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Yeah I don't mind the Italian thing, I do think she'd have been better played by a Brit though.
I love Green in the role and I do think she's great with Craig, but I'll give you one for free:
Lara Pulver. One of the best Bond girls that never was, for me. She'd have made a wonderful Vesper.
Same age as Green, too.
Amazon co-owns Bond through their purchase of MGM so I don’t think EON can circumvent Amazon in that way. Amazon may have passed completely on Othello or Amazon is willing to put up some money if other investors can be found or EON wants the ability to shop the film around to other studios for certain concessions like a guaranteed theatrical release.
“This has teeth”
Yeah that's a cracking suggestion, I can see her doing it brilliantly. Very good with witty repartee too - lots of that in her famous Sherlock role.
Yep, sold.
I wasn't sure at first; but you know, why not, could be fun.
Yes, but Amazon doesn't co-own Eon. Their films outside of Bond, they can go wherever they please.
That is why I'm suggesting they might have skipped over Amazon in the funding search as Bezos could have used Othello funding as a carrot at the end of a stick he could dangle up and down in exchange for more influence on the direction of Bond 26.
Ha, I read this article and had the same thought: Eon may be courting him as well.
All Quiet on the Western Front (2022)
Conclave (2024)
Oceans 14 (2026)
Bond 26 (2028)
True. Pulver on screen comes across as mercurial. Just like Green. Lol, not sure one can sleep with two eyes closed with women of such ilk around.
MI6 HQ reported at the time that Rose Byrne was cast as Vesper. I wouldnt give up Eva Green but an interesting what-if nevertheless.
https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=3234
They also looked at Rachel McAdams and Thandiwe Newton, plus Audrey Tautou and Cécile de France (but Tautou too associated with Da Vinci Code, and de France's English not up to scratch).
I'd have liked to have seen Newton do it I think.
Gonna be a hard trick to pull off when B26 will be released in Oct 2027.
Interesting. I don't know, Rose Byrne is gorgeous. But she always strikes me as a good girl type. Yeah, I agree with @mtm Newton would have nailed it. Yeah, maybe McAdams would have done something with it too.
I think Rose Byrne would've been closer to Fleming's Vesper, at least more accurate, and more convincing in terms of the character's description of being British, and probably an air of mystery and vulnerability too (in terms of aura), Green's, as much as she's great, I felt was a bit too abrasive or a bit confident towards Bond that her betrayal at the end didn't came off as surprising, because she had showed some red flags earlier (that thick make up, notwithstanding).
Vesper is definitely a quieter and less involved figure in the book at first, and very slowly opens up and becomes more involved with Bond and the wider plot as the book goes on, I feel. Film Vesper is definitely more prominent in the proceedings and has a little more agency (she is directly involved in what happens when Bond is cleaned out, for example, whereas she isn't in the book).
Brilliant, 12 months sooner than expected. :)
As for Eva, BB said that she wanted her in CR after seeing The Dreamers and Kingdom of Heaven and she apparently got the casting director to hassle Eva's agent with calls on a weekly basis. Craig himself said 'When she came in, there was no decision for me.' According to BB, Dan said 'Oh, we've got to have her' and that was it, he wasn't interested in anyone else getting the role. I agree with Daniel Craig, obvs.
Yeah, I think the film adapts those early scenes with Vesper quite well. It sticks to the principle of Bond behaving like a child while being this hardened professional sent out to do a job. The real difference is instead of having Bond overreact to the idea of a woman assisting him, he's just a slightly arrogant (but much more humorous) womaniser who isn't too thrilled with the idea of a bureaucratic Treasurer coming along, but is fine with it because Vesper is good looking. Not sure the viewers were crying out for a moody Daniel Craig Bond claiming women shouldn't be out in the field, or randomly calling Vesper a b*tch. Vesper being much more 'by the books' and dismissive of Bond and his ego initially is a much better decision as well as it highlights how their relationship changes throughout the film. It also gives us a bit of conflict when she refuses to give Bond more funds (on rewatches/knowing what Vesper's going through it's actually a scene that makes a lot of sense and even adds a bit to the film).
Sure. With a slightly different director.
Wow! Farmiga...another very bipolar type of actress. Lol, Craig's Bond had it coming.
In the film, it's different, even for example that I haven't read the book first, I could've easily guess what's coming and what will happen because she's very easy to read (in the film).
If you've read the book before and just re-reading it now, you can open the spoiler message, but don't if you're just reading it for the first time.
Up to where I am in the book, I'd argue Vesper is actually much more of a periphery character, Fleming is more involved with Leiter and Mathis. Apart from the scene in which they first meet, later when the Soviets attempt to kill Bond, and immediately after Bond wins again Le Chiffre, I don't recall her being present that much. Certainly not as much as she is in the film.
Yes, I think it's Fleming's way, as to how I view it personally, of creating a facade for Vesper that would devoid her of suspicions, the way of making her appear more innocent by making her a periphery as you said, like a Hitchcock thing, and for me, it worked, because for how she's not active in almost the majority of pages in the book, it would all come down to the fact that she's a traitor and she had all the plans calculated, so what we've seen in the first act is the opposite of the second act, and I didn't saw it coming when I've first read it.
Fleming made sure to appear her passive in the first majority of pages, then like "wait till the end, and it will shock you" kind of thing, it's a great tactic of subverting expectations.
Fleming knew how to build up an earlier scene that would all culminate in the ending and for the more shocking, see OHMSS, FRWL and YOLT.