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"Play it again, Sam..." - The John Barry Appreciation Thread

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Amazing insight and music @Revelator
    very appreciated.

  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Excellent find, @Revelator . I did not know such a suite existed.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    This is great, thanks. I had only heard the abridged 1972 version previously.

    It is amazing how much the 1972 gunbarrel sounds like OP, and also how some chords of it anticipate the LALD score, of all things.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Cutty Sark (1995 Remaster)

    Superb.
  • Bond_ScoresBond_Scores UK
    edited April 9 Posts: 93
    I know that '007 and Counting' from DAF is a favourite cue of many people here. It's been sampled a surprising number of times in electronic music. I remember hearing this wonderful track on Mary-Anne Hobbs' Radio 1 show many years ago and it came on shuffle the other day:

    Wagon Christ - 'Shadows'



    This is another beauty with the sample, at the peak of 90's 'trip hop':

    Grantby - 'Timber'



    Grantby was obviously a Barry aficionado. Note the bassline to '007' that creeps in halfway through.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    Thanks for sharing, I'd heard the second one but not the first one.
  • Bond_ScoresBond_Scores UK
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    Here's another one:



    Unbelievably, John Barry doesn't receive any credit on the Jakatta album for this track. The strings are newly recorded with a very minor tweak to the harmony, but I'm surprised the lawyers didn't come calling!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @Bond_Scores
    Wow, sir, you've certainly done a lot of digging here. I'm happy with this find. I love the music. And yes, how come this didn't result in lawsuits?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    As someone who's reflecting on life, (while being prune to depression), this track always puts me into reflection. Not happy, not sad. It's simple, and great to listen to when studying. I wish it was talked about more. One of my Barry favorites.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Hey @MaxCasino , which song is that (Roll Dance, perhaps)? The YT video does not load in my country.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    zebrafish wrote: »
    Hey @MaxCasino , which song is that (Roll Dance, perhaps)? The YT video does not load in my country.

    I can take a look in a bit.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited October 9 Posts: 4,341
    I believe 2024 will be remembered as the year that film (and generally music-) composers started to become redundant. Listen to this snippet of a track and tell me if this is John Barry:

    Chasing Horizons

    This piece was generated by me, a person that has no musical training whatsoever, in 15 seconds, using a sophisticated Music-AI called Udio, simply by typing a number of prompts: brassy, john barry, melodic, uplifting, sunny, energized, james bond, film score, soundtrack for a spy movie, bombastic, John Barry

    As much as I am fascinated by this, I think it will have enormous repercussions for the music industry. Are we about to witness the era of AI-composed and AI-arranged soundtracks for movies? This is so much cheaper than hiring a musician.

    And it does not have to stop there. Music streaming services may start to feed us with in-house AI-generated content, diluting the original hand-made music, so that the royalties paid out to human artists decrease even more and faster (and a rising share of listening time stays with the company).

    I have a sudden urge to go and listen to a live band, just for detoxification...

    (if you want to hear the opinion of a professional musician about where this is heading, check out Rick Beato's YT channel).

  • SatoriousSatorious Brushing up on a little Danish
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    Udio has clearly trained it's AI on a few Barry soundtracks, I stumbled on to it when someone created a few Depeche Mode sounding tracks - similar down to the style, lyrics, even the lead singer's voice. Whether they genuinely have the permission to do this with copyrighted material - well I'll leave that to the lawyers to decide - but it all felt incredibly shady to me.

    I also have to say that whilst this piece might follow the general structure and orchestration of a John Barry track - much like the Depeche Mode demo I heard - it feels utterly soulless when compared to the genuine article - sure it might be 70-75% of the way there - but so much important nuance is missing - the devil is in the details.

    This said - knock yourself out and create as many faux imitations as you want whilst you still can. I see all of this being heavily regulated in the near future.
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