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There were quite a few similarities between the two (for me anyway). TWINE came up short on a few of them. Quite a few of the unique ideas from TWINE get reused in SF (namely M and her villain connection, MI6 under attack). It feels like EON learned their lessons from TWINE when they decided to make SF. Mostly in themes and ideas.
Yes, thank you @RichardTheBruce that was my point.
I can’t comment on Aaron Pierre as I don’t know his work. Looks wise it’s not implausible to see him as Bond. He has a certain look about him.
Good to see you posting @Pierce2Daniel 😊
No thanks!
Hopefully there will NEVER be an ounce of Gen Z in an Bond film ever.
Haha, I tend to agree. 😄
I don’t even know what Gen Z in a Bond film would entail, lol?!! Sounds like someone is asking for fads or something? But fads come and go faster than at any other time in history, lol! Bond, like other films, simply needs to do what he does best, and the various generations will come.
Die Another Day comes to mind.
Can you explain? Are you saying DAD is a Gen Z film? If so, how?
DAD is a film with some strong ideas and was executed with many flaws, but what in it is Gen Z?
Just my personal observation, but Bond drinking Mojito, kiteboarding, some of his lines felt like he's trying to be youngster (but again, none of the lines in the film were good 😅), the use of lasers, and his cuban beach attire, Pierce was trying to be a youngster/boyish kind of thing in this film.
Gen Z were the ones who were born from late 1990s to 2010s and DAD is under that era.
Call me slow, but I’m still not understanding what you’re saying?
Mojito is a rum drink that some say was invented in the era of Pirates, others say it was African slaves in Cuba. But it’s a drink that’s hundreds of years old. Do Gen Z’ers only drink this cocktail?
Is being a Gen Z’er trying to look young/boyish? And isn’t Brosnan’s clothing based on his environment anyways? Like Connery wearing his pink sleeveless shirt and shorts and sand shoes in Thunderball?
Kiteboarding or parasailing is something I first saw in the 80s when I was a kid when my dad did it in Marco Island!
And the use of lasers? Goldfinger first did it in 1964, so how are lasers a Gen Z thing? I’m being serious in I’m not understanding how any of your examples are distinctly Gen Z (or how Skyfall doesn’t have anything Gen Z in it?)??
Bond #7 can send a TikTok to M. This needs to happen.
A young, stylish Bond won't need to vape and play video games. What makes him unique is he's above all that. If things like that are what will be expected of Bond 26, then we'll see him at dinner with the Bond girl, both of whom are ignoring each other because they'll be looking at their phones.
Speaking of possible Bond actors, I just recalled something about being a BIG fan of "The Equalizer" TV series, which was originally created as a star vehicle for George Lazenby before it was offered to Woodward by the Network. From what I read in the reviews, the movie version was received well, but the casting of Denzel was too outside model for me and I never saw either one or the Queen Latifha version. Looked like it lost it's very British roots to main character.
That's interesting, thanks for the trivia, @delfloria 🙂
Trivia?
I feel like we’re in the realms of fantasy now. What films have sequences like that which anyone likes?
Young people nowadays etc.
The Denzel ones are worth a watch: it’s not really the same thing, no, but very enjoyable action drama stuff. And it’s all about an old guy beating up youngsters, so all boomers should love it.
It’s not like we ever saw Bond wearing flares, or sporting sideburns or a digital watch in the 70s. That’d be ridiculous and dated. Same for the films jumping on some sort of popular movie trend. Wouldn’t have happened in the good old days, clearly.
No, I don't believe we'll see a vaping, video playing, ignoring his date for his phone Bond. But I also hope we don't see a Bond that self-consciously tries identify with the current generation. Age alone should be enough. I hope we don't see Bond drinking a Red Bull at breakfast. One of the things I didn't like about Higson's novel was his cues to modernize Bond. They felt like neon signs advertising Bond as modern. Unnecessary. Let Bond be that cool guy unconcerned by whatever is in vogue at the moment.
He can wear his designer suits, drive the latest car, keep time on a fabulous watch, but don't pander. I never wanted a Bond to be me like me. I wanted to be like him.
I can't really think of a good analogue to these two instances, however.
😂 Will he be lip-syncing to a pop song?
M: "Keep a low profile next time, Bond."
Perhaps Q can invent some EMP comms scrambler device that he uses next time someone is filming him...
B: "You won't be uploading that to TikTok."
Moneypenny walks in with her tablet showing a news article headline... MYSTERY HERO... SECRET SPY OR SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCER
Were such concerns warranted? You tell me.
Another big +1.
A lot of what’s been brought up have never been in a Bond film and will never be in a Bond film.
And I’m still waiting to read what Gen Z elements should have been in Skyfall, because, according to one poster, it’s now a dated film (my mind boggles). And I also don’t know why Mojitos and beach tops and lasers are considered Gen Z to others (they used DAD as an example).
Either way I don’t think Bond will ever turn into whatever the latest flash in the pan is. They may take elements from contemporary stories/films, pluck ideas from newspapers, but I doubt we will see a Bond with an arm tattoo that listens to Joe Rogan before going to put bad guys to sleep…