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I thought they were very good together.
I agree. What made Bond special is gone and can't come back. The magic has been broken.
I hope they keep the Mi6 gang btw. They’ve spent several films developing them, and they’re thoroughly fantastic actors. Some sort of continuity will be needed. It’s a balanced team. But it wound be easy. But it’s Bond. Anything is possible.
We were tipped of subtly in the Pre Title sequence that Madeline was pregnant
There was a lot of good visual story telling in NTTD.
I beg to differ, it's this obsession with nods and the past that has hamstrung and made the films worse. Before the underground scene in DAD there were essentially no real nods or references in the films. The two most acclaimed Craig era films CR and SF feature no real nods or dwelling on the bond past 'mythos' aside from the DB5 garage scene (which i'm sure was added because of the 50th anniversary)
Like I said earlier in this thread most acclaimed films by casual goers, fans and critics were CR and SF and they featured none of this, or the arcing story attempts
NTTD like SP felt like they tried to glue in straight scenes from previous bonds to flesh it out e.g the car tip scene ala FYEO
I don't agree. I still feel the magic and NTTD was quite good. Maybe not as good as Skyfall but really, really good.
And Bond could be still alive... He could be found in next movie badly injured and undergo plastic surgery which would explain the new actor.
If Bond is dead.... every fan will have to decide if they want to continue supporting the franchise. I can't see a valid reason to see Bond 26 if Eon destroyed the magic of Bond, his heroic status etc. You'll be giving Eon and Amazon money they don't deserve.
But the best reason you may be wrong about the death is the huge marketing potential of Bond returning from the dead. Seems a no-brainer golden marketing opportunity to me. Barbara Broccoli and Amazon will surely consider the marketing potential of Bond escaping death. That is the most compelling reason why everyone may be wrong about the demise of Mr James Bond. 😉
No kidding! This isn’t rocket science!
But it’s more fun this way!
Fans who dislike ad hoc retcons > fans who dislike NTTD
Why??
This is exactly how I felt, how I interpreted the ending, watching this film for the first time (I have seen it twice and will go again next weekend). I certainly felt Bond died giving his all ... for duty, for his country, and for his family. For me, throughout this ending, Bond was noble, heroic, tragic, and true to himself. It is gut wrenching. But appropriate, in my opinion; and Daniel's acting was superb.
I agree with all your points here. Just being clear-eyed and practical. The series will continue. I look forward to it all: much to talk about (the new Bond, new director, when will the next one hit the theatres, etc.). Meanwhile, I am very moved by and appreciate NTTD. I feel it was the fitting finale for Craig's Bond - and such a well crafted, beautiful film.
Also complaints of being long and boring, personally I thought the pacing was good and despite its run time the film flew by.
“BUT NO ITS RUINED FOREVERRRR”
I disagree with this take. One of the appeals of Bond is that he’s human, and there’s nothing more human than facing your own mortality.
So the "magic" of James Bond is the fact that he is immortal, invincible, indestructable?? Come on...
If the next film is good enough, you won't care what happened in NTTD. I depised what DAD did with the entire concept of Bond, but after CR all was well again. One film shouldn't undermine the other 24, even if this one doesn't personally sit well in your own head canon. I don't like NTTD, and my reasons are as valid as those who do, but one film shouldn't ruin a series. NTTD doesn't 'fit' for me, but GoldenEye will still be my rose-tinted favourite, and the PTS of TSWLM will still be epic.
At least I hope that's the case for you as well.
Let me guess....you hate the Star Wars sequel trilogy and think that Kathleen Kennedy should be fired as well?
(Adopts old woman loosing her teeth voice as she thoughtfully rubs her chin)
It's one thing I have learned in all my years on the internet. Is that you need to learn to dismiss and ignore certain comments. Many of the negative comments are coming from beta males who just see Bond as a personal stand in, and represent a time when the hero wins without any or little effort. These are often the kind of people who have no purpose and thrust in life and think that the only way that they can succeed is that everyone else looses. And they become resentful and angry if anyone outshines them.
Oh I dismiss them though still there is a lot, possibly review bombing.
So M was categorically against even horrified by the government spying on citizens in Spectre, but not the same government altering DNA against enemies of the state to kill them with a virus?