How the world views us, Bond fans

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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,421
    Agent_99 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I think the perception of a Bond fan is probably someone who's seen more than one and has a point of view on who their favourite Bond is- I don't know if most people think there even are such things as Bond fans; and there's not much of a perception of weirdos taking it too seriously.

    As my partner said: "I didn't know someone could be a 'Bond fan' until I met you."

    At work someone called me a Bondie. If there is such a thing, I suppose I am one. Who else would wear Baron Samedi or Scaramanga socks :))
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,952
    @GoldenGun If you wear Bond socks then you're also a sock fan; a sockie.

    By the way, do you have holes in your socks?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,562
    007HallY wrote: »
    I was a bit too young to really care about the whole craignotbond thing at the time, although I was aware of it and I even remember some sort of planned 'boycott' of CR which obviously didn't work out (but I remember it being a concern at the time). My God though, from a quick look at older posts from Bond forums at the time I didn't realise just how obsessed and even unhinged many of them were about it.

    Unfortunately I can imagine a similar 'fan' reaction to something about the new Bond film before it's released.

    I have vivid memories of the "craignotbond" website and its followers, some of whom briefly joined our community. I was particularly disappointed by some members who considered "craignotbond" a legitimate and objective argument against Daniel Craig's casting. Using awkward, heavily manipulated freeze-frames of an actor, altered with amateur photo editing, as proof that Craig's casting was a mistake, is utterly insane.

    It's worth remembering that all of this criticism occurred before a single frame of Craig as Bond had been released. Even during the days of NTTD, similar behavior persisted. Some people actively engaged in discussions about the film without having seen it. Others confidently declared that NTTD would never be released; once it was, they insisted it would be a box office disaster. When NTTD succeeded at the box office, they then claimed that Bond dying had set a template for future Bond films. "Mark my words," the always-proven wrong prophets like to say.

    My first experience with internet hysteria likely began with Craig's casting in 2005, and I’ve witnessed many similar instances since.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,356
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Agent_99 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I think the perception of a Bond fan is probably someone who's seen more than one and has a point of view on who their favourite Bond is- I don't know if most people think there even are such things as Bond fans; and there's not much of a perception of weirdos taking it too seriously.

    As my partner said: "I didn't know someone could be a 'Bond fan' until I met you."

    At work someone called me a Bondie. If there is such a thing, I suppose I am one. Who else would wear Baron Samedi or Scaramanga socks :))

    A Bondie, I’ve never heard or seen that expression before.
    It sounds logical and makes sense. I kinda like it.
    Bondie.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,421
    QBranch wrote: »
    @GoldenGun If you wear Bond socks then you're also a sock fan; a sockie.

    By the way, do you have holes in your socks?

    Haha no I don't. I take good care of my Bond socks. ;)

    Benny wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Agent_99 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I think the perception of a Bond fan is probably someone who's seen more than one and has a point of view on who their favourite Bond is- I don't know if most people think there even are such things as Bond fans; and there's not much of a perception of weirdos taking it too seriously.

    As my partner said: "I didn't know someone could be a 'Bond fan' until I met you."

    At work someone called me a Bondie. If there is such a thing, I suppose I am one. Who else would wear Baron Samedi or Scaramanga socks :))

    A Bondie, I’ve never heard or seen that expression before.
    It sounds logical and makes sense. I kinda like it.
    Bondie.

    I think that co-worker invented it on the spot, because I also never heard of it. But doesn't sound too bad, maybe it'll become a thing :))
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 14,952
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Haha no I don't. I take good care of my Bond socks. ;)
    You don't have holes in your socks? Then how do you get your feet in?
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,262
    QBranch wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Haha no I don't. I take good care of my Bond socks. ;)
    You don't have holes in your socks? Then how do you get your feet in?
    Darn it.

  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited March 2 Posts: 3,873
    I think this one fits more in this thread:

    Why many people were complaining about a scene in NTTD where Bond was at the back while Nomi was the one riding the Scooter, have they not seen Bond at the passenger seat before? (Fiona Volpe, Tracy, Anya, Melina, and Camille)?

    We even have Bond (almost looking uncool) in Tuk-Tuk while Vijay was the one driving it in OP.

    I may not be much of a fan of NTTD, but it's just nonsense for the fans to complain about that particular thing, because it's no different from those scenes before where Bond took a passenger seat next to a Bond Girl driving, the only difference was, it's a Scooter, those that came before were cars.

    If it's a car, would people still complain?

    I don't understand the fans sometimes.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited March 2 Posts: 24,562
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    I think this one fits more in this thread:

    Why many people were complaining about a scene in NTTD where Bond was at the back while Nomi was the one riding the Scooter, have they not seen Bond at the passenger seat before? (Fiona Volpe, Tracy, Anya, Melina, and Camille)?

    I may not be much of a fan of NTTD, but it's just nonsense for the fans to complain about that particular thing, because it's no different from those scenes before where Bond took a passenger seat next to a Bond Girl driving, the only difference was, it's a Scooter, those that came before were cars.

    If it's a car, would people still complain?

    I don't understand the fans sometimes.

    "The" fans are "some" fans, @SIS_HQ. Some fans believe that "Babs" and Craig were conspiring against us by emasculating Bond. Because that makes sense...? A bit of "ooh la la" during Silva's interrogation and a female 00 add to the strange idea that James Bond is no longer a "real man". Because that makes sense...? And a selective memory is never too far away when examples are thrown in our faces just to prove a point that, at least in my opinion, makes no sense.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,421
    QBranch wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Haha no I don't. I take good care of my Bond socks. ;)
    You don't have holes in your socks? Then how do you get your feet in?

    Game, set and match ;)
  • ThunderballThunderball playing Chemin de Fer in a casino, downing Vespers
    Posts: 875
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    I think this one fits more in this thread:

    Why many people were complaining about a scene in NTTD where Bond was at the back while Nomi was the one riding the Scooter, have they not seen Bond at the passenger seat before? (Fiona Volpe, Tracy, Anya, Melina, and Camille)?

    I may not be much of a fan of NTTD, but it's just nonsense for the fans to complain about that particular thing, because it's no different from those scenes before where Bond took a passenger seat next to a Bond Girl driving, the only difference was, it's a Scooter, those that came before were cars.

    If it's a car, would people still complain?

    I don't understand the fans sometimes.

    "The" fans are "some" fans, @SIS_HQ. Some fans believe that "Babs" and Craig were conspiring against us by emasculating Bond. Because that makes sense...? A bit of "ooh la la" during Silva's interrogation and a female 00 add to the strange idea that James Bond is no longer a "real man". Because that makes sense...? And a selective memory is never too far away when examples are thrown in our faces just to prove a point that, at least in my opinion, makes no sense.

    Only little boys uncomfortable with women would think like these do. Best pay them no mind.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
    Posts: 4,259
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I was a bit too young to really care about the whole craignotbond thing at the time, although I was aware of it and I even remember some sort of planned 'boycott' of CR which obviously didn't work out (but I remember it being a concern at the time). My God though, from a quick look at older posts from Bond forums at the time I didn't realise just how obsessed and even unhinged many of them were about it.

    Unfortunately I can imagine a similar 'fan' reaction to something about the new Bond film before it's released.

    I have vivid memories of the "craignotbond" website and its followers, some of whom briefly joined our community. I was particularly disappointed by some members who considered "craignotbond" a legitimate and objective argument against Daniel Craig's casting. Using awkward, heavily manipulated freeze-frames of an actor, altered with amateur photo editing, as proof that Craig's casting was a mistake, is utterly insane.

    It's worth remembering that all of this criticism occurred before a single frame of Craig as Bond had been released. Even during the days of NTTD, similar behavior persisted. Some people actively engaged in discussions about the film without having seen it. Others confidently declared that NTTD would never be released; once it was, they insisted it would be a box office disaster. When NTTD succeeded at the box office, they then claimed that Bond dying had set a template for future Bond films. "Mark my words," the always-proven wrong prophets like to say.

    My first experience with internet hysteria likely began with Craig's casting in 2005, and I’ve witnessed many similar instances since.

    The Craig haters are still very active on certain FB Bond groups. And they're still rabidly unhinged. They now blame Craig for 'killing the franchise' as well as 'killing James Bond' himself..

    Not liking an actor in a part is one thing. But some of these fans are seriously deranged when it comes to Craig..!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,562
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I was a bit too young to really care about the whole craignotbond thing at the time, although I was aware of it and I even remember some sort of planned 'boycott' of CR which obviously didn't work out (but I remember it being a concern at the time). My God though, from a quick look at older posts from Bond forums at the time I didn't realise just how obsessed and even unhinged many of them were about it.

    Unfortunately I can imagine a similar 'fan' reaction to something about the new Bond film before it's released.

    I have vivid memories of the "craignotbond" website and its followers, some of whom briefly joined our community. I was particularly disappointed by some members who considered "craignotbond" a legitimate and objective argument against Daniel Craig's casting. Using awkward, heavily manipulated freeze-frames of an actor, altered with amateur photo editing, as proof that Craig's casting was a mistake, is utterly insane.

    It's worth remembering that all of this criticism occurred before a single frame of Craig as Bond had been released. Even during the days of NTTD, similar behavior persisted. Some people actively engaged in discussions about the film without having seen it. Others confidently declared that NTTD would never be released; once it was, they insisted it would be a box office disaster. When NTTD succeeded at the box office, they then claimed that Bond dying had set a template for future Bond films. "Mark my words," the always-proven wrong prophets like to say.

    My first experience with internet hysteria likely began with Craig's casting in 2005, and I’ve witnessed many similar instances since.

    The Craig haters are still very active on certain FB Bond groups. And they're still rabidly unhinged. They now blame Craig for 'killing the franchise' as well as 'killing James Bond' himself..

    Not liking an actor in a part is one thing. But some of these fans are seriously deranged when it comes to Craig..!

    Not to mention that looking at this from a distance, there's something wildly disturbing about spewing such hateful comments concerning a bit of after-work entertainment for the masses. People are willing to engage in political Left - v - Right fights over Craig, Broccoli and the character of Bond. Some people are close to wanting "some harm" to come to these filmmakers in real life. Certain extreme 'conclusions' are hard to misunderstand: there are some who believe that recent events in Bondland are part of some Deep-State conspiracy and whatnot.

    I may as well take inspiration from Trudeau and conclude that while many of these Internet 'haters' are generally smart people, some of their comments and posts are very dumb.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,680
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    I think this one fits more in this thread:

    Why many people were complaining about a scene in NTTD where Bond was at the back while Nomi was the one riding the Scooter, have they not seen Bond at the passenger seat before? (Fiona Volpe, Tracy, Anya, Melina, and Camille)?

    We even have Bond (almost looking uncool) in Tuk-Tuk while Vijay was the one driving it in OP.

    I may not be much of a fan of NTTD, but it's just nonsense for the fans to complain about that particular thing, because it's no different from those scenes before where Bond took a passenger seat next to a Bond Girl driving, the only difference was, it's a Scooter, those that came before were cars.

    If it's a car, would people still complain?

    I don't understand the fans sometimes.

    The people criticizing that scene aren't Bond films but those who find woke out of anything.

    They must have forgotten Bond bashing Primos head against a wall or doing donuts in the DB5 with gattiling guns.
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