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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 9 Posts: 16,823
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    No, it's really not a decision most actors in the know will take lightely. None of us have any idea how hard it is, and even actors in the know like Turner can't truly comprehend it. Many will simply not want to do it.

    I know some people here like Turner (and I'd lump Theo James in thus category too), but I think people need to understand he's not lying when he says he probably won't take this role. It's not our decision at the end of the day, and there's no reason for an actor to lie publicly about this unless they're directly involved with EON. Again, I admire the guy for not trying to publicly go after this role (he's done some relatively good stuff otherwise) or use the publicity to benefit himself (at least directly). But there's no indication he wants it, and I really don't think he's the right fit. I suspect he's perfectly happy where he is at the moment in his career and isn't worrying about auditing for Bond as some of us are here, haha.

    If you know you have no chance but you don't want to look like a loser.

    Maybe, or maybe he's genuinely not interested. I remember seeing interviews with him and it seeming like he didn't hugely like the attention he got from Poldark, so 007 doesn't seem likely to be something he'd want.

    Equally on the other hand, genuine candidates don't go around talking about it and publicising themselves on the back of it, I don't think Eon are keen on that.
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »

    I think without an offer no actor can know what they would do.

    I think that's true. With Craig it was a clear dilemma as he was effectively shutting down one part of his career and his life to be replaced with another. For Brosnan it was probably less of a problem as he'd been pretty much focused on that role or one like it for his whole career.
    buddyoldchap wrote: »

    @mtm at it again /ignore

    I'm baffled that there would be anything in what I said that you could take personally. If you are maybe you're investing a bit too much in this guy.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited January 9 Posts: 4,457
    I suspect even if certain actors said ‘I’m not interested in this role and would probably turn it down if offered’ outright, there’d still be a bunch of us here saying it’s not true and it’s some sort of effort to entice EON. I just don’t think that’s how it works, and it’s wishful thinking on our part. Sure, if EON really wanted the actor they’d offer him a chance at the role, and sure, it might make the actor think twice. But generally if they didn’t want to do it beforehand it’s unlikely they’ll say yes if offered. That’s all it comes down to.

    At the end of the day none of us know these actors personally (I suspect anyway). I can only take them at their word and what they’ve done with their career prior. None of can cling on to an unlikely scenario about certain actors becoming Bond because we want to see it.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
  • sandbagger1sandbagger1 Sussex
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    A quote commonly misattributed to someone who made his living preaching pretty much the opposite!
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited January 9 Posts: 4,457
    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    A quote commonly misattributed to someone who made his living preaching pretty much the opposite!

    Sometimes a cigar is just an irrational fixation… or something to do with one’s Mum, although not likely in this case… I dunno, I’ve never read Freud!
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    007HallY wrote: »
    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    A quote commonly misattributed to someone who made his living preaching pretty much the opposite!

    Sometimes a cigar is just an irrational fixation… or something to do with one’s Mum, although not likely in this case… I dunno, I’ve never read Freud!

    Sometimes a cigar is... Just ask Bill. He knows.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    I can see both sides of this argument. If I were an actor, and for some reason, I were offered Bond.... as flattered as I would be, I would decline. I am too much of a private person. There's no way I could cope with the immense publicity surrounding Bond, for however long my run would be.

    As much as I want to see Turner as Bond, I would rather an actor be honest and decline, than to accept for the wrong reasons.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    I can see both sides of this argument. If I were an actor, and for some reason, I were offered Bond.... as flattered as I would be, I would decline. I am too much of a private person. There's no way I could cope with the immense publicity surrounding Bond, for however long my run would be.

    As much as I want to see Turner as Bond, I would rather an actor be honest and decline, than to accept for the wrong reasons.

    That I agree with. We just do not know regarding the good man. I mean he's an actor after all, smoke screens everywhere. We all know EoN doesn't like it when an actor is fishing for the job, hence it's better to play the game, play coy etc. We will truly know when/if Aidan would get the offer, to do an audition, what he'd do then.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I think reasonable reply if asked would be “ At the moment it’s not on my radar, but Bond is an iconic character and it would be an honor to be considered “.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    A quote commonly misattributed to someone who made his living preaching pretty much the opposite!

    I know, I was just jesting. I meant if an actor says something about a role, maybe he just means what he says and there's no strategy or long term goal.

    I always wonder why they don't do the same with scriptwriters. Ever heard of writers or scriptwriters being asked in interviews if they'd like to work on a Bond script if they had the chance?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 9 Posts: 16,823
    Ludovico wrote: »
    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    A quote commonly misattributed to someone who made his living preaching pretty much the opposite!

    I know, I was just jesting. I meant if an actor says something about a role, maybe he just means what he says and there's no strategy or long term goal.

    Yes I think it's safer to take a stranger at their word rather than deciding that they mean the opposite of what they say, especially if you risk disappointment by not doing so.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I always wonder why they don't do the same with scriptwriters. Ever heard of writers or scriptwriters being asked in interviews if they'd like to work on a Bond script if they had the chance?

    Do scriptwriters even get interviewed that often? I think there's much interest in much in the way of crew beyond directors in the press, maybe in specialised press but then they're less sort of interested in the frothy news of Bond than the main newspapers etc.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Sometimes a cigar is just a banana.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    mtm wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    sandbagger1 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    A quote commonly misattributed to someone who made his living preaching pretty much the opposite!

    I know, I was just jesting. I meant if an actor says something about a role, maybe he just means what he says and there's no strategy or long term goal.

    Yes I think it's safer to take a stranger at their word rather than deciding that they mean the opposite of what they say, especially if you risk disappointment by not doing so.
    Ludovico wrote: »
    I always wonder why they don't do the same with scriptwriters. Ever heard of writers or scriptwriters being asked in interviews if they'd like to work on a Bond script if they had the chance?

    Do scriptwriters even get interviewed that often? I think there's much interest in much in the way of crew beyond directors in the press, maybe in specialised press but then they're less sort of interested in the frothy news of Bond than the main newspapers etc.

    I guess Oscar winning scriptwriters do, sometimes. As for me, given the development stage of the next Bond movie at this point, I'd rather know who will write the script and what it might be about.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    Directors get asked about doing a Bond film from time to time. We've even had a fair few rumours with specific names already (some of whom like Edward Berger have responded to it). But yeah, screenwriting's a bit more niche I guess. But I suspect some get asked too.
  • DragonpolDragonpol Writer/Director @ https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Sometimes a cigar is just a banana.

    As my late father used to say, "It's a wonderful bird, the frog."

    Now you know where I get it from. ;)
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,050
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Sometimes a cigar is just a banana.

    As my late father used to say, "It's a wonderful bird, the frog."

    Now you know where I get it from. ;)
    Yeah @Dragonpol of course I conjoined Freud with the SNL skit.

    And I've been frogging.


    SNL Anna Freud (2:17, sound only)
    https://youtu.be/7WxDTEszGJQ?si=KsG3yhq0MysH_0sc


  • DewiWynBondDewiWynBond
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    If they shy away, I'll step in.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I still think Aidan is in with a chance. If he was offered and if he wants it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I would be very surprised if they go with someone already into their 40s, especially after all this down time.
  • DewiWynBondDewiWynBond
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    The downtime could factor in. The actor could be pushing late forties, waiting for production to start on the next one.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I just don't know, it's impossible predicting the course of the next era, whether it's the actor, director, writer etc.

    Based on previous comments I'd gather that EON want a Bond for at least 10 years and at least 4 - 5 films. Rebooting is a massive headache for them and they want to make the distance between fresh actors as long as possible.

    But like I said its impossible to know whats coming next, so I wouldn't say a trilogy is out of the question.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Talking to some female co-workers today, who know I’m a Bondie (thanks @GoldenGun )
    They all agreed without any prompting from me, that Theo James would make a great James Bond. Based on their comments that he is very sexy, very cool, is a good actor and looks the part.

    Can’t disagree with them on most of it.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 8,295
    Benny wrote: »
    Talking to some female co-workers today, who know I’m a Bondie (thanks @GoldenGun )
    They all agreed without any prompting from me, that Theo James would make a great James Bond. Based on their comments that he is very sexy, very cool, is a good actor and looks the part.

    Can’t disagree with them on most of it.

    I agree, when my girlfriend and I were watching “ The Gentleman “ I mentioned that James could make a good Bond; by the end of the series she said “ he would make a great Bond” .
  • DewiWynBondDewiWynBond
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    I wouldn't trust someone's opinion if they overuse the word 'very'. But yes, anyone will make a great Bond - it's a trend to say that. Just keep waiting.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
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    He's too 2D for me, dull almost in his acting.
  • DewiWynBondDewiWynBond
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    Interesting how easily hyped or overvalidated anyone is. That's something positive. To me, that signals smooth sailing for the return of Bond.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I find interesting how many people here have a knee jerk, negative, dismissive reaction to virtually anyone who is an “ obvious “ candidate. I’m not simply talking about Theo James; there are many others.

    I know that just because someone looks good in a tux doesn’t necessarily make them a good prospect; but sometimes an obvious choice is the right choice.

    I think there are some here who will only be satisfied if the next Bond is an odd looking, obscure actor who checks certain diversity boxes. With that said, someone like that might be a great pick, but don’t just dismiss someone because they are traditionally handsome, have appeared in mainstream productions and , yes, look great in a tux.

    End of rant. Lol.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited January 16 Posts: 16,823
    I think you're ascribing motives which aren't there, to be honest. The point of this thread, to me, seems to be to suggest ideas for various actors who might be able to do it and then to have a chat about whether the rest of us think he'd be right for it. An obvious choice for one person is another's lacklustre performer. And pretty much anyone who gets suggested is going to look good in a dinner suit as a taken, because those suits are supposed to make people look good.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited January 16 Posts: 1,538
    talos7 wrote: »
    I find interesting how many people here have a knee jerk, negative, dismissive reaction to virtually anyone who is an “ obvious “ candidate. I’m not simply talking about Theo James; there are many others.

    I know that just because someone looks good in a tux doesn’t necessarily make them a good prospect; but sometimes an obvious choice is the right choice.

    I think there are some here who will only be satisfied if the next Bond is an odd looking, obscure actor who checks certain diversity boxes. With that said, someone like that might be a great pick, but don’t just dismiss someone because they are traditionally handsome, have appeared in mainstream productions and , yes, look great in a tux.

    End of rant. Lol.

    I blame Craig for this. An obvious choice is not good enough.

    I'm sure regular people would be happy with someone like Cavill or James.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited January 16 Posts: 4,457
    mtm wrote: »
    I think you're ascribing motives which aren't there, to be honest. The point of this thread, to me, seems to be to suggest ideas for various actors who might be able to do it and then to have a chat about whether the rest of us think he'd be right for it. An obvious choice for one person is another's lacklustre performer. And pretty much anyone who gets suggested is going to look good in a dinner suit as a taken, because those suits are supposed to make people look good.

    Exactly. Theo James just doesn't do much for me. He's fine in The Gentleman, but I'm not sure he left a lasting impression on me. That's all it comes down to. I just can't see him as Bond (and he's another who doesn't seem interested). I can accept for others though he's an 'obvious' choice (personally I've never quite seen him like that). But these things are subjective and until we actually see the actor in the role none of us can tell.

    EDIT: Speaking of traditionally handsome actors who apparently won't be Bond, a friend just showed me this story that was going around earlier this month. Not going to speculate how true it is, but surprised it wasn't mentioned here - https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1996319/james-bond-hopeful-firmly-rejected Must say, not an actor I can see as Bond either.
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