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The ROGER MOORE Appreciation thread - Discuss His Life, His Career, His Bond Films

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  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    mtm wrote: »
    I've been watching The Saint recently and it's funny how many turns of phrase that he uses seem to carry over into the Bond films. Not only does he go around wanting 'information' as his 007 does, but in the one I just watched he describes some of the baddies as 'baboons'. I guess he was adjusting his lines quite a bit when he played Bond.

    Are you watching the B/W episodes on Talking Pictures? I'd only seen the colour ones before and Roger didn't fit with the Saint in my head (much like his Bond) but he's much more convincing in these early ones.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I’m doing the colour ones on Britbox, although I should do the b/ws, everyone says they’re better!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Best of James Bond's Roger Moore on Dick Cavett! | The Dick Cavett Show
  • ColonelAdamskiColonelAdamski UK
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    MI6HQ wrote: »
    And then suddenly, I knew that he had a facelift, a surgery, I'm disappointed, because that made it a lot more worst, it made him a bit more aged than ever before.

    You know, I'm usually good at spotting when people have had work done, but I never noticed it with Rog. I might put View on later, and see what I think. Was it around his eyes he had work?

  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited December 2022 Posts: 3,789
    ColonelAdamski wrote: »
    MI6HQ wrote: »
    And then suddenly, I knew that he had a facelift, a surgery, I'm disappointed, because that made it a lot more worst, it made him a bit more aged than ever before.

    You know, I'm usually good at spotting when people have had work done, but I never noticed it with Rog. I might put View on later, and see what I think. Was it around his eyes he had work?

    Yes, and take a look at this pic..... With his bulgy eyes.....

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    Compared to it in The Naked Face

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    It's really different, and it made a lot more difference.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Yeah, I saw Sir Rog interviewed on Wogan at the time and it was impossible not to notice that he'd had his eyes done. Just had another look at it and it's not as obviously noticeable now because we got more used to seeing it later on, but when he first had the work done it did leap out at you. He looked better before, too!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    He had his mole removed, probably due to it starting to grow as they sometimes do, and was probably talked into doing a little extra at the same time.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited December 2022 Posts: 16,382
    I always suspected it was the other way around- he got his face tightened, and when his mole had moved halfway across his cheek towards his ear he had to have it removed as it was a bit of a giveaway! :D
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    :))
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Agent_99 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I've been watching The Saint recently and it's funny how many turns of phrase that he uses seem to carry over into the Bond films. Not only does he go around wanting 'information' as his 007 does, but in the one I just watched he describes some of the baddies as 'baboons'. I guess he was adjusting his lines quite a bit when he played Bond.

    Are you watching the B/W episodes on Talking Pictures? I'd only seen the colour ones before and Roger didn't fit with the Saint in my head (much like his Bond) but he's much more convincing in these early ones.

    Actually, Ian Ogilvy was more fitting as The Saint imo.
  • Agent_99Agent_99 enjoys a spirited ride as much as the next girl
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    MI6HQ wrote: »
    Actually, Ian Ogilvy was more fitting as The Saint imo.

    I've not managed to catch any Return but Ogilvy was so charming at a fan event I went to, I'm very keen to give them a go!
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    There was a point in the '80s when Sir Rog was humming and hawing about coming back and I feared that Cubby might hire Ogilvy as a sort of Moore-lite replacement!
  • ColonelAdamskiColonelAdamski UK
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    Venutius wrote: »
    There was a point in the '80s when Sir Rog was humming and hawing about coming back and I feared that Cubby might hire Ogilvy as a sort of Moore-lite replacement!

    I love Brozza, but I sometimes feel like that's just what he was. A Moore-lite replacement.
    But I do love Brozza as Bond. I'm just saying that "the thought had occurred to me".
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Yeah, as others have said, the progression would make a lot more linear sense if the line of descent had gone: Moore-Brosnan-Dalton-Craig. Brosnan was definitely the right Bond for those films, but there must've been a conscious decision to step back from Tim's Bond and include more of Sir Rog's take, right?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Well, audiences didn't really love him, did they? It needed a bit of a restart.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    Yes, that's why they did it - Tim's Bond evidently a step too far, so put back more of the humour from RM's era. Leave it to simmer while the hunger for more Bond builds, then serve GE - winner!
  • AmericanBondFan1994AmericanBondFan1994 Milford, Michigan
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    His face in a view to a kill seemed so odd in the two years following Octopussy, Does anyone know if he went through some kind of plastic surgery?
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    AmericanBondFan1994 wrote: »
    His face in a view to a kill seemed so odd in the two years following Octopussy, Does anyone know if he went through some kind of plastic surgery?
    Yeah, it's pretty clear that he did. Check a bit further up the page, mate, there's some stuff there. 👍
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2023 Posts: 16,382
    Slightly random observation, but I decided to pop LALD on this evening, and I was kind of struck by how completely in control Roger is straight from the gate. The incredibly confident way he does humour, handling the danger, Bond's lovely arrogance in Harlem etc. When I was watching I was trying to imagine Lazenby doing it, as well he may have done if he'd hung on, and I just can't: Moore is just so far above him in terms of screen presence and exuding a sense of confidence and charisma. Picture him doing that first scene with Rosie: all of the nuance Roger is giving it would be killed stone dead.
    I've actually never been a massive fan of LALD but it may have finally clicked for me, to be honest- it actually moves quite quickly and is bags of fun. And yeah: Roger is superb in it.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited May 2023 Posts: 3,789
    mtm wrote: »
    Slightly random observation, but I decided to pop LALD on this evening, and I was kind of struck by how completely in control Roger is straight from the gate. The incredibly confident way he does humour, handling the danger, Bond's lovely arrogance in Harlem etc. When I was watching I was trying to imagine Lazenby doing it, as well he may have done if he'd hung on, and I just can't: Moore is just so far above him in terms of screen presence and exuding a sense of confidence and charisma. Picture him doing that first scene with Rosie: all of the nuance Roger is giving it would be killed stone dead.
    I've actually never been a massive fan of LALD but it may have finally clicked for me, to be honest- it actually moves quite quickly and is bags of fun. And yeah: Roger is superb in it.

    He may not be my favourite Bond, but I think he's also great in that scene, not just Lazenby, but I just can't imagine any Bond actor doing that, Connery maybe? But the others like Dalton, Craig or Brosnan, I just can't, maybe because it's written with Moore in mind.

    I can imagine Lazenby in the Brosnan Bond films though.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    mtm wrote: »
    Slightly random observation, but I decided to pop LALD on this evening, and I was kind of struck by how completely in control Roger is straight from the gate. The incredibly confident way he does humour, handling the danger, Bond's lovely arrogance in Harlem etc. When I was watching I was trying to imagine Lazenby doing it, as well he may have done if he'd hung on, and I just can't: Moore is just so far above him in terms of screen presence and exuding a sense of confidence and charisma. Picture him doing that first scene with Rosie: all of the nuance Roger is giving it would be killed stone dead.
    I've actually never been a massive fan of LALD but it may have finally clicked for me, to be honest- it actually moves quite quickly and is bags of fun. And yeah: Roger is superb in it.

    Funny @mtm — I had the exact experience as yours when I recently watched LALD… wrote about it somewhere on this site. Roger was absolutely in control.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited May 2023 Posts: 4,629
    mtm wrote: »
    Slightly random observation, but I decided to pop LALD on this evening, and I was kind of struck by how completely in control Roger is straight from the gate. The incredibly confident way he does humour, handling the danger, Bond's lovely arrogance in Harlem etc. When I was watching I was trying to imagine Lazenby doing it, as well he may have done if he'd hung on, and I just can't: Moore is just so far above him in terms of screen presence and exuding a sense of confidence and charisma. Picture him doing that first scene with Rosie: all of the nuance Roger is giving it would be killed stone dead.
    I've actually never been a massive fan of LALD but it may have finally clicked for me, to be honest- it actually moves quite quickly and is bags of fun. And yeah: Roger is superb in it.

    Yes, LALD proved that Roger could have pulled off a more serious Bond. Tom Mankiewicz wrote a a unique screenplay that worked well for him. Once again, Richard Maibaum made comments about Roger and LALD that proved that he wasn’t always right about Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 2023 Posts: 16,382
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Slightly random observation, but I decided to pop LALD on this evening, and I was kind of struck by how completely in control Roger is straight from the gate. The incredibly confident way he does humour, handling the danger, Bond's lovely arrogance in Harlem etc. When I was watching I was trying to imagine Lazenby doing it, as well he may have done if he'd hung on, and I just can't: Moore is just so far above him in terms of screen presence and exuding a sense of confidence and charisma. Picture him doing that first scene with Rosie: all of the nuance Roger is giving it would be killed stone dead.
    I've actually never been a massive fan of LALD but it may have finally clicked for me, to be honest- it actually moves quite quickly and is bags of fun. And yeah: Roger is superb in it.

    He may not be my favourite Bond, but I think he's also great in that scene, not just Lazenby, but I just can't imagine any Bond actor doing that, Connery maybe? But the others like Dalton, Craig or Brosnan, I just can't, maybe because it's written with Moore in mind.

    I can imagine Lazenby in the Brosnan Bond films though.

    You know, I can imagine Craig in that hotel room Rosie scene: his Bond has a similar sardonic, taking-the-mick way about him- the way almost every line he’s getting the better of her (and then of course she has the lovely line about being warned about him). Maybe not as full-on wink-to-the-camera as Roger, but I think he could play it well. The ‘close shave’ scene even reminds me of it in a way.

    Funnily enough, as you mention Brosnan: I tried to watch GoldenEye the other night and had a similar epiphany: I just wasn’t enjoying Brosnan’s Bond at all. He’s just quite paper thin (I don’t mean physically!) in it: kind of going through the motions but not really giving any of that extra value you get from watching the Top Three Kings of Bond.
    I guess I can kind of imagine Lazenby in that film: his self-confidence would just about pull him through, but Pierce is doing a better job.
    peter wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Slightly random observation, but I decided to pop LALD on this evening, and I was kind of struck by how completely in control Roger is straight from the gate. The incredibly confident way he does humour, handling the danger, Bond's lovely arrogance in Harlem etc. When I was watching I was trying to imagine Lazenby doing it, as well he may have done if he'd hung on, and I just can't: Moore is just so far above him in terms of screen presence and exuding a sense of confidence and charisma. Picture him doing that first scene with Rosie: all of the nuance Roger is giving it would be killed stone dead.
    I've actually never been a massive fan of LALD but it may have finally clicked for me, to be honest- it actually moves quite quickly and is bags of fun. And yeah: Roger is superb in it.

    Funny @mtm — I had the exact experience as yours when I recently watched LALD… wrote about it somewhere on this site. Roger was absolutely in control.

    Oh really? Haha! Great minds! I’ll have to check it out.
    I was watching the New York arrival bit and thinking ‘wow, he’s fully starring in this- he’s filling the screen’, and it made me think how soon after OHMSS this was (obviously I know DAF was the most recent, but no one doubts Connery’s screen presence.
  • BT3366BT3366
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    mtm wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Slightly random observation, but I decided to pop LALD on this evening, and I was kind of struck by how completely in control Roger is straight from the gate. The incredibly confident way he does humour, handling the danger, Bond's lovely arrogance in Harlem etc. When I was watching I was trying to imagine Lazenby doing it, as well he may have done if he'd hung on, and I just can't: Moore is just so far above him in terms of screen presence and exuding a sense of confidence and charisma. Picture him doing that first scene with Rosie: all of the nuance Roger is giving it would be killed stone dead.
    I've actually never been a massive fan of LALD but it may have finally clicked for me, to be honest- it actually moves quite quickly and is bags of fun. And yeah: Roger is superb in it.

    He may not be my favourite Bond, but I think he's also great in that scene, not just Lazenby, but I just can't imagine any Bond actor doing that, Connery maybe? But the others like Dalton, Craig or Brosnan, I just can't, maybe because it's written with Moore in mind.

    I can imagine Lazenby in the Brosnan Bond films though.

    You know, I can imagine Craig in that hotel room Rosie scene: his Bond has a similar sardonic, taking-the-mick way about him- the way almost every line he’s getting the better of her (and then of course she has the lovely line about being warned about him). Maybe not as full-on wink-to-the-camera as Roger, but I think he could play it well. The ‘close shave’ scene even reminds me of it in a way.

    Funnily enough, as you mention Brosnan: I tried to watch GoldenEye the other night and had a similar epiphany: I just wasn’t enjoying Brosnan’s Bond at all. He’s just quite paper thin (I don’t mean physically!) in it: kind of going through the motions but not really giving any of that extra value you get from watching the Top Three Kings of Bond.
    I guess I can kind of imagine Lazenby in that film: his self-confidence would just about pull him through, but Pierce is doing a better job.
    Interesting thought on Brosnan. A lot of his defenders have tried to make him sound original for being a hybrid Bond, taking the standout characteristics of his predecessors, but I've always argued it makes him more a jack of all trades and master of none if he doesn't improve upon what made them distinctive.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    From the trivia section on IMDb for 'The Naked Face'

    When Rod Steiger turned up on-set, the make-up people had to quickly scramble, because he had just had plastic surgery to hide his age, and the wounds were still fresh on his face.

    I often wonder if this was the inspiration for Roger Moore, to get some work done, between OP and AVTAK?
    Considering, that Rod Steiger had just gone under the knife, it's entirely possible Roger decided it was time too.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    I was sorry he did it, tbh. He's Roger Moore, he can do whatever he likes, obvs, but for me, I didn't think he needed it and he looked better before.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Ok, this probably has been posted before on this threat, but anyways, it had me laughing out loud. Valery remembers Roger, especially his reference to the unscripted kiss as to wether she could share the story or not.
    Amazing man.

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bond-girl-valerie-leon-roger-moore-sean-connery-up-front
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited September 2023 Posts: 3,789
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    Ok, this probably has been posted before on this threat, but anyways, it had me laughing out loud. Valery remembers Roger, especially his reference to the unscripted kiss as to wether she could share the story or not.
    Amazing man.

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bond-girl-valerie-leon-roger-moore-sean-connery-up-front

    Thanks for this.
    Actually, Roger did kissed her in The Persuaders, in the episode of The Long Goodbye, where she played the Space Queen.

    Just look at 46:36.....




  • BT3366BT3366
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    CommanderRoss wrote: »
    Ok, this probably has been posted before on this threat, but anyways, it had me laughing out loud. Valery remembers Roger, especially his reference to the unscripted kiss as to wether she could share the story or not.
    Amazing man.

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bond-girl-valerie-leon-roger-moore-sean-connery-up-front

    Thanks for this.
    Actually, Roger did kissed her in The Persuaders, in the episode of The Long Goodbye, where she played the Space Queen.

    Just look at 46:36.....




    Looks like Roger is sporting a wedding ring in that scene.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited October 2023 Posts: 4,629


    He looks just like his dad.

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