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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Barry fans will rejoice as all other scores from 007's maestro will end up in the top 10, because our number 11 is:

    QUANTUM OF SOLACE
    Music composed by
    DAVID ARNOLD

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    That's hardly a defeat though for QOS, who end this contest as the second highest rated non-Barry entry, as well as the most popular one from the Wilson-Babs post-1990 era.

    Unsurprisingly since QOS collected five top 5's: one gold medal, two silvers and two bronzes. One 8th and one 9th spot were also noted.

    Additionally, ten more top 15's were given to our Academy's favourite of the David Arnold scores.

    However, there was also a last place finish, by far the highest ranked entry that ended up as someone's bottom choice. QOS was given two more bottom 5's.

    In total QOS's original music received 129 points.

    Awardwise there was another BMI Film Music Award win for David Arnold, as well as an Empire and a Sattelite Award nomination.

  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    A summary of the contest so far.

    Top 10 (chronologically ranked) :
    FRWL
    GF
    TB
    YOLT
    OHMSS
    DAF
    LALD
    MR
    AVTAK
    TLD

    Eliminated :
    11. QOS
    12. OP
    13. CR
    14. TND
    15. TMWTGG
    16. TSWLM
    17. LTK
    18. DAD
    19. TWINE
    20. SF
    21. GE
    22. FYEO
    23. CR67
    24. DN
    25. SP
    26. NSNA
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    I had it at 24th. Not a fan.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    This makes sense to me. QOS shows how in control Arnold is of his music in 2008. Gone are the erratically screaming horns, the crazy electronic experiments and the poor leftovers from when Arnold was still scoring every Emmerich film. Enter a more reserved, stylish and balanced Arnold. He is more subtle now, hinting Vesper's theme, for example, when Bond has gotten drunk on the plane, with soft synth underscoring the piano tune. There are good ambient moments in this score too, not overused, just used very well. This is that less-is-more strategy I talked about a few posts ago. And for someone like Arnold, excited to show us everything he's got, this is a triumph. A minimalistic score for a short and minimalistic film; a bloody good match!
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
    Posts: 1,711
    I had it way up at number three.

    This to me is the kind of score Thomas Newman should have (and could have) done. It's modern, occasionally minimalistic, but always memorable and engaging.

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Fabulous score. I love every second of it. The opening minute of Time To Get Out had me incredibly excited on first watch - the ominous build matched with the beautiful open vista of Lake Garda and those intermittent stylistic shots of the Aston, the shadows of the tunnel, the assault rifles, the clicking of the safety on Bond's UMP. A perfect marriage of music and visuals.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Always been a big fan of this score. Arnold's best as far as I'm concerned. I like the scores he made for the Brosnan films, although I'll always prefer Serra.

    CR is one of my least favourites though as I find it quite unexceptional, but for QOS Arnold finds the right balance.

    His previous scores often vary between excellent cues and a few chaotic ones as well, but for QOS the tracks are fantastic throughout. Special mention also for that phenomenal end title track.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Damn, it's a shame it didn't make the Top 10 at least, as I had it at #2. It's my favorite Arnold score and one of my favorites in the series, clearly. From the opening main menu music that instantly puts me in the mood to watch the film to the entire score itself, it's moody and atmospheric but also highly engaging and exciting. It's as fitting and memorable as a Bond score gets for me.
  • ProfJoeButcherProfJoeButcher Bless your heart
    Posts: 1,711
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Damn, it's a shame it didn't make the Top 10 at least, as I had it at #2. It's my favorite Arnold score and one of my favorites in the series, clearly. From the opening main menu music that instantly puts me in the mood to watch the film to the entire score itself, it's moody and atmospheric but also highly engaging and exciting. It's as fitting and memorable as a Bond score gets for me.

    :))

    You're absolutely correct of course. I have to laugh though because I wrote and deleted a bit about how great the Blu-Ray menu music is...!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Damn, it's a shame it didn't make the Top 10 at least, as I had it at #2. It's my favorite Arnold score and one of my favorites in the series, clearly. From the opening main menu music that instantly puts me in the mood to watch the film to the entire score itself, it's moody and atmospheric but also highly engaging and exciting. It's as fitting and memorable as a Bond score gets for me.

    :))

    You're absolutely correct of course. I have to laugh though because I wrote and deleted a bit about how great the Blu-Ray menu music is...!

    I love it so much - and yes, I should've specified "blu-ray," since the 4K versions took the lazy route and copied the SF blu-ray main menu atmosphere, so they're all in a similar format. It was a bad tweak when the original blu-ray style and music was so great.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    edited July 2021 Posts: 4,483
    I gave the gold medal to the QoS score. The action scenes were never scored better. Time to get out is intense in the best possible way. Listen to it while driving is crazy ;) the more quiet pieces are also very impactful. I love the moment when they walk through the desert, for example.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Also, Four Tet and Arnold delivering 'Crawl, End Crawl' for the end credits? Perfection. I always have to hear it in full once the film ends.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Certainly a top ten for me and the best of the non-Barry scores.
  • George Martin and Live and Let Die in the Top Ten ! =D>
  • I had the QoS score at #2 as well, slightly less simplistic than CR, which in my opinion was quite unremarkable. This definitely isn't overwhelming, it gets the measure between those two things just right for me.
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    While I rated TND as Arnold's top score, I agree with the praise for his QOS effort. The use of music by Wyclef Jean and Jaime Cuadra also works to a tee in their respective scenes. Still too bad about No Good About Goodbye not being the main theme, as that would've neatly tied in with the score.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    While I rated TND as Arnold's top score, I agree with the praise for his QOS effort. The use of music by Wyclef Jean and Jaime Cuadra also works to a tee in their respective scenes. Still too bad about No Good About Goodbye not being the main theme, as that would've neatly tied in with the score.

    Agreed, especially because AWTD is just not good enough.
  • Posts: 38
    George Martin and Live and Let Die in the Top Ten ! =D>

    I'd rank any of Barry's Bond scores above LALD, which seems to me pretty lightweight -- and I'd include McCartney's title song in that judgment.
  • I would like to have seen Arnold in the top 10, but Barry has clearly dominated this ranking and it was inevitable that Live and Let Die, with its swaggering funk anchored in that catchy theme of McCartney's, would score high. Live and Let Die is a very fun and memorable score. I don't think it's quite up there with the best of Arnold (or even some of the series' other non-Barry composers), but it's a great one and worthy of love.

    While I champion the earliest of Arnold's scores for Bond (Tomorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough, even Die Another Day to a similar degree) and consider them right up there with this one, I do think Quantum of Solace is his most accomplished work for Bond to date. Others have praised various parts of the score already, including the elegant "No Good About Goodbye" theme, the mysterious Quantum theme that's explored at its fullest in "Night at the Opera," and my favorite cue, the perfectly scored and deeply melancholy "What's Keeping You Awake?"

    But there's much excellence throughout from one brief cue to the next: the slinky and playful "Field Trip," the pulsing electronics and snarling Bondian brass of "Oil Fields," the simultaneously cathartic and sobering farewell between Bond and Camille in "The Dead Don't Care About Vengeance" that segues wonderfully into an icy transition with chimes evocative of Russia. And I haven't even touched on "Inside Man," "Talamone," "Forgive Yourself," "Camille's Story," "I Never Left," or the very cool closing collaboration by David Arnold and Four Tet, "Crawl, End Crawl."

    I would love to have seen what Arnold might have done with Skyfall, but I am confident that one day, as with 007 himself, David Arnold will return.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited July 2021 Posts: 7,021
    As it's been pointed out, QoS is more refined and streamlined than Arnold's previous scores, particularly in the action department, where Arnold is generally solid but sometimes tend to ramble a bit. I remember reading Marc Forster had a hands-on approach on the score, which probably also had a positive effect on it. There are some satisfying choices of instrumentation that give the score a distinctive sound all of its own, even more so than in other Arnold scores-- those electric guitars and the zither come to mind. The guitars in particular fit the rougher, more stark style of this film compared to the other ones.

    The "No Good About Goodbye" motif adds a great deal to the score, as well. It shows up in little doses but it absolutely fits like a glove ("Talamone" is a particular favorite rendition of it). The song itself, sung by Shirley Bassey, is the perfect complement to the soundtrack album. It's a great one and I love how it comes to an end. It begins to wind down at about 3:50; the instrumentation grows smaller as Bassey says "no good about goodbye" over and over again, and finally the cello brings the whole thing to a close.

    Back to QoS, at 2:15 in "Time to Get Out" there is a stretch where brass and strings play five-note phrases. That part reminds me of John Barry in how it doesn't feel the need to fill every beat with something-- there's more room to breathe, musically. It reminds me a bit of the brass chords in "Moon Buggy Ride".

    Another track I like is "No Interest in Dominic Greene", with those intriguing woodwind/harp figures, and that gorgeous brass/strings passage at 1:42 that I think is just loaded with emotional content when played in that key. It reoccurs in "Night at the Opera" among other tracks. For some reason that brass part I mention makes me think of John Barry's 90s scores-- things like The Specialist. In fact, it's a good comparison to make-- Quantum of Solace is David Arnold's The Specialist: a low-key but compelling score. (I know not everything has to be compared to Barry but I can't resist).

    "Night at the Opera" itself is another highlight of the score. Accordingly, it has received concert treatment. It's stylish, mysterious and musically economical in the best way.

    The second half of "Camille's Story" is for me among the most "different" parts in any Bond score, but it's quite beautiful and it goes fantastically well with the scene.

    Another highlight for me is "Have You Ever Killed Someone?" which brings back a musical idea from "Time to Get Out" against heavy, driving percussion.

    The last part of "Perla de las Dunas", first with the trumpets, and then with the Bond theme, is quite remarkable. I never thought I'd hear the Bond theme played like that. A really fierce, sinister version that perfectly goes with what's happening on the screen.

    And I like the score's references to "Another Way to Die". They are brief but they tie the music of the film together. I particularly like the one at the end of "Greene & Camille" which is combined with "No Good About Goodbye" and the Bond theme chromatic vamp. Brilliant stuff. (Edit: a bit random perhaps, but the way in which all those ideas are linked reminds me of the overture of Lawrence of Arabia in how, towards the end, Jarre takes three musical ideas introduced before and combines them.)

    This score has a minimalistic, more serious approach compared to the other ones by Arnold, which is why I prefer his early Brosnan efforts, but this is not to say it's worse, it's just different because the film demands it.
  • Excellent observations as always, @mattjoes. I agree with you that the second half of "Camille's Story" sounds more like something you would find in another film outside the series than perhaps any other music in Bond (the occasional opera piece or Magnificent Seven or Close Encounters reference aside). It reminds me quite a lot of the guitar-driven film scoring of Gustavo Santaolalla (The Motorcycle Diaries, Brokeback Mountain, Babel).
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    Great post @mattjoes =D>
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,134
    Top 10 time today, at number 10 we've got:

    GOLDFINGER
    Music composed by
    JOHN BARRY

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    GF's highest finish was one second place. In addition it obtained four 3rd places, three 4th places and one 5th place. Six more top 10's were noted.

    The lowest score was one 22nd place, the only bottom 5 it received.

    In total GF's original music received 137 points.

    John Barry was nominated for the Best Original Score Written for a Motion Picture or Television Show at the Grammy's.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    The Goldfinger soundtrack has a single outstanding highlight for me (apart from the title track): "Into Miami" - this upbeat little piece is the perfect opening for what's to come. Goldfinger, sitting fat and happy in the sun, poolside girls, cocktails and a delicious first encounter of Bond and Jill.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    I gave it a bronze. It has so many memorable cues. Love the Oddjob Theme. Simple, yet menacing and instantly recognizable. It s great!
  • I also gave it 3rd place, a true classic Bond score! Surprised it hit 10th. Cue 'Dawn raid at Fort Knox'
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    What? How can LALD beat GF? This is getting insane. [-(
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    Goldfinger is the quintessential Bond score.
  • Barry came up with the perfect sound for Goldfinger. This is one score I really like a lot. Favorite parts include "Bond Back in Action," "The Best Place in Town," "Golden Girl," "Alpine Drive," "The Laser Beam," "Pussy Galore's Flying Circus," and "Oddjob's Pressing Engagement." The one part I'm not so crazy about is "Dawn Raid on Fort Knox." I've never cared for that mad circus march cacophony either in the film or on album. It just sounds like a lot of headache-inducing noise and it goes on for more than six minutes. I'm really surprised Goldfinger got bested by one of the other Barrys remaining, my second lowest Barry. I'm hoping my top 5 Barrys make the top 5 here and think there's a fair chance at that happening: YOLT, OHMSS, DAF, MR, AVTAK.
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    Love that Bonita track.
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