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EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards

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  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »

    Does Amy Pascal have anything to do with Sony's Spiderman spin-offs?
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    She’s only been credited for the Holland films, the animated films, and the Venom films. Had nothing to do with the garbage dumps like Morbius, Madame Web and Kraven.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Broccoli suggested to Amazon to pick Pascal as the newly appointed producer. She was Eon’s biggest ally in Sony.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited March 3 Posts: 8,695
    I'm not a big fan of a director like Nolan coming in and doing Bond, but now that Amazon has control I think it might be the best thing for the series. If Amazon is deciding everything creatively, we're likely to end up with Jurassic World/Force Awakens but the Bond equivalent of that. At least with a name like Nolan or Villeneuve we'll get something unique and not bland.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    edited March 3 Posts: 290
    I wouldn't be against it all actually. They're both great producers and Barbie is only one film of their vast portfolios. Pascal was leading the Casino Royale production team, whereas Heyman has produced the Harry Potter films among many others.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    Pascal would be a reassuring addition. But we'll see.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    mtm wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Eon didn’t bring back the 007 theme, so I don’t expect Amazon to either. Their main goal is the attract the broad audience and make new fans, not placate to a base which is aging out of the demographic target.

    I love Barry, but 007 has never really done much for me.

    +1
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
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    peter wrote: »
    How many interviews do these actors do every year?

    How many interviews did Craig do during his tenure as 007? And it's the wrist slashing comment that people feel they know who and what this guy is???

    We have had Tom Cruise bouncing up and down on Oprah's couch, claiming his undying love for Katie Holmes.

    We have Cruise going after Brooke Shields because she took meds after suffering post birth depression.

    We've had Hugh Grant being rude to Ellen DeGeneres at the height of her powers.

    Hugh Grant treating an Oscar Award interviewer like a bag of doggy doo-doo.

    Vin Diesel famously hitting on a You Tuber during an interview...

    There are some many bad interviews, with repeat offenders, and the wrist slashing comment is all one could find to throw shade on Craig?

    How many interviews did Craig do as Bond? And all one can dig up is an exhausted actor, a few days after a long shoot saying, I'd rather slash my wrists ...If that's his only faux pas after hundreds and hundreds of interviews, over fifteen years, answering the same questions over and over and over, then he's got a pretty damn clean record, as far as I'm concerned.

    On top of this: the quote is a decade old. One quote. Ten years old. Can't one find something else to hate on this guy for?

    I never took that quote seriously, and anyone that did, or got offended by it in any way, needs to get a life.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I love both; one is stylish jazz why the other has a more epic/ majestic quality. Both are classic Bond
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 3 Posts: 18,493
    echo wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Eon didn’t bring back the 007 theme, so I don’t expect Amazon to either. Their main goal is the attract the broad audience and make new fans, not placate to a base which is aging out of the demographic target.

    I love Barry, but 007 has never really done much for me.

    +1

    I think the "007" theme suited the old Bond films fine and was quite thrilling but after this length of time (1979) it's probably best to keep it in the past.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    If its not a quick turn around that means we won't see Bond 26 until way after the release of Batman part 2.

    Which hurts even more as EON was before this bit of a news in my opinion on an up swing

    We had
    Goldeneye back for the modern consoles in 2022
    The first Adult Bond book in the modern era with On his majesties secret service (first time since 2011’s carte blanche)
    And we got the first new Bond video game (though a mobile one) with 007 Cypher

    And even film wise rumors of Denis coming in rumors that babs may have found someone she liked with Paul Mescal (not my first choice by a long shot)

    Now to quote dylan its all over now baby blue
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Eon didn’t bring back the 007 theme, so I don’t expect Amazon to either. Their main goal is the attract the broad audience and make new fans, not placate to a base which is aging out of the demographic target.

    I love Barry, but 007 has never really done much for me.

    +1

    I think the "007" theme suited the old Bond films fine and was quite thrilling but after this length of time (1979) it's probably best to keep it in the past.

    I thought it was great in FRWL. It feels like a train somehow.

    After that, not so much.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    It was great in TB too.
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    It was great in TB too.
    The use of the 007 theme in TB was brilliant. Shows it could work today with a killer arrangement.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I bet that the 007 Theme is just a brilliant remix away from being perfect for a modern Bond film.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    It’s telling though that even after MR that Barry himself largely abandoned its use in the films. I always thought it was a cue he kept pushing for so that he could try to make an iconic piece of music to stand alongside with Monty Norman’s theme, but it never really stood out beyond fans of the soundtrack.
  • Reflsin2bourbonsReflsin2bourbons
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    I think in FRWL the 007 theme fits the film really well, especially 007 takes the Lektor. It makes sense with all the chaos going on.

    In Thundberball, I can't help but associate the 007 theme with the horrendously edited climax.

    Moonraker makes it sound grand and I think it's in great shape there.

    I think the 007 theme isn't one that carries intrigue and suspense with it like the Bond Theme. You can't play a 007 theme during a stealthy infiltration, while a Bond theme has that sort of universality.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I always thought this was a pretty fun edit.

  • NoTimeToLiveNoTimeToLive Jamaica
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Eon didn’t bring back the 007 theme, so I don’t expect Amazon to either. Their main goal is the attract the broad audience and make new fans, not placate to a base which is aging out of the demographic target.

    Amazon don't even know what the 007 theme; if you asked them, they'd probably believe you'd be referring to the Monty Norman theme. Even the average Bond fan doesn't know about it.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    The opening riff of YKMN would make a great stinger for new Bond films.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Wasn't it the producers felt the 007 theme was too triumphant? So they stopped using in films after Moonraker? I could be wrong
    CrabKey wrote: »
    The opening riff of YKMN would make a great stinger for new Bond films.

    100% agree mate. I love YKMN and that opening riff gives me chills every time, something about it just feels Bondian
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    James Bond nightclubs, vodka, aftershave: 007 writer on the spy’s future with Amazon
    (The Observer):

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/mar/01/james-bond-william-boyd-spy-amazon-franchise-ai
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Wasn't it the producers felt the 007 theme was too triumphant? So they stopped using in films after Moonraker? I could be wrong

    If they did I would agree, there’s no edge to it. Also it seems more sort of 50s styled than Barry’s usual stuff with the airy strings. It doesn’t feel very Bondy or dangerous.
    If they used a slower reference to the main melody as a sort of London/MI6 theme I could see that working, it has a sort of stately feel.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Yeah, I think a very intelligent composer can rework the 007 theme into modernity. Imagine a composer like Ludwig Goransson working on it.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I genuinely didn't know until now that that bit of music was even called '007 Theme'. If anything I tended to associate it with bigger battle/action scenes in the earlier films.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yes I'd rather the OHMSS theme or 'He's Dangerous' from AVTAK got wheeled out again, they're great action themes and very Bondy. And OHMSS has appeared in more than Bond too (maybe three? NTTD of course, plus it gets quoted in the QoS theme song, which I know is cheating :D )
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes I'd rather the OHMSS theme or 'He's Dangerous' from AVTAK got wheeled out again, they're great action themes and very Bondy. And OHMSS has appeared in more than Bond too (maybe three? NTTD of course, plus it gets quoted in the QoS theme song, which I know is cheating :D )

    Aaah! Yes! "He's Dangerous" very good action theme. Funnily enough, it sounds like an alternate version of OHMSS.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 4 Posts: 17,273
    Yeah you're right, it does; it's definitely in the same vein and uses the same descending four note vamp underneath the melody.
  • Reflsin2bourbonsReflsin2bourbons
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    OHMSS's 4 note bit has been used loads by many Bond composers. I think Arnold used it it intentionally a lot of the time for TWINE and DAD for action sequences:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/JamesBond/comments/1b3au9c/the_evolution_of_ohmsss_iconic_musical_bass_line/
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That's a good video, not seen that before. I'm not sure all count, some aren't repeating vamps but just descending notes, and I'm not convinced the video doesn't cut off before some continue to more than four notes too! But yes, I hadn't spotted a few of them, not least the DAD chases which I'm sure are very intentional. Others may not be and I expect you can probably find four note descending vamps in lots of films, it doesn't seem massively unique.
  • patbpatb
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    The opening riff of YKMN would make a great stinger for new Bond films.

    100%
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