Gillette’s new cover art revealed

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  • HasanDaferHasanDafer Baghdad, Iraq
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    I appreciate a few of these covers, particularly Dr. No, You Only Live Twice, and From Russia with Love, as they have strong concepts. The minimalist approach is appealing, but I believe it could have been executed more effectively.
  • edited August 15 Posts: 860
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    So are these versions censored? I suspect they might be the new sanitised versions, and I'd certainly like to know before I start buying.

    That is the $64,000 question.

    Problem is that shouldn't be a question. IFP cruely lack of transparancy in what thay announces. It's always vagues or incomplet.

    Precises the version of text (while its been month they read dozen of comment on the subject at each of their announcements post in social media)? No.

    Details with precision the bonus content of their book, No, just settle with an obscure "specially-selected archival material" that nobody can interpret. (Same can be say for the updateted edition of the last Higson coronation book).

    What are they hoping? That people would had no other choice to blindly buy, hoping to not be dissapointed, to discover themself the thing that should had been announced in transparacy and that would have motivied or nor their buy?

    At least I should howewer give them a good point to be spare of theses useless dust jacket for once. Sicks of theses flying paper that are not a real cover, fragile, could be easy lost forever, looks cheap and cause the real cover to be an hideous monochrome.



  • edited August 15 Posts: 2,922
    Problem is that shouldn't be a question. IFP cruely lack of transparancy in what thay announce. It's always vagues or incomplet.

    I'm guessing IFP's silence on this question means it's using the redacted texts. It doesn't want to announce that because of the outcry from last time, and if these were the original texts it would have used that information as a selling point. But I am quite curious about the "archival material," which is the only reason I'd consider buying these.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited August 15 Posts: 556
    One can always buy the old pan paperbacks on ebay or some such place for a couple of bucks, and get great art and a book which Fleming would approve of. Or there's numerous modern printings like the vintage collection or thomas & mercer which keep Fleming's words intact.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited August 15 Posts: 556
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Agent_99 wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    I prefer these than to those of the Bond Girls designs, honestly, modern yet creative, the Bond Girls designs, on the other hand felt like something came out of a soft porn or something like that, those were decent looking, I guess, but these new covers were better, in my opinion.

    Same; I feel putting sexy ladies on the cover sends the message that these are books for men, and Bond has always been for both men and women.

    I love these new designs but I probably won't pick them up...well, maybe CR to add to my collection of different editions of CR. Yes, I have a problem.

    Putting women on a cover means its not for....women?

    The thing is how it's styled, with nudity and all, for me, personally, I felt that it looked like something came out of soft porn or something like that, it's a bit cheap looking (I know and understand how creative are those, graphically), but it's just the way of designs, those pictures could've been approved by Hefner himself 😅, and that means, as @Agent_99 said, it would be a read for men's, and in my opinion, could sway the younger audiences away from reading those books (and Bond could be read by any other ages, heck, Fleming described it as a read for young boys).

    Well, I see you're point but this is James Bond you're talking about. Fleming was writing this books for a male, primarily British audience. I'm not a big playboy fan, but Bond and Playboy go way back, and the naked silhouettes are a hallmark of the film series.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    I think I got your point @mtm.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 13 Posts: 16,665
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I like how they've incorporated the shape of a heart into the design of the carpet beater - very clever. :)
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited September 13 Posts: 4,710
    mtm wrote: »

    Yes, that version of CR looks lovely. And it won't be edited, as IFP has confirmed it wasn't. I'm more curious what the announcement will be next Tuesday. Probably signed or limited editions of them. Although, it could be a few things:

    A title reveal for Kim Sherwood’s third Double 00 book.
    More details on the Q Mysteries.
    Another Spinoff?
    Hopefully though as @Double-OhAgent said a new JAMES BOND novel. Hopefully set in modern day.

    I’m hoping for one (or honestly all of these). Of course it depends on the spinoff character of choice.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 14 Posts: 16,665
    Yeah I felt like the Tuesday thing is probably to do with these editions, like you say, signed (by Gilette I guess) or limited special editions in some way.

    Must admit I’ve gone for that CR. I just think it looks a lovely thing.
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    Just had a look at these covers, and I quite like the concept. They look very inspired by 1960/70 paperbacks, which is a nice stylistic choice.

    The imagery in some of them aren't necessarily what I'd pick, or made in a way I think works perfectly, but there are definitely some good ones here. Live and Let Die, Dr. No, Goldfinger and On Her Majesty's Secret Service are probably my favourites, and I really like the details posted above of the Casino Royale one.

    I might be tempted to pick up a few of these, although the entire set might be a bit too expensive for me.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I guess they all have rear cover artwork and endpapers like the CR above too, it would be nice to see what they're all like. I'm interested to see what choices they've made on the print style, stock etc.

    I guess there could be a boxset of all of them coming on Tuesday maybe.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    I would be tempted to buy the whole set if it were available as a boxset. Good to hear (thanks to @MaxCasino above) that these will have the original unaltered texts. That, the new cover art and the archive material included at the back of each book will be their unique selling points I'd imagine.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 14 Posts: 16,665
    Well CR is the original text as it was never changed.

    I guess I should post the whole lot of them as no-one's done that yet!

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  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    mtm wrote: »
    Well CR is the original text as it was never changed.[/url]

    Yes, I was thinking that. Hopefully they are all the unaltered texts though, especially as they're hardbacks and thus more collectable. People understandably want the Real McCoy for a set like this. I think it's only right.
  • edited September 14 Posts: 17,833
    mtm wrote: »
    I guess they all have rear cover artwork and endpapers like the CR above too, it would be nice to see what they're all like. I'm interested to see what choices they've made on the print style, stock etc.

    I guess there could be a boxset of all of them coming on Tuesday maybe.

    Indeed. There's so much more that goes into the overall look and feel of a book than just the front cover.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Diamonds Are Forever is the beautiful looking of the bunch.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That does look great, but to be honest I think they all do. OHMSS would be great as a wall print I think, I love that one.
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Good to hear (thanks to @MaxCasino above) that these will have the original unaltered texts.

    I read that Casino Royale has unaltered text, but does this apply to the whole series?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Good to hear (thanks to @MaxCasino above) that these will have the original unaltered texts.

    I read that Casino Royale has unaltered text, but does this apply to the whole series?

    Yes, that's what I'm wondering now myself. I hope they are all the original text versions.
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Yes, that's what I'm wondering now myself. I hope they are all the original text versions.

    I love the artwork and the whole vibe of these new editions. I'm seriously thinking of getting the lot if they're true to the original text, so if anyone has any definite info on this, I'd be very grateful.
    I'd be surprised if Live and Let Die, for example, featured the original UK text and chapter titles. I just can't see them doing it. I'd applaud them if they did.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't think there's any reason to think they would be? Just buy the unedited ones if you prefer.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    From IFP themselves.

    **INTERNAL MEMO - OFFICE SUPPLIES**

    I wanted to send this message on Friday 13th but it’s unlucky, so I didn’t.

    Certain of my Double O agents have asked for a special edition of the upcoming Casino Royale hardback. Ian Fleming Publications have thus created a limited run that look dipped in silver. But it doesn’t seem fair to keep this just to James and the gang, so they’ve printed a few more that are now up for grabs. No need to thank me, just keep them nice.

    Pre-order your copy
    Also, note for caterers: James says we need better coffee.

    Loelia Ponsonby,
    Principal Secretary
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 16,665
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    From IFP themselves.

    **INTERNAL MEMO - OFFICE SUPPLIES**

    I wanted to send this message on Friday 13th but it’s unlucky, so I didn’t.

    Certain of my Double O agents have asked for a special edition of the upcoming Casino Royale hardback. Ian Fleming Publications have thus created a limited run that look dipped in silver. But it doesn’t seem fair to keep this just to James and the gang, so they’ve printed a few more that are now up for grabs. No need to thank me, just keep them nice.

    Pre-order your copy
    Also, note for caterers: James says we need better coffee.

    Loelia Ponsonby,
    Principal Secretary

    Here's an image of it:



    I should have waited to order it I guess! But never mind, can't be bothered cancelling now :D
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    mtm wrote: »
    I don't think there's any reason to think they would be? Just buy the unedited ones if you prefer.

    No self-respecting collector is going to buy editions that have been edited 60 years after the real Mccoy that Author Ian Fleming didn't approve of.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 17 Posts: 16,665
    Okay cool. We have another thread about that.
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    No self-respecting collector is going to buy editions that have been edited 60 years after the real Mccoy that Author Ian Fleming didn't approve of.

    I wouldn't question anyone's integrity who did want censored versions, but for my own part, if I'm shelling out for a Fleming Bond book, I want the original text as far as possible.
    I've ordered the collectors' edition of Casino this afternoon. I'll wait and see about the rest. I'd love them, I think they're beautiful, but if they're censored I'll leave it.
    Obviously I have the original text of the novels many times in various versions, (from some original Capes to the splendid Folios), it's not the text Itself I'd be missing. But if I bought a modern cleaned up version of a Fleming text, it'd be like condoning censorship in literature. Simple as that.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited September 18 Posts: 4,710
    No self-respecting collector is going to buy editions that have been edited 60 years after the real Mccoy that Author Ian Fleming didn't approve of.

    I wouldn't question anyone's integrity who did want censored versions, but for my own part, if I'm shelling out for a Fleming Bond book, I want the original text as far as possible.
    I've ordered the collectors' edition of Casino this afternoon. I'll wait and see about the rest. I'd love them, I think they're beautiful, but if they're censored I'll leave it.
    Obviously I have the original text of the novels many times in various versions, (from some original Capes to the splendid Folios), it's not the text Itself I'd be missing. But if I bought a modern cleaned up version of a Fleming text, it'd be like condoning censorship in literature. Simple as that.

    Yes, don't teach the irresponsible to be more irresponsible. There are other ways that IFP should be trying to keep the fans happy. Also, from another Bond site:

    That’s even less interesting or “special” than I thought it would be.

    I just don’t understand it. I love Ian Fleming’s works as much as any James Bond fan–and even have multiple editions of the series–but exactly how many various editions does IFP expect people to own? It seems like every other year we’ve got a new Fleming collection (at various pricing) produced for fans to buy. There’s only so much cash, much less shelf space, for people to have.

    On the other hand, IFP hasn’t done much, if anything, for the continuation novels which, I suppose, is somewhat understandable. But what is more puzzling is not hiring a new continuation author for more JAMES BOND novels starring everyone’s favorite secret agent James Bond 007. Granted, since 2002, we’ve had nine Young Bond novels and one short story (which, admittedly, were very entertaining and well done) and three The Moneypenny Diaries novels and two short stories. But in that same time frame, we’ve only gotten six adult Bond adventures and one novelette. So that’s SEVEN adult Bond stories in the last 17 years! That’s basically half the Young Bond/Moneypenny Diaries output! Not exactly what I’d call, pumping them out–or giving the people what they want.

    I feel similar to their points of view.
  • edited September 18 Posts: 1,088
    I'm quite happy with them re-releasing Fleming Bonds. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but the last full set* of hardback Bond novels appeared in 2008, (the Centenary editions). So I think these will be welcomed, especially by a new generation of literary Bond fans.
    But they do make a good point that there's been a lot of 'Bondverse' books compared to actual Bond books. I'd also like to see a new, full-blooded adventure featuring James Bond himself, rather than young Bond at school, Miss Moneypenny adventures, Q adventures, or the new gang of diversity agents looking for a missing Bond.

    *The Folio editions are not yet a complete collection. Lots of us are waiting for Octopussy and the the Living Daylights.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 18 Posts: 16,665
    Part of me wonders a little if there is a bit of a pause on new Bond in general to whet the appetite for his big screen return. IFP licence the character from MGM/Eon.
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