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All those moments lost in time... like tears in rain
I figure this could be a thread for all things Matrix, movies, books/comics, video games, etc. This is also for a possible new trilogy that may come in the form of a prequel sometime around 2017.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/05/the-new-matrix-trilogy-could-launch-in-2017.aspx
The Wachowskis have stated that they want to return to the Matrix, so this could be it.
***UPDATE***
Dusting off this old thread for the new movie coming out!
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/03/05/the-new-matrix-trilogy-could-launch-in-2017.aspx
The Wachowskis have stated that they want to return to the Matrix, so this could be it.
***UPDATE***
Dusting off this old thread for the new movie coming out!
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Not excited. I can understand the filmmakers wanting to go back to that, though. I cannot even remember if they made any good films after the Matrix - did they?
@4EverBonded - they wrote "V for Vendetta"
Tapping into The Animatrix
Four of the films in The Animatrix were written by the Wachowskis, and featured the animation work of some of the top names in Japanese anime, such as Yoshiaki Kawajiri (Ninja Scroll), Mahiro Maeda (Blue Submarine No. 6), and Shinichirō Watanabe (Cowboy Bebop). The anthology offered a much clearer view of The Matrix universe than the one that was presented in the three main films.
Audiences finally understood why the robots rebelled, how the Earth was plunged into eternal darkness, and the origins of some of the new characters who appear in Zion in the third film. It was essentially The Matrix without the pretentiousness of the second and third live action films, and it has an 88% rating at Rotten Tomatoes -- higher than any of the films of the trilogy.
If the Wachowskis and Warner Bros. are intent on moving forward with a new Matrix film, The Animatrix would be an ideal place to start mining for ideas.
The author of the article makes a point that the Wachowskis would be better off just writing the next stories, or giving the main story ideas, than actually directing it. I don't know. I am so lukewarm on a Matrix prequel because I was sorely disappointed in the 2nd and 3rd films; also prequels in general do not make me have a good feeling. I never think "yay! A prequel" I just think, "Ohhhh .. well, if it's done well, maybe ..."
@4EverBonded as @royale65 stated, the Wachowskis wrote "V For Vendetta", which was a good movie, and they wrote/directed "Speed Racer" and "Cloud Atlas".
I did see the Animatrix and yes it was great. In my Matrix order it goes...
The Matrix
The Animatrix
The Matrix Reloaded
The Matrix Revolutions
I think that they should do what the writer in the article said; get the Wachowskis to co-write the stories but have someone else direct them, much like the original Star Wars trilogy.
I'm happy to see that someone else is just as excited about new movies as I am. My hope is that the Matrix franchise will come back and be just as popular as it was back when the trilogy was first coming out.
A full length Animatrix trilogy would be fine by me.
Agreed. I love the soundtrack to those sequences, too. Very pumping!
I'm not going to sit here building a case to defend Revolutions but I can say this: I'm a sucker for those fights. They seem taken straight from the anime / manga tradition and I'm a pretty big fan of those things too. So in a way, The Matrix trilogy delivers the goods as I prefer them.
If there's any truth in these plans to put out more Matrix product, I'm enthused for sure. I think there's a big universe in this series to explore and it can be done in various ways. Comics do the trick; films would be even better. Of course I have standards of quality too so don't worry, I'm not that easy a lay for anything Matrix. I just never understood the massive Revolutions hatred. And if I get another Revolutions, I'd be pleased. Don't hate me for it. :D
I know Reeves was in the original but not aware if he was ever featured again. Are these releases (especially the first) really as awe inspiring as many make out or is it simply too much hype involved ?
Just not a movie release I'd ever want to really see, but feel like I'm in the 1 per cent of the worlds population who's yet to see any of these film titles
The fight scenes? They weren't the Neo Vs. MultiSmiths-like brawls of Reloaded, but I enjoyed the more personal one-on-ones of the first one, and this gave me what I wanted it.
The Zion scenes? I'm sorry, but I'd rather see mechs fight robo-squids any day than a bunch of people dancing in a cave (because many of us have heard that Morpheus was having an orgy). We got a full-on war in Revolutions, something that hasn't even been hinted at since the Second Renaissance shorts on The Animatrix.
The romance? Eh, it was steadily going downhill since the first one anyway, who cares if it hit rock bottom in the third one.
The music? Neodammerung, the score that plays as Neo and Smith fight their final battle, is one of my favorite pieces of film music, right up there with Battle of the Heroes from Revenge of the Sith.
The effects? No real improvement from Reloaded, but they were filmed at the same damn time, what can you say?
The climax? Yeah, a little anti-climactic, but I'd rather have what the film presented instead of the stupid Mega-Smith fight from The Matrix: Path of Neo (a game I regret buying to this very day).
Again, what was wrong with Revolutions? It was a damn superb film, with damn superb everything.
I found the story to be lacklustre and too simplistic in comparison with the other two. And the "Bane revelation" amounted to very little considering it was the basis for the cliffhanger in the previous film.
Other than that, all the traits that you mentioned (the fights, the music etc) were all pretty spectacular. It's just not as good as the other two, overall.
I'm not entirely certain what you mean by that. We knew in the second one that Bane had been taken over by Smith, Enter the Matrix showed us that he killed the crew of his ship, it was pretty obvious what he did, who he was, and why he there. It was actually just sort of a coincidence that the Mjolnir (called the Hammer, because people couldn't pronounce the word) picked him up and he ended up with the crew of the Neb.
Oh yes I know all that, but there was no major consequence for the actions that Bane/Smith took other than Neo's eyesight loss, which in the end wasn't that big of a deal anyway. It was a case of an interesting set up that seemed to just fizzle out.
Oh, I don't know, he destroyed an entire fleet of hovercraft, severely ruining Zion's defense. All of his actions post-fleet destruction are pure happenstance, because the odds that Smith/Bane planned to end up on the Mjonir, planned for the Sentinels to destroy the Neb, are very slim. His goal was destroy a group of hovercraft, pure and simple.
A lot of 3, in particular, feels like it has a lot of padding and just restating the themes brought up in part 2 again and again.
I'm hoping the new film is a lot better than Revolutions which I didn't like at all. Still love the first two though.
I like both films and I do like the version of Smith that allows him to clone himself. Instead of defending Zion, the battle should have been taken directly to the Machine City. However, this would have removed a major plot point from the Animatrix. Reloaded could have stayed mostly the same but rather preparations for an attack to Machine City rather than defense on Zion.
Revolutions could have been the full of assault on Machine City while Neo takes on Smith in the Matrix. The stakes could be the same Ala peace in exchange for ending the war.