Lost but now found! The Unreleased Bond Music Thread!

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited May 25 Posts: 16,383
    Love it! Another bit of excellent work. You're doing the Lord's work in restoring to us these nuggets of The Greatest Film Ever Made.

    Really looking forward to Pegasus Disappears- that's a lovely little cue.
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    Bravo sir 🫡
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @mattjoes You are making this seasoned Barry fanatic very, VERY happy! Thank you.
  • bcaloubcalou France
    Posts: 63
    Great work, thank you! I thought the sax was quite good for a virtual instrument.

    I love how Barry likes to conclude a lot of his cues with the same kind of low, sustained string chord :D
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    bcalou wrote: »
    I love how Barry likes to conclude a lot of his cues with the same kind of low, sustained string chord :D

    Yes, I love that chord! :)

    May I ask, after Pegasus, which I'm very much looking forward to, do you have any plans to look at the cue where the airship is approaching the bridge at the climax of the film? It's maybe my favourite cue in the film, although I can imagine it might be pretty challenging as it's got the full force of the orchestra going.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    Thanks everyone.

    bcalou wrote: »
    I love how Barry likes to conclude a lot of his cues with the same kind of low, sustained string chord :D
    Classic Barry touch.

    mtm wrote: »
    May I ask, after Pegasus, which I'm very much looking forward to, do you have any plans to look at the cue where the airship is approaching the bridge at the climax of the film?
    Yes.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    Yes.

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  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
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    on the money again mattjoes,well done and congrats .will you by any chance at a later date be looking at the short cue where zorin declares to gogal that he no longer considers himself a kgb agent.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    mtm wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    Yes.

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    morcarvic wrote: »
    on the money again mattjoes,well done and congrats .will you by any chance at a later date be looking at the short cue where zorin declares to gogal that he no longer considers himself a kgb agent.
    Thank you. I don't have plans to work on that one at the moment. I have a limited selection of cues from the film that I want to reconstruct, and the sinister motif in that cue is already represented in the album, in the track Bond Escapes Roller.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    When Bond gives his winning ticket to Moneypenny at Ascot, is that the motif from KGB Pipeline being played with the Bond vamp or is it something else? It's a tricky one to make out.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    mtm wrote: »
    When Bond gives his winning ticket to Moneypenny at Ascot, is that the motif from KGB Pipeline being played with the Bond vamp or is it something else? It's a tricky one to make out.

    No, it's a different melody. Hard to make out, but I think it's two alternating notes. A-G-A-G-A (pause) A-G-A, then repeat 3 more times. Played on flute and clarinet just like KGB Pipeline.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yes I'm sure you're right; I think there's a nice sinister slow drum beat in there too or something like that. It's so full of nice little varied moments like that, I'd love a full score release.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited May 27 Posts: 7,021
    Yes, very rich score. One of my favorites. I've actually got most of the unreleased music of the film transcribed, but for now I just want to work on what I think are the most interesting cues. It is perhaps an exercise in futility, as it's possible the full score will be released in the near future. If it's not, I might do more tracks than my current plan. Referencing another John Barry-scored film, I feel like John Dunbar in Dances with Wolves, visiting the (musical) frontier before official re-releases make it disappear. It's just that doing this is very enjoyable. You get "inside" the music in a way that doesn't happen when you merely listen to it.

    But, of course, there are other scores less likely to get expanded releases. I've also got to complete my own fan-made Bond mini-soundtrack for an imaginary film.

    Pegasus Disappears is coming along nicely.
  • chrisesqetcchrisesqetc London
    Posts: 46
    Hi all - while @mattjoes continues to treat us with his excellent releases, I’ve been working on some custom art for the James Bond series. While I am a big fan of much of the official artwork - and also many of the great custom covers created by others over the years - I wanted to try and introduce a consistent style across the collection.

    For these covers, I have used the 4K Blu-Ray editions for most of the Daniel Craig films from Casino Royale to Spectre as my guide. For the earlier films in the series, I referred to the most recent Blu-Ray covers. Although some of these were less than ideal (Licence To Kill's cover, for example, did Dalton dirty...), I do have a fondness for a few, like The World Is Not Enough, which evokes a Man on Fire vibe. I also created covers for the unofficial films Casino Royale (1967) and Never Say Never Again in a similar vibe, as their Blu-Ray covers were particularly lacking.

    I did toy with making some versions based on the Blu-Ray steelbooks with artwork from the main title sequences. Might come back to this at some point.

    When it came to the video games and other specials, the resources were more limited, but I did my best. I might revisit these to create a tone more aligned with the films in the future.

    I hope you enjoy the artwork. This is my first time creating covers like this, so if you spot any errors or have any feedback, please let me know!



    Dr. No (1962)
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    From Russia With Love (1963)
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    Goldfinger (1964)
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    Thunderball (1965)
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    Casino Royale (1967)
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    You Only Live Twice (1967)
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    On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)
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    Diamonds Are Forever (1971)
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    Live And Let Die (1973)
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    The Man With The Golden Gun (1974)
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    The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)
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    Moonraker (1979)
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    For Your Eyes Only (1981)
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    Octopussy (1983)
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    Never Say Never Again (1983)
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    A View To A Kill (1984)
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    The Living Daylights (1987)
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    Licence To Kill (1989)
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    Goldeneye (1995)
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    Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)
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    The World Is Not Enough (1999)
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    Die Another Day (2002)
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    Casino Royale (2006)
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    Quantum Of Solace (2008)
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    Skyfall (2012)
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    Spectre (2015)
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    No Time To Die (2021)
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    Goldeneye 007 (Video Game) (1997)
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    Tomorrow Never Dies (Video Game) (1999)
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    The World Is Not Enough (Video Game) (2000)
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    007 Racing (2000)
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    Agent Under Fire (2001)
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    Nightfire (2002)
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    Everything Or Nothing (2004)
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    Goldeneye Rogue Agent (2004)
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    From Russia With Love (Video Game) (2005)
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    Quantum Of Solace (Video Game) (2008)
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    Blood Stone (2010)
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    Goldeneye Reloaded (2010)
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    007 Legends (2012)
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    The Sound Of 007 Live From The Royal Albert Hall (2022)
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    007 Road To A Million (2023)
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  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited June 3 Posts: 7,021
    Nice work.

    Feedback:
    - Some of the credits text can be hard to read because it runs into white parts of the background images. Maybe some shadow in those cases?
    - Instead of the TND game cover, you posted the TND film cover again.
    - For TWINE, I think Don Veca composed the PS score, and Neil Baldwin the N64 score.
    - The Nightfire score was composed by Steve Duckworth and Jeff Tymoschuk.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    I will be releasing three more cues in the next days. Hopefully by the end of the week!
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
    Posts: 95
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I will be releasing three more cues in the next days. Hopefully by the end of the week!

    Any chance you'll ever release the mystery cue from No Time To Die that shows up as Bond is driving the plane to Felix's boat and also the plane to Safin's island? :D I would really appreciate it!
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    I will be releasing three more cues in the next days. Hopefully by the end of the week!

    You really do spoil us, @mattjoes. Thanks so much for everything you do for the Bond music community :)
  • bcaloubcalou France
    Posts: 63
    Great work @chrisesqetc !
    I don't like the official Blu-Ray covers too much... (what happened with some of the actor's face... !)
    But this is a great job at making everything more cohesive, especially with the Craig films.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I will be releasing three more cues in the next days. Hopefully by the end of the week!

    Any chance you'll ever release the mystery cue from No Time To Die that shows up as Bond is driving the plane to Felix's boat and also the plane to Safin's island? :D I would really appreciate it!
    That's not in my plans, but I'll let you know if I change my mind.
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
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    A virtual instruments reconstruction of the cue from A View to a Kill heard when Tibbett finds Pegasus has disappeared from the stable.

    A View to a Kill: Pegasus Disappears - Download here:
    https://mega.nz/folder/8Zx02KpD#7a6hUbxvANUvLsxyG7T8Xg

    My music reconstructions will return tomorrow with another cue!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,383
    Brilliant as always, looking forward to tomorrow's!
  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
    edited June 16 Posts: 95
    mattjoes wrote: »
    mattjoes wrote: »
    I will be releasing three more cues in the next days. Hopefully by the end of the week!

    Any chance you'll ever release the mystery cue from No Time To Die that shows up as Bond is driving the plane to Felix's boat and also the plane to Safin's island? :D I would really appreciate it!
    That's not in my plans, but I'll let you know if I change my mind.

    Thanks :x
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    Posts: 7,021
    There is beauty, there is ugliness... and there is death.

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    A virtual instruments reconstruction of the cue from The Spy Who Loved Me heard when Bond meets Stromberg.
    It's an orchestral rendition of Chopin's Nocturne No. 8.

    The Spy Who Loved Me: Bond Meets Stromberg (Nocturne No. 8) - Download here:
    https://mega.nz/folder/VVAH1LCR#qx-6xAMWvhUPp-FlP3C5pg

    My music reconstructions will return in:
    A View to a Kill: May Day Escapes
    (I was planning to release it closely after these last two tracks,
    but it'll take longer to finesse, so it'll come a little later.)
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,179
    Beautiful, @mattjoes! I learned to appreciate Chopin because of this moment in TSWLM. I love what you have done with that cue. Thank you.
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
    Posts: 60
    welcome additions again mattjoes,chopin was a surprise had it in my head you were going to do three cues on the run all from avtak.
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
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    On a seperate theme from above ,think i've just come across a missing section of "Blofeld's plot" , okay i'ts minor (approx 7 or 8 secs)but i'ts not on the 2003 track 19 album edit and ifeel it could and should have been, given the length. So the bit i'm talking about is right after irma bunt says "something special for the holy night celebrations" We get the next first phrase of music on the cut to bond making his first attempt to leave the cable car winch room(approx 4 to 7 secs) on the album track but not the next (7 or 8 secs of essentially the prior notes but performed a register lower.) making this bit unique in the film version but cut from the album edit. Assuming you're following what i'm getting at does anyone have some thoughts of agreement or disagreement?
  • mattjoesmattjoes Julie T. and the M.G.'s
    edited June 23 Posts: 7,021
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Beautiful, @mattjoes! I learned to appreciate Chopin because of this moment in TSWLM. I love what you have done with that cue. Thank you.
    morcarvic wrote: »
    welcome additions again mattjoes,chopin was a surprise had it in my head you were going to do three cues on the run all from avtak.
    You're welcome. It's one of my favorite cues from the film, so I felt particularly motivated to work on it. I suspect it was specifically arranged for the film rather than being library music.

    I'm on AVTAK once again, working on the aforementioned May Day Escapes plus another cue, one of the highlights of the score as far as I'm concerned.

    morcarvic wrote: »
    On a seperate theme from above ,think i've just come across a missing section of "Blofeld's plot" , okay i'ts minor (approx 7 or 8 secs)but i'ts not on the 2003 track 19 album edit and ifeel it could and should have been, given the length. So the bit i'm talking about is right after irma bunt says "something special for the holy night celebrations" We get the next first phrase of music on the cut to bond making his first attempt to leave the cable car winch room(approx 4 to 7 secs) on the album track but not the next (7 or 8 secs of essentially the prior notes but performed a register lower.) making this bit unique in the film version but cut from the album edit. Assuming you're following what i'm getting at does anyone have some thoughts of agreement or disagreement?
    Yes, that bit is indeed missing.

    In the film, it is followed by a suspenseful section on trumpets and brass chords, which then reoccurs another time, but is only heard once in the album track, between 2:17 and 2:35. I'm unsure as to how much of the music repetition in the scene was recorded like that vs. being achieved through editing. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the track had actually been recorded like that, since we know the music was edited down for the 2003 album (for instance, the longer ending of the main theme), obviously to make room for more interesting musical material at the expense of repetition.
  • bcaloubcalou France
    Posts: 63
    Great work @mattjoes, nice to hear that Chopin piece!

    I'm not a fan of every musical choices in TSWLM, but Hamlish could have use any classical recording here and he choosed to arrange this piece specifically for the movie instead.
    Bond composers have always been very involved in their work, I think, which make the series so interesting musically.
    I did not even know the original piece was played only on piano until this day, so thank you!
  • bcaloubcalou France
    Posts: 63
    I'm so glad to finally share this with you! My attempt at recreating all the incidental music missing from FYEO soundtrack, one of my favourite Bond scores. Hope you like it.



    0:00 Moscow

    0:18 Stinger

    0:28 Sleigh Ride
    In the movie there is a "suspense" guitar chord at the end of the track. It was not on the sheet music so I left it out (which suited me well because I wouldn't know how to make a virtual guitar sound good). Maybe it was added later in the movie production?

    2:01 Ferrara Killed
    In the movie there is a sound effect associated to the Dove (heard right before the transition Corfu). Once again it was not on the sheet music so I left it out.

    2:46 On the Terrace

    3:44 Dove to Warehouse
    The Bouzouki at the start was extracted with AI from the very small portion officially released, which can be heard at the start of Sub Vs. Sub on the CD

    4:41 Divers Approach
    Only two short extracts are heard in the movie. Apparently the whole track sounded too much like another movie, I can't figure out which one ;). The final, dissonant chord is not heard in the underwater scenes, but it was repurposed for Bond falling off the cliff during the climax.

    5:24 Inside the Monastery
    The download link below contains a version with a transition to the rest of the cue (part 2 of St. Cyril's Monastery on the CD). One of the most underrated Bond Theme renditions ever.

    5:57 Raid on St. Cyril's
    I re-used the "pom pom" ostinato from the released track "St. Cyril's Monastery".

    Download here: https://mega.nz/file/seMkWSAK#yzZvU7VmV-bMU9O5Zp32HCtcljawk32CLgYSHUj0xiM

    The full score published by Neumaton music (https://neumation-music.com/products/bill-conti-for-your-eyes-only-in-full-score) helped me enormously to achieve this. These tracks feature way more instruments that what is possible to hear in the movie mix. I can't recommend this book enough and I hope other Bond scores will be released in sheet music form.

    But the longest part was actually finding the right virtual instruments (thankfully Musescore 4 has great ones), closely listening to the movie source and trying one bazillion of settings to get the final mix right. It can never be as good as the real thing, but I hope I dit it justice.
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