effectiveness rests on that. Barry does fast violins better than Thomas Newman I think, even though he doesn't do them that often.

    I wish the film version of The Palace Fight had been included in the album, with the Bond theme playing over the shot of the Union Jack balloon. I love that little insert...

    ...almost as much as I love this film's march-like version of the Bond theme. Many people prefer the theme on guitar, but I enjoy hearing those brief, fast-paced notes on violins, accompanied with brass that grows louder as it goes along. And the variations of the theme in Bond Look Alike are delightful as well.

    I agree with the appreciation for That's My Little Octopussy. Very inspired and heartfelt music. I also love the film's cocktail version of All Time High. It's got a supremely gorgeous string section-- really beautiful. Have a listen to a bit of it here!

    In fact, I also love the song All Time High. Rita Coolidge's voice is so beautiful and soothing. And I like those sexy pitch-bending guitars in the background. That part where she goes "in my time I've said these words before..." with arms showing up from behind Bond is my favorite moment of the title sequence, one of my favorite moments in any Bond title sequence, and a perfect combination of sights and sounds.

    There are three short cues that were left out of the score that I think are essential, because as brief as they are, they work wonders in enhancing the respective scenes. One is Bond observing Kamal Khan outside Sotheby's. The other is the opening India music (really exciting and majestic-- can't stress this enough!). The last one accompanies Bond crossing into East Berlin.

    DarthDimi wrote: »
    IHis victory music when Bond has defeated the heat-seeking missile, followed by a tense "oh crap, we're low on fuel" moment, followed by a somewhat comedic conclusion is spot on!
    I agree, the music changes very effectively and neatly from one mood to the next.


    Edit: This is not strictly about the score composed for the film, but Octopussy has a number of catchy, upbeat themes from the De Wolfe music library. I like them!

  • mattjoes wrote: »
    In fact, I also love the song All Time High. Rita Coolidge's voice is so beautiful and soothing. And I like those sexy pitch-bending guitars in the background. That part where she goes "in my time I've said these words before..." with arms showing up from behind Bond is my favorite moment of the title sequence, one of my favorite moments in any Bond title sequence, and a perfect combination of sights and sounds.

    I actually really like the song "All Time High" as well. I know not everyone goes in for the soft love ballads as Bond openers, but this is one I think works really well both in the film and apart from it.

    I'm glad you posted the excellent arrival in Delhi music. I notice one of the top comments on that page mentions how it wouldn't be amiss in Conan the Barbarian. I had never made the connection before, but the similarities truly are remarkable. As Conan came out just the year before in '82, I wonder if Barry subconsciously had Poledouris's score in his head and let some of that come through here.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    edited July 2021 Posts: 7,314
    Great score. I had it at 13 so not far off. It's probably a bit forgotten compared to some of Barry's other legendary efforts, but (as so many of you have already noted) this has the perfect blend of suspense, romance and exoticism. I love how both All Time High and the Bond theme are effortlessly woven into the score. Also really enjoy the music that accompanies the smuggling of the bomb. It really makes you feel the urgency of the danger at hand.
  • edited July 2021 Posts: 1,469
    #19. The score just didn't make an impression on me. Love the film and Roger in it though. I wonder if part of the reason why I don't find the score memorable is because of All Time High, which is a great song, but perhaps not a strong choice for a Bond film and didn't give Barry a lot to work with, to work the theme into the film...perhaps a song with a slightly faster tempo would've helped, like it helped with Goldfinger, which is medium-tempo, but Barry did great things with that theme, as a for instance. Or maybe he was running short of ideas, though I like the later The Living Daylights score better than OP--and that may be due in part because of the "fresh blood" A-ha brought with the up-tempo title song.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,152
    I have it at 6th. Not just because I'm a big fan of OP, but because I think this is one of Barry's forgotten scores.
    I'm trying to think of a track that doesn't work, or fit the tone of the film.
    I even like Rita Coolidge title track.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
    Posts: 1,711
    I was ready to come in and say Octopussy's score was underrated, but I had it at 14!

    It's not as memorable as an OHMSS or YOLT, but Octopussy's score is tremendously effective. There's a lot of darker, sneakier, more ominous stuff in it that help keep the film mostly grounded. Roger Moore and John Glen deserve a lot of credit for not letting the film's lighter or sillier moments run away with everything, but John Barry's score plays a big part as well.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,219
    I'll be frank; I'm biting my lips here. I honestly struggle with the fact that two non-Barry scores are still in the running, while TMWTGG and OP have already been shown to the door. Even at his weakest, Barry knocks the others down. How he plays with his theme songs, how he explores and exploits the local flavours whenever Bond goes exotic, how he knows when to and when not to score a scene... I tried to blame TMWTGG's early demise in this thread on the whistle--which was, after all, Barry's own choice--but I cannot, for the life of me, see how LALD has managed to beat OP. The former feels like TV-episode-of-the-week composing, while OP is such a sweet, balanced, lovely musical endeavour.

    But hey, that's just my opinion. ;-)
  • edited July 2021 Posts: 4,045
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Sorry for going back to a previous score for a moment and for such an specific thing, but I wanted to say I love how in TSWLM Hamlisch adds string tremolos to the Bond theme, in the gunbarrel or when Bond is hanging from the camera. Gives it a tense, exciting edge. Conti did the same in his gunbarrel music. Barry didn't do that as far as I can recall.

    ---

    I like Octopussy. Arrival at the Island of Octopussy was mentioned before. I like its exotic sound. That thing the flutes and clarinets play at the beginning (and later violas I think) just makes me think of an octopus' tentacle moving. It's got to do with the repetiveness of the phrase, the sort of strange mood it goes for, and the instrumentation.

    The following didn't crystallize in my mind until recently: the action theme of the film (the one from The Palace Fight) truly does sound like "Bond meets India", between the quirky woodwind melody and the Bondian brass stabs. Also, I love those fast violins in the background; so much of the piece's effectiveness rests on that. Barry does fast violins better than Thomas Newman I think, even though he doesn't do them that often.

    I wish the film version of The Palace Fight had been included in the album, with the Bond theme playing over the shot of the Union Jack balloon. I love that little insert...

    ...almost as much as I love this film's march-like version of the Bond theme. Many people prefer the theme on guitar, but I enjoy hearing those brief, fast-paced notes on violins, accompanied with brass that grows louder as it goes along. And the variations of the theme in Bond Look Alike are delightful as well.

    I agree with the appreciation for That's My Little Octopussy. Very inspired and heartfelt music. I also love the film's cocktail version of All Time High. It's got a supremely gorgeous string section-- really beautiful. Have a listen to a bit of it here!

    In fact, I also love the song All Time High. Rita Coolidge's voice is so beautiful and soothing. And I like those sexy pitch-bending guitars in the background. That part where she goes "in my time I've said these words before..." with arms showing up from behind Bond is my favorite moment of the title sequence, one of my favorite moments in any Bond title sequence, and a perfect combination of sights and sounds.

    There are three short cues that were left out of the score that I think are essential, because as brief as they are, they work wonders in enhancing the respective scenes. One is Bond observing Kamal Khan outside Sotheby's. The other is the opening India music (really exciting and majestic-- can't stress this enough!). The last one accompanies Bond crossing into East Berlin.

    DarthDimi wrote: »
    IHis victory music when Bond has defeated the heat-seeking missile, followed by a tense "oh crap, we're low on fuel" moment, followed by a somewhat comedic conclusion is spot on!
    I agree, the music changes very effectively and neatly from one mood to the next.


    Edit: This is not strictly about the score composed for the film, but Octopussy has a number of catchy, upbeat themes from the De Wolfe music library. I like them!


    If only someone could do a nice midi of that cocktail version of ATH, or the backgammon music.......
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,985
    I have it at 14th. I was ashamed to realize I really couldn't place much of the score off the top of my head, having to rely on YouTube tracks to jog my memory.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    I feel a bit like @Creasy47. The OP score doesn't stick in my mind like most of the others Bond scores, especially the ones from Barry. My #15.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,219
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I have it at 14th. I was ashamed to realize I really couldn't place much of the score off the top of my head, having to rely on YouTube tracks to jog my memory.

    Interesting point of discussion, @Creasy47.

    I guess I'm a "maniac" when it comes to the Bond scores. I keep them on heavy rotation when I'm doing computer work, driving my car, hiking in the woods, reading books... Despite some upbeat action moments, most of these scores are fairly soothing and relaxed, the perfect background music for when the brain muscles need flexing or for cooling off after a tough day at work. Consequently, I know these scores in and out, and I can hum or whistle the music from any scene in any of the films. I've always assumed that would've been the case for all of us, but when the voting session for this game started, several members said that they can't really call too many of these scores to mind. That's okay, of course. I just found it interesting. ;-)
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,985
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I have it at 14th. I was ashamed to realize I really couldn't place much of the score off the top of my head, having to rely on YouTube tracks to jog my memory.

    Interesting point of discussion, @Creasy47.

    I guess I'm a "maniac" when it comes to the Bond scores. I keep them on heavy rotation when I'm doing computer work, driving my car, hiking in the woods, reading books... Despite some upbeat action moments, most of these scores are fairly soothing and relaxed, the perfect background music for when the brain muscles need flexing or for cooling off after a tough day at work. Consequently, I know these scores in and out, and I can hum or whistle the music from any scene in any of the films. I've always assumed that would've been the case for all of us, but when the voting session for this game started, several members said that they can't really call too many of these scores to mind. That's okay, of course. I just found it interesting. ;-)

    I've seen lots of people, close friends I've made on here included, who seem to listen to the tracks outside of the films quite often, and I'm ashamed to say I rarely do that, but I should. I'll have the scores inside my head for days, weeks even, after I watch a film but rarely check them out in my own free time. I should change that.

    But yes, I thought for sure I would've had most of them locked in when I started my ranking, no extra research required, and was surprised that a couple of the scores didn't stand out to me whatsoever, this one included (which is a real disappointment because I really, really love OP the film).

    I guess I'll never get in a Bond score trivia game with you, then, as I'll surely lose nearly every time!
  • I had OP at #12, it's not very memorable, but it complements the film really well, and so for that I put it higher than the actual quality might warrant.
  • mattjoesmattjoes THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST
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    I notice one of the top comments on that page mentions how it wouldn't be amiss in Conan the Barbarian. I had never made the connection before, but the similarities truly are remarkable. As Conan came out just the year before in '82, I wonder if Barry subconsciously had Poledouris's score in his head and let some of that come through here.
    I can hear the similarities!

    vzok wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Sorry for going back to a previous score for a moment and for such an specific thing, but I wanted to say I love how in TSWLM Hamlisch adds string tremolos to the Bond theme, in the gunbarrel or when Bond is hanging from the camera. Gives it a tense, exciting edge. Conti did the same in his gunbarrel music. Barry didn't do that as far as I can recall.

    ---

    I like Octopussy. Arrival at the Island of Octopussy was mentioned before. I like its exotic sound. That thing the flutes and clarinets play at the beginning (and later violas I think) just makes me think of an octopus' tentacle moving. It's got to do with the repetiveness of the phrase, the sort of strange mood it goes for, and the instrumentation.

    The following didn't crystallize in my mind until recently: the action theme of the film (the one from The Palace Fight) truly does sound like "Bond meets India", between the quirky woodwind melody and the Bondian brass stabs. Also, I love those fast violins in the background; so much of the piece's effectiveness rests on that. Barry does fast violins better than Thomas Newman I think, even though he doesn't do them that often.

    I wish the film version of The Palace Fight had been included in the album, with the Bond theme playing over the shot of the Union Jack balloon. I love that little insert...

    ...almost as much as I love this film's march-like version of the Bond theme. Many people prefer the theme on guitar, but I enjoy hearing those brief, fast-paced notes on violins, accompanied with brass that grows louder as it goes along. And the variations of the theme in Bond Look Alike are delightful as well.

    I agree with the appreciation for That's My Little Octopussy. Very inspired and heartfelt music. I also love the film's cocktail version of All Time High. It's got a supremely gorgeous string section-- really beautiful. Have a listen to a bit of it here!

    In fact, I also love the song All Time High. Rita Coolidge's voice is so beautiful and soothing. And I like those sexy pitch-bending guitars in the background. That part where she goes "in my time I've said these words before..." with arms showing up from behind Bond is my favorite moment of the title sequence, one of my favorite moments in any Bond title sequence, and a perfect combination of sights and sounds.

    There are three short cues that were left out of the score that I think are essential, because as brief as they are, they work wonders in enhancing the respective scenes. One is Bond observing Kamal Khan outside Sotheby's. The other is the opening India music (really exciting and majestic-- can't stress this enough!). The last one accompanies Bond crossing into East Berlin.

    DarthDimi wrote: »
    IHis victory music when Bond has defeated the heat-seeking missile, followed by a tense "oh crap, we're low on fuel" moment, followed by a somewhat comedic conclusion is spot on!
    I agree, the music changes very effectively and neatly from one mood to the next.


    Edit: This is not strictly about the score composed for the film, but Octopussy has a number of catchy, upbeat themes from the De Wolfe music library. I like them!


    If only someone could do a nice midi of that cocktail version of ATH, or the backgammon music.......
    I do have something started on the first one. But dammit I've got to see Goldfinger out the door first! I'll get back on it.
  • Posts: 4,045
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I notice one of the top comments on that page mentions how it wouldn't be amiss in Conan the Barbarian. I had never made the connection before, but the similarities truly are remarkable. As Conan came out just the year before in '82, I wonder if Barry subconsciously had Poledouris's score in his head and let some of that come through here.
    I can hear the similarities!

    vzok wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Sorry for going back to a previous score for a moment and for such an specific thing, but I wanted to say I love how in TSWLM Hamlisch adds string tremolos to the Bond theme, in the gunbarrel or when Bond is hanging from the camera. Gives it a tense, exciting edge. Conti did the same in his gunbarrel music. Barry didn't do that as far as I can recall.

    ---

    I like Octopussy. Arrival at the Island of Octopussy was mentioned before. I like its exotic sound. That thing the flutes and clarinets play at the beginning (and later violas I think) just makes me think of an octopus' tentacle moving. It's got to do with the repetiveness of the phrase, the sort of strange mood it goes for, and the instrumentation.

    The following didn't crystallize in my mind until recently: the action theme of the film (the one from The Palace Fight) truly does sound like "Bond meets India", between the quirky woodwind melody and the Bondian brass stabs. Also, I love those fast violins in the background; so much of the piece's effectiveness rests on that. Barry does fast violins better than Thomas Newman I think, even though he doesn't do them that often.

    I wish the film version of The Palace Fight had been included in the album, with the Bond theme playing over the shot of the Union Jack balloon. I love that little insert...

    ...almost as much as I love this film's march-like version of the Bond theme. Many people prefer the theme on guitar, but I enjoy hearing those brief, fast-paced notes on violins, accompanied with brass that grows louder as it goes along. And the variations of the theme in Bond Look Alike are delightful as well.

    I agree with the appreciation for That's My Little Octopussy. Very inspired and heartfelt music. I also love the film's cocktail version of All Time High. It's got a supremely gorgeous string section-- really beautiful. Have a listen to a bit of it here!

    In fact, I also love the song All Time High. Rita Coolidge's voice is so beautiful and soothing. And I like those sexy pitch-bending guitars in the background. That part where she goes "in my time I've said these words before..." with arms showing up from behind Bond is my favorite moment of the title sequence, one of my favorite moments in any Bond title sequence, and a perfect combination of sights and sounds.

    There are three short cues that were left out of the score that I think are essential, because as brief as they are, they work wonders in enhancing the respective scenes. One is Bond observing Kamal Khan outside Sotheby's. The other is the opening India music (really exciting and majestic-- can't stress this enough!). The last one accompanies Bond crossing into East Berlin.

    DarthDimi wrote: »
    IHis victory music when Bond has defeated the heat-seeking missile, followed by a tense "oh crap, we're low on fuel" moment, followed by a somewhat comedic conclusion is spot on!
    I agree, the music changes very effectively and neatly from one mood to the next.


    Edit: This is not strictly about the score composed for the film, but Octopussy has a number of catchy, upbeat themes from the De Wolfe music library. I like them!


    If only someone could do a nice midi of that cocktail version of ATH, or the backgammon music.......
    I do have something started on the first one. But dammit I've got to see Goldfinger out the door first! I'll get back on it.

    You are a star. I've listened to your Goldfinger tracks more times than I'd care to mention.
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    edited July 2021 Posts: 7,314
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I have it at 14th. I was ashamed to realize I really couldn't place much of the score off the top of my head, having to rely on YouTube tracks to jog my memory.

    Interesting point of discussion, @Creasy47.

    I guess I'm a "maniac" when it comes to the Bond scores. I keep them on heavy rotation when I'm doing computer work, driving my car, hiking in the woods, reading books... Despite some upbeat action moments, most of these scores are fairly soothing and relaxed, the perfect background music for when the brain muscles need flexing or for cooling off after a tough day at work. Consequently, I know these scores in and out, and I can hum or whistle the music from any scene in any of the films. I've always assumed that would've been the case for all of us, but when the voting session for this game started, several members said that they can't really call too many of these scores to mind. That's okay, of course. I just found it interesting. ;-)

    I've seen lots of people, close friends I've made on here included, who seem to listen to the tracks outside of the films quite often, and I'm ashamed to say I rarely do that, but I should. I'll have the scores inside my head for days, weeks even, after I watch a film but rarely check them out in my own free time. I should change that.

    But yes, I thought for sure I would've had most of them locked in when I started my ranking, no extra research required, and was surprised that a couple of the scores didn't stand out to me whatsoever, this one included (which is a real disappointment because I really, really love OP the film).

    I guess I'll never get in a Bond score trivia game with you, then, as I'll surely lose nearly every time!

    @DarthDimi you sound like my kind of maniac! Throughout the course of a lifetime, I have experienced different stages of listening to the Bond scores. They were heavily featured in the discovery stage, but since then it's been intermittent.

    I have always tried to listen to a wide variety of music (despite my personal preferences and biases that we all incorporate to some extent) and admittedly, the older I get the harder it is to identify with new music, but before this ranking game came along I hadn't properly listened to some of the classic scores in quite some time.

    Happy to say that I've rediscovered them all over again while they've been on heavy rotation at work, home and in the car. It's been a great experience, this. I have enjoyed reading all of your opinions and collective analysis.
  • mattjoesmattjoes THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST THE MOONRAKER TAPES ARE LOST
    Posts: 7,040
    vzok wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I notice one of the top comments on that page mentions how it wouldn't be amiss in Conan the Barbarian. I had never made the connection before, but the similarities truly are remarkable. As Conan came out just the year before in '82, I wonder if Barry subconsciously had Poledouris's score in his head and let some of that come through here.
    I can hear the similarities!

    vzok wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Sorry for going back to a previous score for a moment and for such an specific thing, but I wanted to say I love how in TSWLM Hamlisch adds string tremolos to the Bond theme, in the gunbarrel or when Bond is hanging from the camera. Gives it a tense, exciting edge. Conti did the same in his gunbarrel music. Barry didn't do that as far as I can recall.

    ---

    I like Octopussy. Arrival at the Island of Octopussy was mentioned before. I like its exotic sound. That thing the flutes and clarinets play at the beginning (and later violas I think) just makes me think of an octopus' tentacle moving. It's got to do with the repetiveness of the phrase, the sort of strange mood it goes for, and the instrumentation.

    The following didn't crystallize in my mind until recently: the action theme of the film (the one from The Palace Fight) truly does sound like "Bond meets India", between the quirky woodwind melody and the Bondian brass stabs. Also, I love those fast violins in the background; so much of the piece's effectiveness rests on that. Barry does fast violins better than Thomas Newman I think, even though he doesn't do them that often.

    I wish the film version of The Palace Fight had been included in the album, with the Bond theme playing over the shot of the Union Jack balloon. I love that little insert...

    ...almost as much as I love this film's march-like version of the Bond theme. Many people prefer the theme on guitar, but I enjoy hearing those brief, fast-paced notes on violins, accompanied with brass that grows louder as it goes along. And the variations of the theme in Bond Look Alike are delightful as well.

    I agree with the appreciation for That's My Little Octopussy. Very inspired and heartfelt music. I also love the film's cocktail version of All Time High. It's got a supremely gorgeous string section-- really beautiful. Have a listen to a bit of it here!

    In fact, I also love the song All Time High. Rita Coolidge's voice is so beautiful and soothing. And I like those sexy pitch-bending guitars in the background. That part where she goes "in my time I've said these words before..." with arms showing up from behind Bond is my favorite moment of the title sequence, one of my favorite moments in any Bond title sequence, and a perfect combination of sights and sounds.

    There are three short cues that were left out of the score that I think are essential, because as brief as they are, they work wonders in enhancing the respective scenes. One is Bond observing Kamal Khan outside Sotheby's. The other is the opening India music (really exciting and majestic-- can't stress this enough!). The last one accompanies Bond crossing into East Berlin.

    DarthDimi wrote: »
    IHis victory music when Bond has defeated the heat-seeking missile, followed by a tense "oh crap, we're low on fuel" moment, followed by a somewhat comedic conclusion is spot on!
    I agree, the music changes very effectively and neatly from one mood to the next.


    Edit: This is not strictly about the score composed for the film, but Octopussy has a number of catchy, upbeat themes from the De Wolfe music library. I like them!


    If only someone could do a nice midi of that cocktail version of ATH, or the backgammon music.......
    I do have something started on the first one. But dammit I've got to see Goldfinger out the door first! I'll get back on it.

    You are a star. I've listened to your Goldfinger tracks more times than I'd care to mention.
    That's flattering to hear, I'm glad you enjoyed them.
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