The Horror Thread II: The Return

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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Fire_and_Ice_Returns, shame, I've loved that version since it dropped 15 years ago (which pains me to type out, knowing that was the last installment we had. What a travesty).

    To be fair the kills have been good so far and Jason is imposing, I just find the so called teenagers irratation levels dialed up to 11, as a viewer you don't mourn any of there deaths lol.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Most of the characters in the Friday series are obnoxious, to be fair. The 2009 film, for me, is one of the best ones for a variety of reasons. Nothing beats Jason Lives, though.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The meat portions in the F13 series barely qualify as characters since their main reason for existing is so that said existence can be brutally terminated by Jason, to our amusement I might add. Also, boobs. Let's be frank, the 2009 film doesn't miss a single opportunity to demonstrate the alluring nature of the female chest. It should come as no surprise that the "B³" cocktail of Blood, Babes and Boobs is what has kept the series going for 12 instalments. The Platinum Dunes film certainly wants to stuff as much B³ in there as inhumanly possible. When the rich boy cheats on his girlfriend while telling his latest pick-up during sex that, "wow, those tits are stupendous", you know what kind of movie you're in. The water-skiing girl takes her top off too, for some mysterious reason, only to be impaled by Jason. The entire film thrives on this formula. Story? None. Well, almost none. But not enough for one film, hence the two sets of teens that meet an early demise by the phallic tools our boy Jason so willingly wields.

    I'm not a hypocrite; story has never been my reason for enjoying the series. I'm in it for a few pounds of B³ as well. But the "remake" or "reboot" or whatever the 2009 film is, lacks focus. Early on, it's a forgone conclusion that the film isn't even going to allow any blood to flow to our brains; Bay and Nispel desperately want to direct it somewhere else. So it's just about the male gaze then? Sure. This film is so categorically male-oriented, it barely moves above that baseline of gore and tits that are the x and y of the slasher genre.

    All that said, I enjoy these things just like I enjoy a slice of pizza. Neither are masterpieces in their respective businesses, but they fulfil their greasy promise with ease. In fact, I wish Platinum Dunes hadn't stopped making F13, ANOES and TCM films because as genre product, their slasher output showed promise. Nowadays, it's all about the "elevated" slasher, and that's a good thing--I'm a fan! But a simple no-brainer of a B³ slasher is part of my balanced horror film diet as well.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The Platinum Dunes film certainly wants to stuff as much B³ in there as inhumanly possible. When the rich boy cheats on his girlfriend while telling his latest pick-up during sex that, "wow, those tits are stupendous", you know what kind of movie you're in.

    A B³ masterpiece. And he was absolutely correct about the tits.
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    The Friday characters beyond Jason and his mother are extremely forgettable for me, but that’s okay because I know what I’m going into when I watch the movies, haha. Slashers aren’t (usually?) meant to be high art, but they’re a lot of fun when done nicely!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    The Friday characters beyond Jason and his mother are extremely forgettable for me, but that’s okay because I know what I’m going into when I watch the movies, haha. Slashers aren’t (usually?) meant to be high art, but they’re a lot of fun when done nicely!

    Exactly. There is a "cosy" element to a good slasher that I appreciate very much. Call me immoral, a little insane perhaps, but a well-crafted slasher flick--my demands are few and my bar pretty low--is an effective stress reliever.
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    The Platinum Dunes film certainly wants to stuff as much B³ in there as inhumanly possible. When the rich boy cheats on his girlfriend while telling his latest pick-up during sex that, "wow, those tits are stupendous", you know what kind of movie you're in.

    A B³ masterpiece. And he was absolutely correct about the tits.

    He was. No doubt about it.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Friday the 13th remake final act was decent enough, I must admit going into the rewatch I was expecting to see Katie Cassidy, I soon realized I was getting my horror films mixed up, Katie is in A Nightmare on Elm Street remake.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Thanks to Arrow Films and their beautiful and often extras-heavy editions, I've been doing a deep-dive into the world of Ju-On lately. Especially The Curse (1&2) and The Grudge (1&2) are films that creep me out in a delightful manner. I also like the 2004 remake and about half of its 2006 sequel. All of these, including the remake and its sequel, were directed by Takashi Shimizu. I've also seen the other films in the series, both the Japanese and American ones, but those are just not as effective. The American Grudge 3 and 2020 Grudge are actually for most the part terrible. I just don't think The Grudge can work outside the Japanese setting and its infamous haunted house, distorted timeline and original Kayako and Toshio.

    I've also read the manga and the first novelization, the only book that has ever managed to give me goosebumps.

    Yes, I'm a J-Horror fan, particularly of the Ring and Grudge series. Ju-On -- did you know that's not even a word in Japanese? -- is my favourite. Its low-budget qualities, along with its strong blend of modern and traditional Japanese culture and storytelling, provides those horror fan with everything he needs.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    The Substance

    If you're a fan of body horror, don't rob yourself of seeing this one in theaters. You will not regret it. I've never seen anything like it. The less said, the better, but wow wow wow, this was an experience.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    The Substance

    If you're a fan of body horror, don't rob yourself of seeing this one in theaters. You will not regret it. I've never seen anything like it. The less said, the better, but wow wow wow, this was an experience.

    Very cool, @Creasy47 ... I'm looking forward to this, and have been hearing excellent things.

    Can't wait to see Demi Moore back in action. It's been said she's exceptional in this.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Best performance of her career, I'd say. She's outstanding.
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    I also had a lot of interest in The Substance. And Terrifier 3 and Nosferatu of what I can remember coming soon. Brian De Palma’s Body Double is making its 4K debut Tuesday, so I had to order that; it’s a very fun, self-aware piece with all the violence and sex one could want in a good horror film!
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    The Substance

    If you're a fan of body horror, don't rob yourself of seeing this one in theaters. You will not regret it. I've never seen anything like it. The less said, the better, but wow wow wow, this was an experience.

    I'm so morbidly curious, but I'm afraid I'd need a bucket nearby.

    How does it compare to Possessor, on a violence/gore scale?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    The Substance

    If you're a fan of body horror, don't rob yourself of seeing this one in theaters. You will not regret it. I've never seen anything like it. The less said, the better, but wow wow wow, this was an experience.

    I'm so morbidly curious, but I'm afraid I'd need a bucket nearby.

    How does it compare to Possessor, on a violence/gore scale?

    It's not as "violent" in the sense of "action," aside from one very critical moment, but in terms of gore and unbelievable prosthetics and makeup work, it's 1,000x more insane. Watching a couple trailers after I saw it finally, I was happy to see they didn't really reveal any off the shocking finale, which is where it dips into some unprecedented territory. I don't think I've ever been crying laughing while simultaneously having my jaw agape all at the same time so consistently as I did in that last half hour or so. Sick stuff, and I loved it.

    EDIT: Freddie Prinze Jr. is back and ready for more I Know What You Did Last Summer:

    https://deadline.com/2024/09/freddie-prinze-jr-sony-i-know-what-you-did-last-summer-sequel-film-1236097098/
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    There are not many movies that get me back into the cinema, but this is one that will I will definitely want to see on the big screen! I admit though that I've only recently caught up with 'The Northman' and was disappointed, I found it a bit hard going! Am hoping this will be better, though I wonder why they didn't release it at Halloween rather than Christmas!?
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    It looks awesome. I'm a big fan of Eggers' horror movies (The Lighthouse particularly is such a creepy and atmospheric film).
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    There are not many movies that get me back into the cinema, but this is one that will I will definitely want to see on the big screen! I admit though that I've only recently caught up with 'The Northman' and was disappointed, I found it a bit hard going! Am hoping this will be better, though I wonder why they didn't release it at Halloween rather than Christmas!?

    Maybe to capitalise on the holiday period/people being more likely to have a bit of time off in the days after Christmas/New Year? That and I think it's no longer a rule of thumb that horror movies succeed best when released in October, if that's even been a rule of thumb in the film industry for a long time now (horror films are so common nowadays that you can conceivably release them anytime. I can see why this particular one would be most likely to succeed end of year/beginning of next).
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Scream 7 has officially been dated for February 27th, 2026:

    https://deadline.com/2024/10/scream-7-release-date-1236104564/
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    I’m going to see Terrifier 3 soon! I’ve been so excited for it. Had mixed feelings on All Hallows Eve and Terrifier 1, but loved Terrifier 2 and cannot wait to see more of Art’s wild antics. As far as I’m concerned, he has become the next big horror icon, and can stand shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Jason, Freddy, Michael, and Chucky.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’m going to see Terrifier 3 soon! I’ve been so excited for it. Had mixed feelings on All Hallows Eve and Terrifier 1, but loved Terrifier 2 and cannot wait to see more of Art’s wild antics. As far as I’m concerned, he has become the next big horror icon, and can stand shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Jason, Freddy, Michael, and Chucky.

    I absolutely agree. Another one to look forward to.
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I’m going to see Terrifier 3 soon! I’ve been so excited for it. Had mixed feelings on All Hallows Eve and Terrifier 1, but loved Terrifier 2 and cannot wait to see more of Art’s wild antics. As far as I’m concerned, he has become the next big horror icon, and can stand shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Jason, Freddy, Michael, and Chucky.

    I absolutely agree. Another one to look forward to.

    Just came back from seeing it. I will say, there were a couple questionable decisions I didn’t dig, but overall it was still a blast and I definitely got what I came for! I honestly wish they had waited until December to put it in theaters, but it was extremely Christmas-y in the best way possible, and I look forward to it joining my personal favorite Christmas movies rotation, hehe.

    I do think this franchise peaked with 2 - I even said as much to my brother when we went to see it in the theater a couple years ago, just saying “I think we’re witnessing the peak, how could it get better?” basically. Terrifier 3 is lots of fun, though, with Art being his usual entertaining self and Sienna being an awesome protagonist. My ranking on this series is pretty definitively 2 > 3 > 1, and if I included All Hallows Eve it’s more or less tied with 1. Cannot wait to see what’s next!
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  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @Creasy47

    The original The Strangers scared me so badly, I refuse to even watch this trailer, lol.

    And that's not hyperbole. I hated every second of the first one because it was executed so damn well. It tapped right into my fear-bucket, and filled it to the rim.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    peter wrote: »
    @Creasy47

    The original The Strangers scared me so badly, I refuse to even watch this trailer, lol.

    And that's not hyperbole. I hated every second of the first one because it was executed so damn well. It tapped right into my fear-bucket, and filled it to the rim.

    Don't worry, this new trilogy is horrible and not remotely scary. The original terrified the hell out of me on release, I even recall sneaking into the theater with my cousin cause I didn't have my ID at the time and it was totally worth the hassle. Never saw the sequel, but the new one they released this year? Total garbage through and through. It was a pretty rough remake/reboot of the original albeit totally devoid of tension and scares.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @Creasy47

    The original The Strangers scared me so badly, I refuse to even watch this trailer, lol.

    And that's not hyperbole. I hated every second of the first one because it was executed so damn well. It tapped right into my fear-bucket, and filled it to the rim.

    Don't worry, this new trilogy is horrible and not remotely scary. The original terrified the hell out of me on release, I even recall sneaking into the theater with my cousin cause I didn't have my ID at the time and it was totally worth the hassle. Never saw the sequel, but the new one they released this year? Total garbage through and through. It was a pretty rough remake/reboot of the original albeit totally devoid of tension and scares.

    That’s sad, then. The first was so great. So tense. My stomach was in a goddamned knot. And the mere concept, so simple, could have intelligently been expanded.

    Although I’d never watch another one (at first because I never wanted to feel that dread again, lol, and; now that you’ve explained the new ones are trash, I wouldn’t want to see the follow ups because I don’t want to see the original sullied), this is sad news and shows the laziness that sometimes drives the films in this genre

    It’s a shame because independent horror-thrillers have been a force the past couple of years. It’s one of the only genres to continue looking into spec scripts from new writers. The filmmaking has been super intelligent on tiny budgets, being rewarded with terrific box office….
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    peter wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @Creasy47

    The original The Strangers scared me so badly, I refuse to even watch this trailer, lol.

    And that's not hyperbole. I hated every second of the first one because it was executed so damn well. It tapped right into my fear-bucket, and filled it to the rim.

    Don't worry, this new trilogy is horrible and not remotely scary. The original terrified the hell out of me on release, I even recall sneaking into the theater with my cousin cause I didn't have my ID at the time and it was totally worth the hassle. Never saw the sequel, but the new one they released this year? Total garbage through and through. It was a pretty rough remake/reboot of the original albeit totally devoid of tension and scares.

    That’s sad, then. The first was so great. So tense. My stomach was in a goddamned knot. And the mere concept, so simple, could have intelligently been expanded.

    Although I’d never watch another one (at first because I never wanted to feel that dread again, lol, and; now that you’ve explained the new ones are trash, I wouldn’t want to see the follow ups because I don’t want to see the original sullied), this is sad news and shows the laziness that sometimes drives the films in this genre

    It’s a shame because independent horror-thrillers have been a force the past couple of years. It’s one of the only genres to continue looking into spec scripts from new writers. The filmmaking has been super intelligent on tiny budgets, being rewarded with terrific box office….

    Even some of its more traditional jump scares got me good. Beyond that, the dread and suffocating tension were so palpable. I still get chills thinking about the one killer lurking quietly in the background while Liv Tyler's character is standing there nervously, no clue he's hiding in the dark. So effective.

    For the latest one, just picture someone remaking the 2008 version, mucking up everything that made it great, and removing all the tension and scares and fear. Plus, the acting was dreadful. It's all bad, I really can't recall a single thing I liked about it.
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    I love the original The Strangers. I don’t understand all the bad reviews. The strength is in the simplicity; it’s one of the best, straightforward, no bullsh*t scary movies. Haven’t bothered with any of the sequels or prequels and it sounds like I haven’t been missing out.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Someone who has watched Nosferatu 2024 says its the scariest film they have ever seen, Count Orlock is terrifying.

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    NOSFERATU Poster Gives Us A Teasing Glimpse Of Count Orlok
    https://comicbookmovie.com/horror/nosferatu-poster-gives-us-a-teasing-glimpse-of-count-orlok-as-tickets-go-on-sale-a214724#gs.ips96s
    I love this poster very sinister.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I know early reactions are usually exaggerated but "scariest film they have ever seen" is a stretch. I hope they're even half right on that score though.
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    I’m full of confidence it will be a high-quality film no matter what. Eggers is one of the best working directors in the world, and has a great chance to go down in history as one of the greats if he keeps up the pace.
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