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In the context of the post-Craig era Dirscu isn't actually an unusual choice as such. He's a favourite candidate of mine, personally. Ok, maybe the fact that he's black sets him apart from the other Bond actors, but so what? It helps that during Daniel's tenure the likes of Idris Elba were rumoured for the role, so I think fans and audiences have become a bit more used to a strong, non-white actor potentially playing the part. Like Elba, Dirisu is a solid actor and has displayed all the traits in Gangs of London that Craig's Bond had - the raw masculinity, similar physicality etc.
Insofar as these traits are there with all the Bond actors to different extent, this puts him in a good position. That said perhaps they'll want something different from the next Bond, something that Dirisu might not be able to give them. I've said in the past my only reservation with Dirisu is that he might be too similar to Craig in his interpreation of the role, or at least his general screen presence. It's only speculation, and no one at this point knows, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dirisu is passed for a potentially more left field choice - an actor who maybe doesn't quite ooze that same type of raw masculinity or is quite as physically built as he is, or indeed is in some way different as a candidate, but still nonetheless embodies James Bond.
I think you're right about one not 'oozing the same type of raw masculinity': I think there's room to play Bond in a similar tone to Craig's Bond and pretty much in the same world tonally (although I would expect plenty of the details to change) but to play him slightly differently. To be honest I could see Disiru doing that; I don't think he's quite the same guy. If they'd got Tom Hardy in then I'd be more worried, as I think he really would play it too close to Craig's.
I'd say Pattinson was a very different Batman/Wayne to Bale though, and is often an example I use to back up this point. His Bruce Wayne doesn't have the faux playboy aspect of his character anyway, but he's much more of a loner, at times uncomfortable and awkward around others in a way Bale's Wayne never was.
Even the way Pattinson uses his voice as Batman is different. Bale had his growly voice for Batman and his regular one as Wayne. Pattinson's Batman does have a growly tone when he speaks to Penguin and fights the gang at the beginning, but when he's speaking to Catwoman or Gordon his voice is more whispery, not actually a million miles away from his Bruce Wayne one. It's a really subtle but unique acting decision. Pattinson's physicality and how he moves is different to Bale too (there's much more use of how he moves his eyes, his body language etc).
I get what you mean though. All the actors were still recognisably Batman in how they played the role and there are similarities in their performances even with these different interpretations. It'll be the same with Bond.
Tom Hardy's an actor who makes a lot of unique acting decisions though. I don't know how he, or any other actor would approach Bond. Same for Dirisu really. I can just imagine that being a factor. But I don't know for sure.
Again, as Dirisu said about himself, the shorter the odds become, the less likely it is to happen. I do think there's always an element that each Bond actor is in some way a 'left field' choice for whatever reason, and it's not always a case where people should necessarily be able to imagine them perfectly within the role before they actually do it. But then maybe it's just me and I tend to be sceptical when I think something's too good to be true, haha. Like I said he's a top choice of mine.
Isn't that what many are critical of, trying to repeat the unrepeatable? Why not have someone who brings his own type of presence? His own originality. If it's ok to be critical of wanting a second coming of Connery or Dalton, isn't it hypocritical to want a second coming of Daniel Craig? I mean, I get it, the guy was great. But who says we should be looking for the same type when thinking about the best man for the job? What makes someone the best man for the job, anyway? Valid questions, I think. Why not list qualities we think make for the best contender? Would that be interesting?
Yes that's very true, I would like for it to be a surprise; not just when I find out who it is but for it to be a surprise when I see how they play Bond for the first time on opening night. It would be a nice feeling if they picked someone who I couldn't quite be sure of how they'll do it.
I don't think Pierce surprised anyone who had ever seen him in anything before when they saw GE. No slight on him, he's what was needed at the time and he did a great job, but the movies are in a different place now and can do something interesting and fresh.
For example, I'd love it if they could find, from the get go, a balance between the cinematic version of Bond, and the literary one. More so than with Daniel Craig, who I think started with the right balance and then was waddling in the high tightrope for the rest of his tenure, thanks to some heavy dose of bad writing.
We'll see. When people started talking about ATJ, I, for one, thought immediately that he is sort of a chameleon, and could surprise the hell out of us, possibly. Many strayed to think he could be another Pierce Brosnan; and then some thought he could be another Daniel Craig. And that's it, he could probably be reminiscent of both, or better still, bring something entirely new and original to the proverbial table.
That being said, we don't need to go to the extreme of improbability to then be surprised. For that, one would get Benedict Cumberbatch or Sopé Dìrísù, because they have some traits that could fit the character, and many, many that wouldn't. Could they surprise us? Maybe. But right now, I don't want THAT much of a surprise. But that's just me, of course.
You make good points there.
But I think with a role like James Bond, which an actor really is able to sink their teeth into, work alongside the producers to help shape the kind of Bond you want to be and create a tenure for themselves that they can hopefully be proud of, Aaron Taylor-Johnson would prosper. He seems like a very creative guy and seems good with collaboration as he's worked with his wife twice on Nowhere Boy and A Million Little Pieces and from interviews about directors he's worked with he seems to enjoy working with them.
I think he'd be great, and these rumours could 100% be complete bull but I for one would be on board with his James Bond.
They've been keen on keeping the DNA of Fleming's Bond alive in fairness (I for one got a heavy sense of it with Craig's Bond in SF), but it's always going to be a case where the cinematic Bond is slightly different to Fleming's. Still, there's plenty of qualities to Fleming's Bond which might be cool seeing adapted that we haven't necessarily seen before.
I do think the next Bond actor will be a more chameleonic actor than what we've seen in the past. All of my personal picks, including Sope, will have to adapt their natural accents for Bond in some way. Also, after Craig one gets the sense they'll be looking for a high quality of acting talent, which might give us someone who approaches the role like this.
It's tricky for us as fans to discuss this with any degree of certainty. None of us are casting agents, or at least not for this role. I think a major reason why Dirisu is so popular on these forums is because we can more easily see him playing Bond than other actors. Obviously he's been in Gangs of London and was even in that training video that Greg Williams shot. It showcases his physicality and intensity, and what better way of doing this than being in something shot by the official Bond photographer? Even when watching the trailer for Mr. Malcom's List a chunk of us think, "look, he can do an upper class English accent and act refined. He's the next Bond!" I certainly did to an extent. In a weird way in our minds he's already auditioned for us.
The truth is we don't know how he'd portray James Bond in the context of an actual audition. There's much more to the role than what even Dirisu has conveyed, talented as he is. It might be the case where another actor who hasn't quite had the same types of roles will come along and give a performance that resonates more with producers.
Thanks @Univex You do it more :)
That settles it then. You heard it here first, everybody.
But I can get behind ATJ as Bond. No problem.
My sentiments exactly.
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Yep, excellent post.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/aaron-taylor-johnson-reportedly-next-105030342.html
With Craig when he was cast someone (back on the old IMDb forum days) measaged me saying Craig would be like Dalton…. And for his first 2 films he was but with Johnson I have no idea what he will bring to the film if anything … I just don’t have a solid beat on him period
Gaining weight or just reverberating in an echo chamber?
My money's on the latter. It all goes back to that Instagram post, and somehow went from "he had a great screentest" to "he's been cast." Plus, it's Yahoo. They haven't been reputable in ages (case in point here).
Haha! It could be. But no one knows though.