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La-La Land Records Present Licence To Kill: 35th Anniversary Remastered & Expanded 2CD

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    morcarvic wrote: »
    anybody have any thoughts on why kamen's arrangement of "La Bamba"is'nt on the release?

    I think including a bit of old music playing on a radio may be pushing it, especially since Kamen didn't write it.
  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    morcarvic wrote: »
    anybody have any thoughts on why kamen's arrangement of "La Bamba"is'nt on the release?

    I think including a bit of old music playing on a radio may be pushing it, especially since Kamen didn't write it.

    whoa! harsh you could apply that definition to the wagner
    bit.
  • mattjoesmattjoes
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    morcarvic wrote: »
    anybody have any thoughts on why kamen's arrangement of "La Bamba"is'nt on the release?

    Discs seem pretty full, perhaps there wasn't room? And something like the wedding march was more important so it got priority.
  • Bernie99Bernie99
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    That part from Truck Chase 3:51 - 4:10 is so epic, i can't hear that part 3:51 - 3:57 in the final film
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    humblepilot wrote: »
    Only halfway through the soundtrack so far, but I noticed that "Bond Aboard" seems to deviate from what we hear in the film from around the 2 minute mark.

    Yes, it seems the film tracked in part of the cue "Planting the Explosives" for that scene up until Bond wakes Lupe with the knife to her neck. I like both, but I can see why they made that choice. The "Planting the Explosives" cue is exceptionally atmospheric and dark.
  • humblepilothumblepilot UK
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    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    humblepilot wrote: »
    Only halfway through the soundtrack so far, but I noticed that "Bond Aboard" seems to deviate from what we hear in the film from around the 2 minute mark.

    Yes, it seems the film tracked in part of the cue "Planting the Explosives" for that scene up until Bond wakes Lupe with the knife to her neck. I like both, but I can see why they made that choice. The "Planting the Explosives" cue is exceptionally atmospheric and dark.

    Oh, so that's where it comes from! Good find!
  • Bond_ScoresBond_Scores UK
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    I almost got a bit of false hope. In the third track we get what Kamen originally composed for that cheesy slow mo hero shot of David Hedison Leiter charging. Because the movie heavily reused cues, that gave me the impression we would get a lot more of these original cues that were discarded in favor of reusing. Nope. Most of the score is as it is in the movie, so that was mildly disappointing. But now I at least know they definitely spliced in that bit of “Seaplane Escape” into the bit with Leiter charging.

    I think they made the right call here. The Chariots Of Fire interpolation would have made an already quite cheesy scene (the slo-mo running) even worse :D
    morcarvic wrote: »
    Bond_Scores wrote: »
    I haven't done a proper deep dive on the album yet, but it's sounding great so far. Has anyone noticed that the wedding march (Wagner) into the main title doesn't match the version heard in the film? The start of the cue is missing and I'm sure it's a different organ patch (possibly with more reverb)?

    I haven't got my copy from la la yet,soon i hope i,think it's in french customs at the moment,but here's a wild thought we know from the kamen cue listing's there were two wedding march recordings for the scene the wagner one presented on album and film and the mendleson version might that version begin with the organ intro you describe and they did a mash up of the two for the film (assuming public domain copywrites would not be infringed).

    I think you're spot on! Listening again, it sounds like they spliced the triplets at the start of the Mendelssohn with the Wagner cue. The former unfortunately isn't on this LLLR release, so we can't make our own edit. Never mind!
  • humblepilothumblepilot UK
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    Some more observations, some obvious, some less so:

    "Let's Go Shark Hunting" goes unused.

    There are countless instances where they made cuts to tracks that would have otherwise have gone on longer, or begun sooner. Notably "Uncle Q" has a comedic little bit of "Rule Britannia" that was probably best left out.

    "Framing Krest" is another track that is hard to reconcile with the film music. I think it's another "Bond Aboard" situation, from around 3 and a half minutes in.

    "Bond and Lupe" - a different take? I had trouble matching up the little arpeggios and variations.

    "Q in Disguise", also unused.

    I had a lot of trouble with "The Lab / The Process". Couldn't follow along at all with what plays on-screen.

    "Truck Chase" more divergences from around 2 minutes.

    Phew!

  • morcarvicmorcarvic france
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    Just another spot for the sake of mentioning (never expected to be on the new release ) but there is a minor source cue at the wedding of felix and della ,before the ivory "wedding party" song ,when bond is sent to fetch felix and sees pam for the first time(could be also by ivory [conjecture] ).
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Some amazing stuff here, just off the top of my head I found He Disagreed with Something That Ate Him and the casino source music absolute highlights.

  • BT3366BT3366
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    Had the chance to pick up the supposedly out-of-print TWINE La-La Land release on its eBay store for what it retailed for and chose to pick up LTK at the same time, so I've got a lot to look forward to. The only one I haven't added yet is TND, which is still for sale.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Bond_Scores wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    The title song starts in an unexpected way, has that always been there?

    Track 6 is the 7" edit of the title song and the version played on radio stations at the time. It doesn't actually match the version played in the opening titles of the movie - I'm working on an edit of that and will share in the 'Lost but now found' thread when it's ready. The extended version is more familiar as it's on the original OST and on all the Bond theme song compilation albums.

    Here's a thing I've never noticed until today: the film version of the song is missing the backing singers repeating 'to kill' in the chorus after Gladys sings the title. I'm sure everyone else knew that but I'd never noticed it before.
  • dcitguydcitguy
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    R1s1ngs0n wrote: »
    The TB 2003 release didn’t have the vocal rendition of MKKBB by Dionne Warwick, so I’m pretty certain LLL will include it in a (cross our fingers) fully remastered 60th anniversary release later this year.
    GF was pretty much complete and still got a remastered release in October so I don’t see TB, or any other nearly or fully complete Barry score, not getting the same TLC from LLL.
    Pretty gutted we didn’t get OHMSS but I truly hope it doesn’t mean we’ll have to wait another 5 years for it.

    You mention GF was pretty much complete. It isn't. There's about 10 minutes of music missing. Someone "reconstructed" these and posted them on YT.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It’s complete in terms of what is available; they don’t have the tapes of the recording sessions anymore for that one.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I don't mind that small bits of music remain exclusive to the film viewing experience. Honestly, I admire what LLL has been doing with the Bond scores so far. Truly amazing!
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