Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    I really hope they don’t go back to how bond films used to be. It’s not worth the average 4 years in waiting time to get a formulaic bond film. Every film has to test the waters whether it be with emotion/story/character
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Every Bond timeline has its own key love interest.

    Bond 1.0 Tracy
    Bond 2.0 Vesper/Madeleine
    Bond 3.0 Gala? Mary Goodnight?

    Goodnight has an interesting arc in the novels, going from secretary to love interest, but gradually. And of course Gala hasn't been done yet. I'd put both of them in Bond 26.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I really hope they don’t go back to how bond films used to be. It’s not worth the average 4 years in waiting time to get a formulaic bond film. Every film has to test the waters whether it be with emotion/story/character

    :-bd
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I'd like more films in the vein of what Skyfall achieved. Personally, for me, that film was a perfect harmony of the franchise formula, Fleming, and modern moviemaking and storytelling.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I'd like more films in the vein of what Skyfall achieved. Personally, for me, that film was a perfect harmony of the franchise formula, Fleming, and modern moviemaking and storytelling.

    Yup, agreed there. Maybe it was a bit more backwards-looking than I might hope a new one would be, but it's got everything I'd want otherwise.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I'd like more films in the vein of what Skyfall achieved. Personally, for me, that film was a perfect harmony of the franchise formula, Fleming, and modern moviemaking and storytelling.
    Yup, agreed there. Maybe it was a bit more backwards-looking than I might hope a new one would be, but it's got everything I'd want otherwise.
    Yeah, I can see that, and I think that was more because the film's themes were literally about looking to the past, so I think we can safely say with a new actor stepping into the role, we can rely on the film looking forward, whilst hopefully ticking everything else I mentioned Skyfall achieved.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    echo wrote: »
    Every Bond timeline has its own key love interest.

    Bond 1.0 Tracy
    Bond 2.0 Vesper/Madeleine
    Bond 3.0 Gala? Mary Goodnight?

    Goodnight has an interesting arc in the novels, going from secretary to love interest, but gradually. And of course Gala hasn't been done yet. I'd put both of them in Bond 26.

    Yes, Mary Goodnight deserves a second chance, cinematically. If written and portrayed right, please, make her the next Bill Tanner. Ironically, both characters make their cinematic debut in TMWTGG. She was given a second chance and done right in Carte Blanche, EON take note!
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I'd like more films in the vein of what Skyfall achieved. Personally, for me, that film was a perfect harmony of the franchise formula, Fleming, and modern moviemaking and storytelling.
    Yup, agreed there. Maybe it was a bit more backwards-looking than I might hope a new one would be, but it's got everything I'd want otherwise.
    Yeah, I can see that, and I think that was more because the film's themes were literally about looking to the past, so I think we can safely say with a new actor stepping into the role, we can rely on the film looking forward, whilst hopefully ticking everything else I mentioned Skyfall achieved.

    I agree as well with this. There are also are a few suggestions I have for EON: going back to my villains to bring back, PLEASE don’t make it a big secret or other aliases for a character that comes back. Even the general audience sees it coming a mile away! Also, take a break from the art house directors for a film or two. These are meant to be fun movies (for the most part). Let people have some fun, without going overboard with the artsy-ness directors and family soap operas!
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    This thread has been a great read for me and a good next stop from the NTTD one. So many good points here, I am quoting the ones that stuck in my mind but I agree with many more.
    Mallory wrote: »
    Where would I like Bond #7 to go...?
    • I’d like the films to become more appealing to a younger audience (by which I mean those my age, and I’m 30, so not too much younger).
    • Have Bond be established as a 00. No need for another “Bond Begins”.
    • In terms of tone, a little more light hearted, with a Bond who enjoys being a secret agent, is more quippy and more seductive towards the ladies.
    • Retain a harder edge for the fight scenes and dramatic moments, but not maintain this as their core characterisation.
    • A return to single film narratives and stories
    • A new M, Q and Moneypenny. Just so there’s no doubt this is a completely new timeline and reboot.
    • Retire the Astons for a few films. Give Bond something new to drive.
    • Bring back the James Bond theme fully, and have it as an integral part of the soundtrack.
    • Continue to employ good talent behind the camera, in terms of Directors, DOP’s, scorer etc.
    • Move on from Purvis and Wade and have a “showrunner” type screenwriter who has an eye on the future, even though the films will be by and large standalone. PWB may be able to do this.
    • Have some fun! Like the Cuba sequence in NTTD.
    • Rein the budgets in. Bond doesn't need to be a $300m epic.
    • Continue Bond as a standalone series, don't try and build it out into a wider “universe” with spin offs. Bond’s USP is that it is huge “event” cinema and a spin off universe would dilute that massively. Also, given EON’s current output and level of creative control, I just don't see them being able, or willing, to do it.

    You have put together a spot-on list, and other than the first point (I am in my forties), I can subscribe to all the points on it. I'd be sorry to see Ralph Fiennes and Naomie Harris go, but I know what you mean re: a complete fresh start. I could live with an Aston as Bond's personal car, though.
    Minion wrote: »
    I had a thought last night that rather than committing to another "era" with one actor EON could turn Bond into a more director-driven property where each film is its own one-off. In some ways that could be the most appropriate response to the continuity driven Craig era. That way you can have your Michael Fassbender film, your Idris Elba film, your Aiden Turner film, and even a (god help me) Jane Bond movie. You could have moody thrillers, over-the-top action movies, period-piece Cold War films, whatever you want and in more frequent intervals as you are no longer wearing down the energy of one actor and one creative team needing to come up with some internal consistency.

    It sure would be great to see, at least for the next 2-3-4 films... maybe longer if the results are good. IMO, story arcs and Bond are not a good mix, and this would reinforce the films' standalone nature and take it up a couple of notches.
    Seve wrote: »
    No emotional baggage please

    Intro via the pre-credit sequence, as a fully formed mature character

    Any backstories provided via incidental dialogue or flashback

    Good faith between Bond and his employers and politicians

    Standalone charismatic villain, with an interesting lair and menacing henchmen, who dies at the end of the movie

    Great action, exotic locations, high life, new car...

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    Yes, please! The one part where I could see it happening differently is Good faith between Bond and his employers and politicians... specifically, the latter. Would keep things interesting, and more plausible, sort of, to have occasional doubts in that department.

    And I agree with the point you make in your earlier post re: computer/hacking-related plots having little visual appeal and being difficult to translate into exciting action. It is a challenge to find more "physical" plots considering today's IT-centric life and a further challenge to find opportunities for first-person espionage in the days of pervasive online tracking and CCTV, but good scriptwriters should be able to work around it.

    I'd like action as good as CR, and particularly some top-drawer fight choreography, and much tighter writing that doesn't lean heavily on being an 'important' adventure for Bond, in that it doesn't lean heavily on life-changing events for 007, personal revelations, or deaths of long-running characters - it's not that those things are all bad, it's just that you absolutely can't keep doing them every film without it getting stupid; if you can't make a basic 'Bond on a mission' film gripping, then in my opinion the franchise is sunk.


    This, totally.

    And finally, I have a lot of respect for Nolan, but I agree with those of you who said that Nolan's take would be (a) too close to what we just had in the CR-NTTD arc and (b) too detached and "cold" in tone. If Tenet was his Bond film pitch... thanks but no thanks.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Good faith between Bond and his employers/politicians does not make for good drama.

    In the 1950s, employees were deferential to their employers. Not so much now.

    I loved the prickly relationship between Bond and M in NTTD. It was utterly believable, given the threat M inadvertently unleashed.
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    echo wrote: »

    I wish they had incorporated Nomi more in the climactic battle. In fact, I wish they had shown Bond and Nomi infiltrating the base via the Garden of Death, that is, more like the novel.
    Yes I wished we had that instead. The poisonous garden was a waste, totally unused. It had so much potential.

    Then again, I wished they'd gone the whole way and adapted the entire last part of YOLT, instead of just a Fleming nod to a garden with some poisonous plants. This was definitely one of those moments when the book version was far better than what they adapted on screen instead.

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    Denbigh wrote: »
    I'd like more films in the vein of what Skyfall achieved. Personally, for me, that film was a perfect harmony of the franchise formula, Fleming, and modern moviemaking and storytelling.

    For me that film was CR, and not SF.
  • edited October 2021 Posts: 3,334
    I really hope they don’t go back to how bond films used to be. It’s not worth the average 4 years in waiting time to get a formulaic bond film. Every film has to test the waters whether it be with emotion/story/character
    Depends what you mean by "how Bond films used to be"? If your main complaint is the frequency of the release dates then that's where EON has definitely fallen down. Other serialized movies such as F&F, MCU, SW and MI have all taken over by using the same Saltzman/Broccoli "build momentum" template and they admit to it too. And it's not like EON use the long gaps to work on their quality scripts either. NTTD was literally thrown together after Danny Boyle exited a few weeks ahead of the Bond 25 pre-production phase. The long gaps don't really achieve that much other than to allow their competition to gain a bigger footing of the market share.

    Also, test the waters to do what exactly? You don't spend upwards of $280 million on a movie to simply test the waters.
  • edited October 2021 Posts: 7,507
    I think we should expect EON to be able to churn out Bond films more frequently from now on. The long gaps between the films during the Craig era did not have to do with artistic difficulties, but was more a result of bad luck than anything. The time spent on actually producing the films was roughly two years or three years maximum, and those are the time gaps I would expect from now on.

    I don't really understand why they are waiting so long with planning the next film though. They have had almost two years since the production on the last film ended. If it was me I would have used that time to sonder ideas for the next era; which actor to choose, style and tone, possible stories to tell etc. I sincerely hope they have some ideas on this already and are not starting from square one in 2022...
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    echo wrote: »

    I wish they had incorporated Nomi more in the climactic battle. In fact, I wish they had shown Bond and Nomi infiltrating the base via the Garden of Death, that is, more like the novel.
    Yes I wished we had that instead. The poisonous garden was a waste, totally unused. It had so much potential.

    Did it though? It's a garden.
    I'm glad the folks who wanted it got it, but it was always just going to be a garden which we had to be told has some poisonous plants in it. If they'd have gone in that way they would have avoided some plants.
    bondsum wrote: »
    I really hope they don’t go back to how bond films used to be. It’s not worth the average 4 years in waiting time to get a formulaic bond film. Every film has to test the waters whether it be with emotion/story/character
    Depends what you mean by "how Bond films used to be"? If your main complaint is the frequency of the release dates then that's where EON has definitely fallen down. Other serialized movies such as F&F, MCU, SW and MI have all taken over by using the same Saltzman/Broccoli "build momentum" template and they admit to it too.

    I'm not sure they quite work like that: MCU movies are all made by different people so can be made concurrently (it's an actual studio, not a production company); the Star Wars movies were being made quickly but everyone complained about them; F&F movies come out roughly every 4 years; MI movies come out 3-4 years apart... Big movies take time to make, especially when you don't have any more books to adapt.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Eon are always looking at what is popular in the cinematic market so they have an idea of which direction to take the franchise in. They're always trying to get the temperature of their potential audience. I think that takes time, and probably a lot of arguing amongst themselves.
  • EinoRistoSiniahoEinoRistoSiniaho Oulu, Finland
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    jobo wrote: »
    I don't really understand why they are waiting so long with planning the next film though. They have had almost two years since the production on the last film ended. If it was me I would have used that time to sonder ideas for the next era; which actor to choose, style and tone, possible stories to tell etc. I sincerely hope they have some ideas on this already and are not starting from square one in 2022...
    I am certain they've thought and had meetings about these things already. As a family business EON has always kept their cards close to their chest. Us not getting any news doesn't mean nothing is happening.

  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    jobo wrote: »
    I don't really understand why they are waiting so long with planning the next film though. They have had almost two years since the production on the last film ended. If it was me I would have used that time to sonder ideas for the next era; which actor to choose, style and tone, possible stories to tell etc. I sincerely hope they have some ideas on this already and are not starting from square one in 2022...
    I am certain they've thought and had meetings about these things already. As a family business EON has always kept their cards close to their chest. Us not getting any news doesn't mean nothing is happening.

    Well, part of the problem is that the developments of NTTD and especially the end are very significant for how the story will continue and as you said, they kept it all pretty close to the vest, so they surely didn't take meetings with people and gave them like a full plot outline of where NTTD is going to end up.
    Sure they could have just told anybody who wanted to pitch them something that the next one has to be a full reboot or something. But surely even if the next film is a full reboot it has to have some kind of relationship to NTTD - even if the relationship is full on rejection and ignorance - and it seems like a bit of a waste to have meetings with people who don't have the whole picture on what they are getting themselves into.
    And I pretty sure (or at least hope) we are going to see someone new writing the next one.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    A pared-back Bond and pared-back recurring cast worked so well in CR. Remember Mathis' line about the cavalry not coming.

    I hope they do something similar with B26.
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    mtm wrote: »
    echo wrote: »

    I wish they had incorporated Nomi more in the climactic battle. In fact, I wish they had shown Bond and Nomi infiltrating the base via the Garden of Death, that is, more like the novel.
    Yes I wished we had that instead. The poisonous garden was a waste, totally unused. It had so much potential.

    Did it though? It's a garden.
    I'm glad the folks who wanted it got it, but it was always just going to be a garden which we had to be told has some poisonous plants in it. If they'd have gone in that way they would have avoided some plants.
    Bond watching the garden from a protected area, seeing a guard accidentally fall into the water and being dissolved, or a guard blinded and disfigured after touching a plant. `Bond, be careful, any one of those plants could kill you in seconds,' from Q in his earpiece, etc.

    This type of slow build up would have evoked memories of Dr. No and his island, and created far more tension than what we got instead.
  • echo wrote: »
    Good faith between Bond and his employers/politicians does not make for good drama.

    In the 1950s, employees were deferential to their employers. Not so much now.

    I loved the prickly relationship between Bond and M in NTTD. It was utterly believable, given the threat M inadvertently unleashed.

    It’s also just not very cool, is it? I’m not as bothered about the American box office as some seem to be (I wouldn’t mind a scaled down budget), but if it is a cause for concern, then I really don’t think going back to a yes sir, very good sir, stiff upper lip sort of Bond would help. Bond is employed by the establishment. Trust in them is particularly low amongst young people (the demographic they’re reportedly struggling with in the US).

    That’s what confuses me a bit about the Craig backlash from some quarters. Some seem to want NTTD to fail, but if it does, do you really think deviating from Fleming will be the reason why? If anything, I’d imagine the lack of success amongst young Americans is more likely to be because of Bond seeming too old fashioned, even with Craig’s edgier take.

    Going back to a Bond that has complete faith in the establishment wouldn’t work today imo, and I think the Craig era has generally struck a good balance in that area. I don’t want a LTK/QoS sort of Bond in every film, but I’ve got no problem with him winding M up and defying the odd order. Bond should always move with the times, and I don’t think it undermines or goes against his character. It’s just a sign of how things are now.
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    I'd like to see something unique that the film will always be remembered for. Like the Lotus sub or Little Nellie or the Microjet. (or the DB5 was new once!) Something that Bond fans will be talking about for years to come.
    or Nellie's grandaughter? Q could have enormous fun with high tech weapons on this. I think we need an injection of fun? that nose is crying out for machine guns :-)
    (stealth?)

    or

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    That’s what confuses me a bit about the Craig backlash from some quarters. Some seem to want NTTD to fail, but if it does, do you really think deviating from Fleming will be the reason why? If anything, I’d imagine the lack of success amongst young Americans is more likely to be because of Bond seeming too old fashioned, even with Craig’s edgier take.
    I think there is still plenty of edgy material in the books that if adapted in the right way, would tick the boxes for younger audiences. Viv Michel about to be raped in a motel and Bond steps in, Bond is invited by M to a game of cards with one of his friends who he suspects is cheating, the gangsters from DAF and how they pay off the people working for them, Bond being almost kicked to death by two henchmen, Bond going undercover to kill the world's most deadly assassin and first encounters him at a brothel, etc.

    All of this sounds like it could belong to any number of modern gangster flicks and Netflix dramas.
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    I don’t want a LTK/QoS sort of Bond in every film, but I’ve got no problem with him winding M up and defying the odd order.

    Exactly. This kind of dynamic would be fun to watch, and seeing M's reaction to it would make M him/herself a more interesting character. Then again, I could be forgetting the details, but IIRC even in older Bonds where he does not go rogue, he often has issues with following M's orders.
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    patb wrote: »
    I'd like to see something unique that the film will always be remembered for. Like the Lotus sub or Little Nellie or the Microjet. (or the DB5 was new once!) Something that Bond fans will be talking about for years to come.
    or Nellie's grandaughter? Q could have enormous fun with high tech weapons on this. I think we need an injection of fun? that nose is crying out for machine guns :-)
    (stealth?)

    or


    Absolutely. Gimmicky gadgets did not suit the tone of recent films, and DAD's invisi-Aston was a misfire that may have made scriptwriters wary, but a cool gadget, like the ones you mention and the Cavalon in the clip, can elevate an average Bond film and make a good or great one unforgettable (GF comes to mind, but my favourite is TLD's "winterised" Aston... but they needn't all be cars).
    I am somewhat less convinced on the sub, it is cool to watch but too reminiscent of Octopussy's crocodile. I guess it is OK so long as its practical purpose is not too contrived; in Octopussy, a set of scuba gear could have done the job, but I think LTK's manta ray was fine.

    ETA: it has been bugging me for two days now... can anyone remind me which film it was that had M's "tilted" office inside a half-sunk ship?
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
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    As long as it’s practical, the audience will buy it. The reason the invisible car didn’t work was because it was all CGI. Same with the iceberg scene: if they really filmed a stunt man surfing with a parachute on a massive tidal wave, I guarantee you it would not be the joke it is today.
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    bondsum wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    BTW, thank you for your post @bondsum. Would love to hear more about that treatment. And I fully agree with you on the way to move forward... as if you didn't already know ;)
    We do indeed @Univex. ;)

    Just for you, I'll add a little more about the Bond XV treatment. This is what was said about the outline: Richard Maibaum and Michael Wilson came up with a clever conceit for Bond’s first mission—MI6 needs his skills as a pilot and not necessarily as a secret agent. While Bond has flown many aircraft in the previous movies, his piloting abilities have been ancillary to his main assignment. But, in Bond XV, Bond’s aviator skills are the reason that he’s been assigned to this mission. With regards to the Bond Women, there is essentially only one Bond Woman (Betje Bedwell) in the outline. The brief exceptions are his brief dalliance with Elsa in the pre-credit sequence and presumably his flirtations with the woman at his party. The treatment suggests that Bond actually falls in love with Betje or is at the least extremely taken with her. There are several scenes where their courtship is shown, including their time together in Singapore, where Bond buys her jewelry, an uncharacteristically romantic gesture for the cinematic spy. In one version of the treatment, Bond suggests that they live together. It's noted that the Bond of the novels also formed relationships with women, including Tiffany Case, that would extend beyond the missions. Much of Trevor’s advice will form the basis of Bond’s operational behavior in later missions. Most notably, Bond will rarely again fall for a woman while carrying out his mission. Bart Trevor also teaches Bond that the best way to get out of danger is through talking. It’s a technique that Bond relies on frequently. Basically, the story pretty much has Bart Trevor as his tutor and Bond as his prodigy.

    I must add that Mark Edlitz's book is well worth the purchase and essential reading for those that want to know more about story development and the unused Bond scripts.

    A very interesting read, @bondsum! Thank you. Quite an insight on what they’ve been thinking and conjuring over the years.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    patb wrote: »
    I'd like to see something unique that the film will always be remembered for. Like the Lotus sub or Little Nellie or the Microjet. (or the DB5 was new once!) Something that Bond fans will be talking about for years to come.
    or Nellie's grandaughter? Q could have enormous fun with high tech weapons on this. I think we need an injection of fun? that nose is crying out for machine guns :-)
    (stealth?)

    or


    Absolutely. Gimmicky gadgets did not suit the tone of recent films, and DAD's invisi-Aston was a misfire that may have made scriptwriters wary, but a cool gadget, like the ones you mention and the Cavalon in the clip, can elevate an average Bond film and make a good or great one unforgettable (GF comes to mind, but my favourite is TLD's "winterised" Aston... but they needn't all be cars).
    I am somewhat less convinced on the sub, it is cool to watch but too reminiscent of Octopussy's crocodile. I guess it is OK so long as its practical purpose is not too contrived; in Octopussy, a set of scuba gear could have done the job, but I think LTK's manta ray was fine.

    ETA: it has been bugging me for two days now... can anyone remind me which film it was that had M's "tilted" office inside a half-sunk ship?

    That was TMWTGG.
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    Minion wrote: »
    As long as it’s practical, the audience will buy it. The reason the invisible car didn’t work was because it was all CGI. Same with the iceberg scene: if they really filmed a stunt man surfing with a parachute on a massive tidal wave, I guarantee you it would not be the joke it is today.

    Indeed. CGI's best use is as a correction tool, otherwise no matter how good, it takes the viewer out of the moment.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I'm not sure they quite work like that: MCU movies are all made by different people so can be made concurrently (it's an actual studio, not a production company); the Star Wars movies were being made quickly but everyone complained about them; F&F movies come out roughly every 4 years; MI movies come out 3-4 years apart... Big movies take time to make, especially when you don't have any more books to adapt.
    Kevin Feige oversees the MCU movies, and yeah, they do work kinda similiar and share the same overarching storylines. I must emphasise, I'm not talking about making Bond movies concurrently like the MCU, I'm using the Avengers as a prime example. Anthony Russo and Joseph Russo, collectively known as the Russo brothers, managed to make Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014), Captain America: Civil War (2016), Avengers: Infinity War (2018), and Avengers: Endgame (2019) in quick succession. So if they can do it, what's stopping Bond?

    Star Wars didn't have a quality problem, it had a story problem that was being miss-managed by its producer who didn't care too much for Lucas's source material. I don't think you can conflate the two and blame it on the shorter release dates.

    The F&F didn't come out every four years!! Let's take it from when they began ramping up production with Fast & Furious 4 (2009), Fast Five (2011), Fast & Furious 6 (2013), Furious 7 (2015), Furious 8 (2017), Furious 9 was the only exception due to it being delayed and coming out in 2021, but the majority only had a 2-year gap.

    The MI are a little slower to get their act together due to Tom Cruise's already overcrowded schedule, but since Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol in 2011/12 they've closed the distance between each of their own movie releases. Shooting two Mission: Impossibles back-to-back is where they've stolen a march over Bond.

    As I pointed out previously, the long gaps has very little to do with quality or not having any more books to adapt. Danny Boyle’s appointment as director of the new 007 movie was announced around May 2018. As we already know production was due to begin at the start of December 2018, with the film released in the UK on 25 October 2019. By late August 2018, Boyle was gone. The dispute was over the script he and John Hodge were were both working on which was jettisoned as soon as Fukunaga replaced him, then they had to start from scratch all over again. From what we know Boyle and Hodges only had a couple of months to work on various script treatments to get the final screenplay right before it was decided it wasn't what they wanted. What I'm trying to say is, they always sail pretty close to the wind before their movie heads into full production anyway. A long hiatus isn't used for anything more than downtime or working on other pet projects.
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    @Thunderfinger Thank you :)
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