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You completely missed the point. White history is being REWRITTEN all the time; in fact, completely erased. Do a Google images search of "American inventors" and see what pops up. Try it.
Remember, history is written by the victors. Anyway, back to Bond, please!
Anyway, does anyone have any insight into how box office predictions are done by these professional outfits? I kind of get how they estimate opening weekend figures, but beyond that?
I love how people post questions they could easily Google.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/wherrmann/how-to-predict-a-box-office-hit
https://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/predict-weekend-box-office-before-sunday-numbers.htm
https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3282&context=utk_chanhonoproj
http://people.stern.nyu.edu/jsimonof/movies/movies.pdf
Oh, I think I got the point. But, as you stated, let's move away from racism and get back to Bond.
+1
Sounds like a conservative estimate from Indiewire. If NTTD will have an opening weekend in that range, it should do much more than $150m. If the reviews and word-of-mouth will be closer to Casino/Skyfall level than Quantum/Spectre, then I think $200m will be within reach. Shang-Chi opened with $75m and is now at $196m. Free Guy opened with $28m and is not at $114m. NTTD's legs should be something in between those two films'.
Oh FFS... I thought Oswald Mosely was long dead.
Isn't it also odd to have a kind of broad range like that for the opening weekend prediction and then a single number for the final figure? Isn't more known about the likely opening weekend than is known about what comes later?
Lol some of these people are just talking crazy.
Finally someone who understands. You must be referring to the 700,000 White men who died during the American Civil War and the tens of millions who died during WWI and WWII.
But that's no big deal, right? And no big deal White people are under 10% of the world's population and falling fast.
Anyway, I think the current international box office seems lower than normal for some reason. Black Widow's international cum was pretty low compared to all other Marvel films so what gives? Are people in other territories not going to the movies? Did it not open in China? What's the deal?
Unless I’m mistaken, White men were the instigators of the American Civil War, WW1 and WW2. So, White Men (as well as plenty of others) died at their own hands. It’s a big deal, of course, but I’m not sure how wars started by White men prove the subjugation or marginalization against White men by other ethnic groups.
Also, no one is systematically culling the population of White people around the world. Populations rise and fall based upon a host of factors. Is it anyone’s fault that populations are changing? In other words, there is no malicious intent around population decline or growth.
The international box office is low because of the pandemic. Theater capacity has been reduced due to distancing measures. Some countries restrict movement. Some countries/states/cities are on lockdown. Some people are wary of or are medically restricted from congregating in large groups. BW was also available on Disney+ for an extra fee. Last we were told by Disney, that accounted for around $125 million. That’s, at least, $125 million not earned at the box office. BW did not open in China.
I agree! It’s a great feeling. I hope Bond saves the day.
First, I feel like the media is starting to really generate solid buzz. Lots of newspaper stories around, and so - we're all biased on this site, of course, but I feel like there's a pretty broad excitement for this movie.
Second:
I want to believe that a big film opening would for many people (myself included) bring a really welcome sense of normalcy back after a miserable couple of years.
In other words, the Bond 'brand' (I hate that word) has usually been adventure, glamour, etc., and it can remain that. But if people also associate it with relaxing with friends and family, enjoying things we used to take for granted, a bit of escapism and social fun . . .
If NTTD can tap into some of that, it could do quite well.
Throw in some positive word of mouth and a good release in China, and it could be add up to real money quickly.
Please use this thread to report back critic reviews and box office performance.
I would suggest that anyone wanting to avoid spoilers should also avoid this particular thread. Just to be safe.
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-10034023/Shares-Cineworld-soar-industry-receives-James-Bond-bounce.html
Thank you. I do wish to avoid spoilers. I've already stopped opening the Identified Spoiler boxes, and now will refrain from opening this thread until after I've seen, oh, what is it ? That new action thriller movie...already saw Knives Out, so it isn't that one. It'll come to me...
The local cinema I'm seeing it at has NTTD showing 11 screens. The next closest is Dune with 2.
Surely that says something!
wouldn't that be something for the History books? ;)
Several of the movies have been top 10 box office hits in their years of US release. Before SP, every Bond since GE out grossed the one previous too it. Bond films generally are noticed in America. It looks possible that it could take number one at the box office away from Shang-Chi.
Success in the US will depend on momentum, I think. A week's worth of positive reviews and international success will have a snowball effect. NTTD is already tracking to a $70 million (+/-) opening in the US. Seven + days of buzz will push this to Skyfall's opening or even a bit beyond. All of Craig's Bond films have had amazing legs in the US. So, an $80 million opening will almost guarantee $200 million. I think NTTD will fall somewhere between $750 and $800 million worldwide.
They do fine, but they were never as hyped as they are in international markets. CR’s domestic gross looks unimpressive when compared to its contemporaries, but because it was HUGE outside the US it wasn’t an issue.
Also, CR's legs--and those of the other Craig movies--were amazing in the US.