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  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited January 27 Posts: 4,374
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    I hate to be a spoilsport on a "petrol..." thread, but my wife and I have just decided to order a Hyundai Ioniq 5, fully electric, to replace our 2016 model Jeep Grand Cherokee. The latter just doesn't fit our amount of driving any more...only about 5,000 km per year, and overwhelmingly short trips. The diesel engine hardly ever reaches the desired temperature, and the car really guzzles diesel fuel and keeps demanding a higher-speed trip to clean the particulate filter every 300 kilometers or so. We don't have to pull a two-horse trailer any more, either, since we gave up horseback riding some years ago.

    As for electric, we now have a PV system on the roof of our house and will install a wallbox for the car in our garage. We are pretty sure that the costs of a new electric car will be far lower than those of keeping the 3-liter diesel.

    Oh, come to think of it, we will still have a 3-liter diesel even when we trade in the Jeep...we're not ready to give up our 2008 BMW 330d convertible yet. And it's not Euro 6 and doesn't have a particulate filter it could complain about ;) .

    Congratulations on the big decision to go fully EV! It may calm your nerves that our landlord of last year's holiday apartment in Austria drove just such an Ioniq 5. He was a big fan, commuted daily on the autobahn. The car uses a distance detection system to "sail" behind other cars (instead of recuperating break energy). He said if he follows a lorry/truck, the consumption goes down to almost nothing. So you should be happy. I bet you did quite some research on suitable EV cars?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,585
    Congratulations @GoldenGun on your new Alfa! The Stelvio is a beautiful car, and as i understand it, it handles quite well too. I still have the Giulietta, as it is now officially a company car, and enjoy driving it a lot when I 'officially have to'.

    @j_w_pepper and you, sir, obvioulsy congratulations on your new EV! I have no doubt it has its' perks. I've come to really enjoy the comfort of our hybrid and indeed, like you, on the short runs, beeing able to drive electric is better for your wallet AND thec car. And the Ioniq 5 is quite a good looking car, for as far as modern cars are concerned.

  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    edited January 27 Posts: 9,162
    Thanks, @zebrafish and @CommanderRoss!

    My nerves regarding this decision are quite ok... And yes, I did quite some research (online) before deciding on this one. And Hyundai managed to basically comply with every criticism of the first model when doing the facelift. It didn't have a rear window wiper - now it does, as standard. The software didn't have a "home" button - now it does, as a physical switch. And the beep signal when going past the speed limit (automatic traffic sign recognition) cannot legally be shut off permanently, but now it's just one push of your thumb to take care of that for the trip.

    I must say that the looks of it were a major part in the decision, though without the (as per WLTP) excellent range and, quite frankly, the kind of discount (via Carwow - it seems to have worked for me!) one doesn't get on cars from Germany, nor any Czech or Spanish member of the VW group, I wouldn't have considered it. It appears like a cleanly-designed compact...yet has a larger wheelbase than our Jeep, and therefore endless room inside. And most important :o3 the transport crate for our dog fits inside ;) .
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,130
    I saw this on other media. Indicates John Gardner was onto something.

    It was referred to as a secret feature of the 1990s era Saab. Or did it appear elsewhere?

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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,363
    I saw this on other media. Indicates John Gardner was onto something.

    It was referred to as a secret feature of the 1990s era Saab. Or did it appear elsewhere?

    5ca6b2b304b710bb86e2ee5a7f023c67293259be.gifv

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    My greatgrandfather, and subsequently my grandmother, both drove a version of that SAAB in the picture. I think ot was 900 Turbo. It was built in 1982 and went well into the 2000's.

    I love SAAB, it remains my favourite ever non-Italian car manufacturer, such a loss that it's not around anymore :( Always warms my heart if I happen to see one around.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,234
    I had two 900 Turbos, the face lifted version of that one, so late 80s and an early 90s Aero. I really loved them, great cars.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    Posts: 2,653
    V12 Aston Martin vs MG Cyberster drag race

    Can 12 cylinders topple China's fastest convertible
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,585
    V12 Aston Martin vs MG Cyberster drag race

    Can 12 cylinders topple China's fastest convertible

    Seems the main problem is the electric having all the torque from the start and 4wd. So, results as expected, really.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    Posts: 2,653
    V12 Aston Martin vs MG Cyberster drag race

    Can 12 cylinders topple China's fastest convertible

    Seems the main problem is the electric having all the torque from the start and 4wd. So, results as expected, really.

    No grip in the damp conditions by the $300k Aston is embarrassing.
    Maybe it's time they do a Jaguar and go electric ?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,585
    V12 Aston Martin vs MG Cyberster drag race

    Can 12 cylinders topple China's fastest convertible

    Seems the main problem is the electric having all the torque from the start and 4wd. So, results as expected, really.

    No grip in the damp conditions by the $300k Aston is embarrassing.
    Maybe it's time they do a Jaguar and go electric ?

    I disagree, if you're on the damp with cold tires, this is what you get. It's exaclty why 4wd was invented for - more grip in less-than-ideal circumstances. Astons are not built for dragraces. But as you saw, the Chinese car would lose if the dragrace would've been just a couple of meters longer. And probably in the dry as well.

    No doubt they'll go electric too sooner or later, there's little choice, as hydrogen powered cars don't have the infrastructure, and gasoline is going out of fashion. Allthough perhaps a small share will remain, I don't know. But like with aeroplanes and trains, it's just a new age and steam engines (trains) or rotary props have all but completely gone now.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    Posts: 2,653
    V12 Aston Martin vs MG Cyberster drag race

    Can 12 cylinders topple China's fastest convertible

    Seems the main problem is the electric having all the torque from the start and 4wd. So, results as expected, really.

    No grip in the damp conditions by the $300k Aston is embarrassing.
    Maybe it's time they do a Jaguar and go electric ?

    I disagree, if you're on the damp with cold tires, this is what you get. It's exaclty why 4wd was invented for - more grip in less-than-ideal circumstances. Astons are not built for dragraces. But as you saw, the Chinese car would lose if the dragrace would've been just a couple of meters longer. And probably in the dry as well.

    No doubt they'll go electric too sooner or later, there's little choice, as hydrogen powered cars don't have the infrastructure, and gasoline is going out of fashion. Allthough perhaps a small share will remain, I don't know. But like with aeroplanes and trains, it's just a new age and steam engines (trains) or rotary props have all but completely gone now.


    I think it's only in the rolling race where the Aston gets close to the MG ?
    Maybe they switched traction control off in the Aston ?

    Hydrogen is dead.
    Toyota is on the receiving end of a class action lawsuit in California, with owners of the hydrogen-powered Mirai claiming they were misled about the state the infrastructure to support refuelling when buying their cars.

    https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/hydrogen-carmakers-face-legal-battle-in-california
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited February 17 Posts: 4,374
    If you love barn finds, then head over to the Late Break Show and be surprised what else they find in a suitcase at around the 13 minute mark.


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