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That would have been far more satisfying that what we got instead. It's the most unsatisfying death ever - and totally not needed.
I think I heard both him and Cubby turning in their graves last night.
If it made him money, he’d approve.
This is the correct answer.
If you’re against a definitive death, then yeah we’ll have to agree to disagree.
Fleming never killed off Bond directly, even when he was fed up with writing the books. FRWL and YOLT both have cliffhanger endings, which I would have been all for.
Thank goodness the filmmakers don’t treat Bond like some rigid religion.
It's not the one death scene, it's Bond being fractured into little self-contained eras that are going to have their own death scenes for Bond, Felix, Moneypenny, etc. because they are an easy way to make a film important. Super-hero comics do it all the time, and it's always a sign of a creative team who have run out of ideas and are taking an easy route to stand out in a crowd. It's short-term thinking, with a short-term gain but contributes to a long-term problem.
Or at least that's how I see it.
That’s fine by me. I don’t care if we never have an uninterrupted continuity of 20 films ever again where we see a 50 year old gadget master stick to the role until his 80s.
At least with DAD I can have a laugh at how over the top and ridiculous it is. I’d take that any day over feeling angry and disappointed.
Maybe in the future my feelings will change but right now I’m just angry about it.
+1
I absolutely love the fact he and Madeline had a daughter. Loathe that they killed Bond.
I applauded at your post @jetsetwilly. Well said. Sad, but very much true.
I agree with this.
You do. I do. But we know there are many on here that won't. It would have been divisive no matter what way they went.
I don't like that they did it either. Breaks my heart really. But that's what they went for. C'est la vie. There will be more Bond movies to look forward to in the future that will not break my heart. Maybe possibly one where he does get a happy ending with the girl and the possibility of a family. But you will hear the voices come again that they don't like it. It's impossible to please everyone :(.
No, on the contrary. If you take the length of the Madagascar chase in CR or the chase in Turkey from SF ( both around 8 minutes)....that's the car chase in Norway and Matera and the Cuba shootout combined. They are intense, but very short.
I’m not going Zarrozor. Not going to put myself through misery, just to breakdown and cry at the end. Is it really worth it? Right now, you know you’re not going to like it, but it will take on a whole new level if you actually watch it. Just my perspective and my plan, but of course, it’s totally your call.
Yes, I thought that too. I thought they'd last longer.
Sounds like the UAE got the 2020 print of the film! Guess this confirms the US opening will be this but just the new 2021 CGI Lion. But yup, I do prefer this to the international/Universal version. Guess we'll see which of these ends up on home ent given the digital release is all MGM worldwide while Blu-ray is Universal worldwide.
I just don't think it was needed. It was there just to give a shock Last Jedi type ending, which is what dumb teenage audiences now expect. Thrill-and-shock-a-minute, then on to the next flick or Netflix series to binge watch.
It gives no or very little regard to the 50 year legacy that was created before it, and was just used as a cheap, sensationalist trick. Nothing more.
Yeah and when she was 007 and Bond became a double-0 again, what was his number? Nomi kept asking, "Bond is double-0 what?" but M did not respond..lol
I concur 100%. It’s like I said before: did they have a plan? Or was it done to indulge the creative cravings of 2 or 3 people. DC, MGW, BB. The audience of 3 is all that matters. To heck with 68 years of legacy, prestige and the feelings of a loyal and large fan base. IMHO.
She then pointed out it was awkward when Paloma brushed off Bond and even the way Bond awkwardly came onto her was out of character for Craig's Bond. He was so overt
She then said is it unacceptable for women to fancy attractive men openly in 2021? Is that seen as weak?
While she was having this deep internal crisis, I was driving, trying to think did they cut the speargun scene from the Jamaica sizzle reel?
@JohnBarry nailed it in an earlier post of theirs, I came out of NTTD completely deflated instead of elated
This is the ultimate head scratcher: why did they not make all the other films in the tone of CR? Arguably the best Bond film ever, but at the least, one of the very best. Just seemed like they were all over the place. Could it be that CR set the bar so high, it was lightning in a bottle, and they never could get that back? Seems to me like the film quality in each digressed.
Agreed.
This is the ultimate head scratcher: why did they not make all the other films in the tone of CR and QoS. The last 3 just don’t fit against the first two!!!!
Well, eventually they had make them a bit more uniquely Bondian. CR can get away with its generic action quality because about 20% of the movie is from Fleming. But they couldn't keep going like that.