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Connery and GF are a close second.
Are you my spirit animal?
Edit: Sean and Tim are easily my favourites, as well as Goldfinger and TLD, LTK high up there as well.
Just gonna quickly say guys, there’s a chance you might not like who they pick. As the website says, it’s not the end of the world. Just wanted to say that because I’ve noticed some comments are heading down the bitter/bullying route as opposed to here’s why he shouldn’t be Bond argument.
Guess what? Bad films aren’t going to be making a lot of money if the word of mouth on them isn’t that strong. Word of mouth on Argylle/Uncle/Dark Tower was incredibly poor; they weren’t great films and they didn’t connect with audiences. But that doesn’t take away from Cavil or Elba’s popularity. If you want proof, look at their presence on Social Media; that’s more than enough.
Not quite, he can't fly, especially not when you're the pilot.
Yeah but Bond is a feature film, not a social media meme or TikTok short. Social media popularity doesn't mean box office popularity. Completely different worlds.
You also don't mention the fee. A HUGE FACTOR! If you were the Bond producers and you knew Henry Cavill's last two spy films tanked... would you say "yeah, have 80 to 100 million dollars for making four Bond films, Henry."
Would you be prepared to pay Henry Cavill in the region of 100 million dollars for four Bond films knowing his box office track record is poor? Why would you think he's deserving of such an amount?
It's reasonable for Eon to say "no, you're not worth it, Henry." I would say yes, that is a reasonable response. And the same could apply to past candidates that may have overpriced their value. I would hazard a guess Hugh Jackman and Clive Owen wanted too much money and Eon said no. Just my gut feeling.
James Bond is not just a pretty face, we need an actor.
STOP WITH HENRY CAVILL FOR BOND!!
:-S
First of all, you and I don't work for EON. Therefore none of us know what they're thinking with regards to casting the next Bond; even beyond that, Pierce Brosnan wasn't exactly known to have a string of successes prior to Mrs. Doubfire and even then that was followed by the critical and financial failure of Love Affair, yet he still ended up being cast in the role. So throwing around an actors previous failures means nothing ultimately; if EON see's potential in a candidate, they'll go for him no matter what.
Second you're operating under the assumption that I want Cavill for Bond. I don't. Am I a fan of his? Yes absolutely I think he was a great Superman, but I'd prefer an unknown actor for the most part (or somebody whose work I'm not familiar with), merely I was responding to your claims that both Henry Cavill and Idris Elba are not popular; which I still think is inaccurate.
Perhaps there might be someone in the background that becomes a frontrunner and then is cast?
I do have my doubts they'll cast ATJ, not only is his voice high pitched, he has a rather boyish persona, but he seems pretty busy with a potential franchise and other projects, same goes with Mescal.
If Henry Cavill is so popular, why hasn't he had any successful films when starring as the lead? After Superman, obviously.
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If Henry were so popular after Man of Steel (women were saying he's so handsome etc - some men saying it too)... as seen on YouTube messages in this video:
... it stands to reason The Man From Uncle should have been a hit! Man of Steel (2012) made 291 million dollars at US/Canada domestic box office. The Man From Uncle, (2015) made 45 million dollars at the US/Canada domestic box office.
It was a major flop.
My point is the fanbase that supported Cavill in MOS didn't come out to support him in Uncle or any other feature film. For all the many "Henry is so handsome, so great yadda yadda yadda" comments on YouTube and elsewhere on social media, it never translated to box office when Cavill was not playing Superman. And that's not my bashing Cavill. Chris Hemsworth has zero box office appeal when not playing Thor. This is just the way it panned out in the 21st century. Film stars with some moderate to large fanbases were made obsolete by the internet, by social media. However, these non existent box office film stars (Cavill, Hemsworth, Pine, Farrell, Owen, Worthington etc) all demand big fees. *That's the grift.* I'm just telling the truth. It's a grift.
If Barbara Broccoli is dumb enough to pay Cavill or Elba or Hiddlestone or whoever a ridiculous amount when she knows they are not moderate box office then Cavill and Elba etc will chance their luck. I don't believe Hugh Jackman would ever turn down Bond if the offer was amazing. But it wasn't. Barbara Broccoli isn't that dumb. She knew it was cheaper to cast Craig. But the key difference is Daniel Craig wasn't Superman or Wolverine or a big tv star. He could never say to Eon "I'll do Bond but pay me 10 million for Bond 21."
Assuming that is accurate I'm surprised he got paid that much. I would have thought It would be around 1.5 million dollars. Seems he was overpaid but just my opinion! But if we use that figure as a good entry point price for a first Bond film appearance, I can't imagine Cavill, Elba, Hardy, Hiddleston, Madden doing Bond 26 for 3.2 million dollars. If Kraven does well I can't imagine Johnson doing Bond 26 for 3.2.million. My guess is Cavill and Elba (arguably too old now), Murphy (I don't see any Bond in him at all) etc would want 10 million dollars and I just can't see Eon going with any established actor. And if Kraven is a hit ATJ fee will shoot up so maybe Aidan Turner or someone less well known will get the part?
I suppose the counter argument is Amazon are so wealthy they can pay a big fee to whoever and it won't matter. If Amazon want, say, Jacob Elordi, and his agent said "my client is so popular on social media right now so he wants 10 million to do Bond 26" - I guess Amazon could put pressure on Eon to cast Elordi. He seems to have the boyish, 'handsome but non-threatening' look Babs might like.
So yeah, at the risk of contradicting myself it's possible Amazon could put pressure on Eon to cast a guy for a larger fee than Craig's CR fee 3.2 million (adding the cost of inflation from 2005 to now) however, my gut feeling is Amazon will view Cavill and Elba as not worth their asking price due to a bad box office record. Elordi or someone similar would be relatively new with less negative box office baggage.
Perfect we shall sell the story to the sun and make millions millions i say
I mean, having success with Superman is all he really needs to be popular. And Witcher had a pretty solid cult following.
Like I said, often with bombs there are many other factors beyond the lead actor. In fact I'd go as far to say that beyond an Ezra Miller situation the lead actor has very little to do with these things. The Man From UNCLE for instance suffered from a lack of effective marketing, not because people don't like Henry Cavill. Often very good films bomb.
Obviously we haven't had a situation where the new Bond actor has been quite on Cavill's level of stardom/would demand a salary into the 100 million range from the get go, but it would depend I suppose. If EON really wanted such an actor/saw potential (and remember, Craig and Brosnan had starred in a fair few financially unsuccessful films) then I guess they'd try to get him. Perhaps offer him a cut of the box office gross?
It's hypothetical though/likely won't happen even with a similar actor, but still.
Quote:
Heughan did audition for the role several films back—Bond 21, but as for the talk he will be the next James Bond, he told Parade.com a while back that those are nothing but rumors. “Absolutely rumors,” he said.
He's in his 40s so maybe not the ideal age. Not much media hype for him.
Okay, please explain how decisions cratered the series? This makes no sense. Nothing has been cratered.
You may not like the films, which you obviously don't, but nothing got cratered.
The films were wildly successful.
Re: Blofeld: it's well recorded that it was MGW who came up with the Blofeld angle, not BB.
I think the series will go on just fine, but, I wonder, why don't you stop watching the new films and just enjoy the ones you do?
And, @bjmdds , you didn't answer my questions. Does Broccoli cast in a vacuum? And what are her rotten casting choices?
And have you done a survey on why worldwide audiences go to Bond films? Do you know why people in Banff go and see them? In Dubai? In Ohio? I think they go and see for entertainment...
You seem to believe all that you post and pass it off as matters of fact.
@peter clearly pointed out some of your previous comments were false.
What’s the big hang up 19 years on?
Did they not reply to your original outrburst?
The obsession you have with Craig and Broccoli is unhealthy. Most people would’ve moved on with their lives by now.
Well, you have your opinions. I wholly disagree with them and find them presumptuous (that you know what the producers are thinking), and you’re ignoring reality: Craig and Wishaw were wildly celebrated, the themes of mother-son relationships blew the lid off the box office with Skyfall; if M:I floats your boat more than Bond, that doesn’t make it a universal truth, and; whether BB casts in a vacuum IS relevant because you seem to blame her for everything (and then presume she’s re-writing Fleming in her mold, which is utter nonsense).
On a side note, you definitely come on strong, with a disregard for other members here. Some of us did enjoy Craig and his films. Others liked some, and not others, and some flat out didn’t like them at all. But there’s usually- *usually*- a respectful discussion that takes place. But to immediately come on here with a childish name for Craig is pretty insulting. Just an FYI.
Personally the Brosnan years weren’t for me. I liked bits and pieces of those films, and I didn’t always enjoy his portrayal. But, I didn’t hold Brosnan and EoN at fault. Those were the films they needed to make at that time for a worldwide audience to enjoy. Unfortunately for me, they just didn’t suit my tastes.
But to hold a grudge against the producers for making the best possible films, at that time? Or to insult Brosnan because I didn’t like his portrayal would be strange. In fact, I always say: Brosnan was the right man at the right time…
So, I hope you’ll soften your edges @bjmdds and discuss differences with respect for yourself, and others.