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  • Pierce2DanielPierce2Daniel
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    The best thing he ever did was marry Alicia Vikander, another unlucky actor.

    I think he’s incredibly lucky. I don’t think he’s ever had the charisma or screen presence to lead a franchise like Bond. The bigger films he did lead weren’t very successful anyway and few went to see them for his name. I think his talents come more as a character actor in dramas or in supporting roles. Just by virtue of getting high profile roles which are often acclaimed (rightfully) he’s more fortunate than most actors. He’s also had an abuse allegation made against him which has resurfaced a couple of times and apart from a brief hiatus (he was doing less films anyway at this point, concentrating on family and seemingly racing) it doesn’t seem to have ruined his career (by the way I’m not saying anything about it one way or the other, but these sorts of things can potentially tank careers and most people don’t even seem to know about this with Fassbender).

    Yes good post, I agree.
    Plus I think anyone who has seen 'Shame' would agree he's a very lucky, or perhaps blessed man :)

    I quite like Shame. It’s definitely a director’s film and I suppose you can argue Fassbender’s performance is rather minimalistic. But I think he’s good in it.

    I’m not sure I could ever see Fassbender doing all the fundamental Bond stuff naturally - the quips, the swagger, the raw charisma, confidence and humour. Even in Inglorious he’s doing a pastiche of a Hollywood WW2 Englishman (and to be honest it drifts towards outright comedy/parody even then). I guess Dalton is the closest I can see him being as a potential Bond in his prime, albeit flatter, colder, and less unique. He’s a good character actor and obviously had an element of star quality to him, but not enough of it for Bond unfortunately, or even other high profile leading roles.

    Shame is a fantastic film. He was criminally snubbed for an Oscar nomination in that film.

    New photos from Jacob Elordi's Narrow Road to the Deep North - which is a Prime release in Australia. People underestimate him, but he's worked with top directors including Guillermo del Toro and shortly playing the lead in a Ridley Scott film.

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  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Elordi sucks as a Bond candidate. Too tall, too slim, too handsome. Bond isn't a model. I would have to see JE buff and roughed up before I'd ever even consider him, and he hasn't shown me any of that edge in any of his roles.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Benny wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Fassbender would have been a great choice, not impressed by his choices though 😉

    Fassbender is the new Clive Owen, the unluckiest actor in History.

    We weren’t unlucky to miss out on Clive Owen though.
    He’s not a good actor at the end of the day

    I'm glad I'm not the only one not seeing Clive Owen as Bond. I never understood the appeal.
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited March 14 Posts: 734
    LucknFate wrote: »
    Elordi sucks as a Bond candidate. Too tall, too slim, too handsome. Bond isn't a model. I would have to see JE buff and roughed up before I'd ever even consider him, and he hasn't shown me any of that edge in any of his roles.

    I have yet to see a serious Bond candidate mentioned besides Aiden Turner, Sam Heughan, Jamie Dornan or Henry Cavill, who doesn't look like a male model, or act puffed up.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    It's funny because I think Elordi has a nerdy face. He is not Bond material.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Clive Owen looks like James Bond, for sure...but his acting isn't that strong. Just like Guy Pearce who doesn't look like James Bond, but is a good actor.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    It's funny because I think Elordi has a nerdy face. He is not Bond material.

    I agree, and don’t see him at all as a model; in fact, not to be mean , based on the middle photo above, I can see why he was cast as “ The Monster “ in del Toro’ s
    “ Frankenstein “
  • UnivexUnivex
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    007HallY wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    The best thing he ever did was marry Alicia Vikander, another unlucky actor.

    I think he’s incredibly lucky. I don’t think he’s ever had the charisma or screen presence to lead a franchise like Bond. The bigger films he did lead weren’t very successful anyway and few went to see them for his name. I think his talents come more as a character actor in dramas or in supporting roles. Just by virtue of getting high profile roles which are often acclaimed (rightfully) he’s more fortunate than most actors. He’s also had an abuse allegation made against him which has resurfaced a couple of times and apart from a brief hiatus (he was doing less films anyway at this point, concentrating on family and seemingly racing) it doesn’t seem to have ruined his career (by the way I’m not saying anything about it one way or the other, but these sorts of things can potentially tank careers and most people don’t even seem to know about this with Fassbender).

    Yes good post, I agree.
    Plus I think anyone who has seen 'Shame' would agree he's a very lucky, or perhaps blessed man :)

    I quite like Shame. It’s definitely a director’s film and I suppose you can argue Fassbender’s performance is rather minimalistic. But I think he’s good in it.

    I’m not sure I could ever see Fassbender doing all the fundamental Bond stuff naturally - the quips, the swagger, the raw charisma, confidence and humour. Even in Inglorious he’s doing a pastiche of a Hollywood WW2 Englishman (and to be honest it drifts towards outright comedy/parody even then). I guess Dalton is the closest I can see him being as a potential Bond in his prime, albeit flatter, colder, and less unique. He’s a good character actor and obviously had an element of star quality to him, but not enough of it for Bond unfortunately, or even other high profile leading roles.

    Just had to come in and say that your posts really made me laugh, in a good way, of course, talking about the film 'Shame' and saying that he is blessed but had a minimalistic performance, ;)) Freud would have a field day with that one. Good show.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Bond's villains should not be equal to him, but superior to him: the henchmen should be stronger and the main villains smarter.

    Such a good point. This is what DN-GF got so right.

  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    echo wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Bond's villains should not be equal to him, but superior to him: the henchmen should be stronger and the main villains smarter.

    Such a good point. This is what DN-GF got so right.

    Do you mean the movies, the books or both?
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Just my opinion, but I think Elordi would be a poor choice, I think there's better more suitable options. If Elordi was cast the drop in acting ability from Craig as Bond would be stark

    Elordi doesn't look tough enough to be Bond and despite his frame, I don't think he gives any menacing presence on screen, there's no edge to him
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
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    007HallY wrote: »
    I’m not sure I could ever see Fassbender doing all the fundamental Bond stuff naturally - the quips, the swagger, the raw charisma, confidence and humour. Even in Inglorious he’s doing a pastiche of a Hollywood WW2 Englishman (and to be honest it drifts towards outright comedy/parody even then). I guess Dalton is the closest I can see him being as a potential Bond in his prime, albeit flatter, colder, and less unique. He’s a good character actor and obviously had an element of star quality to him, but not enough of it for Bond unfortunately, or even other high profile leading roles.

    What exactly do you mean by 'raw charisma'?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I’m not sure I could ever see Fassbender doing all the fundamental Bond stuff naturally - the quips, the swagger, the raw charisma, confidence and humour. Even in Inglorious he’s doing a pastiche of a Hollywood WW2 Englishman (and to be honest it drifts towards outright comedy/parody even then). I guess Dalton is the closest I can see him being as a potential Bond in his prime, albeit flatter, colder, and less unique. He’s a good character actor and obviously had an element of star quality to him, but not enough of it for Bond unfortunately, or even other high profile leading roles.

    What exactly do you mean by 'raw charisma'?

    It’s like porn, to everyone’s agreement one may not define it in words, but you know it when you see it.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 15 Posts: 4,869
    talos7 wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I’m not sure I could ever see Fassbender doing all the fundamental Bond stuff naturally - the quips, the swagger, the raw charisma, confidence and humour. Even in Inglorious he’s doing a pastiche of a Hollywood WW2 Englishman (and to be honest it drifts towards outright comedy/parody even then). I guess Dalton is the closest I can see him being as a potential Bond in his prime, albeit flatter, colder, and less unique. He’s a good character actor and obviously had an element of star quality to him, but not enough of it for Bond unfortunately, or even other high profile leading roles.

    What exactly do you mean by 'raw charisma'?

    It’s like porn, to everyone’s agreement one may not define it in words, but you know it when you see it.

    😂 Not wrong.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
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    talos7 wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I’m not sure I could ever see Fassbender doing all the fundamental Bond stuff naturally - the quips, the swagger, the raw charisma, confidence and humour. Even in Inglorious he’s doing a pastiche of a Hollywood WW2 Englishman (and to be honest it drifts towards outright comedy/parody even then). I guess Dalton is the closest I can see him being as a potential Bond in his prime, albeit flatter, colder, and less unique. He’s a good character actor and obviously had an element of star quality to him, but not enough of it for Bond unfortunately, or even other high profile leading roles.

    What exactly do you mean by 'raw charisma'?

    It’s like porn, to everyone’s agreement one may not define it in words, but you know it when you see it.

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Any time….
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    I've just watched the Krays film, Legend, for the first time.
    I now firmly believe that Tom Hardy would be a brilliant Bond. I hadn't really seen it before this performance.
    Smooth, charming, ruthless. The violent side of the character would be no problem for him.
    He can also handle a comedic performance from what I remember, as seen in 'This Means War'. I didn't see Bond potential in that film alone but combined with the character work in Legend I think he would be brilliant.

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    I've just watched the Krays film, Legend, for the first time.
    I now firmly believe that Tom Hardy would be a brilliant Bond. I hadn't really seen it before this performance.
    Smooth, charming, ruthless. The violent side of the character would be no problem for him.
    He can also handle a comedic performance from what I remember, as seen in 'This Means War'. I didn't see Bond potential in that film alone but combined with the character work in Legend I think he would be brilliant.

    That was ten years ago, and his talents as an actor has seriously diminished. The last decade has seen one consistently poor performance after another. I think his passion lays in combat sports now, and acting is merely Hardy doing the same cartoon voice and squint of his eyes.

    Plus he’s almost 50.
  • cwl007cwl007 England
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    Apart from that...😅
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    cwl007 wrote: »
    Apart from that...😅

    😂 you’re not wrong, then, 😂…

    I loved Hardy when he was younger. He was very intense.

    But now…he “performs” the intensity that at one time came so naturally from him. I honestly think he’s channeled all that energy into combat sports (he competes for real!).
  • mattjoesmattjoes
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    Wonder no more.

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  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    Now we fight about who they'll hire as casting director...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Now we fight about who they'll hire as casting director...

    😂...nicely done, @LucknFate 😂 😂 😂
  • Since62Since62
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    LucknFate wrote: »
    Now we fight about who they'll hire as casting director...

    Brilliant !
  • Since62Since62
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    Saw an article online suggesting Harris Dickinson...good grief he looks far too young. Connery made DN at 32, but look at his films prior, and you'll see a much more mature and manly man, in order to fairly compare him with the 28yo Harris D. I know. Don't take all these articles seriously. Sometimes a studio or agent is just promoting their client.
  • HarmonyRocketsHarmonyRockets
    edited March 19 Posts: 187
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    Hopefully it's a good showcase for Suter, great shout on him @talos7 mate, I can see him as Bond. Him and Aidan Turner are my favourites for the role

    I finally got round to finishing the BBC TV series The Game recently, it's a great showcase for Tom Hughes as a potential Bond. It was released in 2014, had Daniel stepped down after Spectre, I think he would have gotten a screentest.

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    Hughes is still only 39, but perhaps his moment has passed. I think he would made a younger, darker, Dalton style brooding Bond

    He plays Titus in the new ancient Rome show Those About to Die on Peacock. He is aging well:

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Excellent, Bond needs a bit of wear and tear…
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Again, I'm still firmly on the Callum Turner train... just think he's the best of both worlds; the traditional look with a modern edge.


  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited March 19 Posts: 4,869
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Again, I'm still firmly on the Callum Turner train... just think he's the best of both worlds; the traditional look with a modern edge.



    Yes, I can definitely see him in the role too. He’d be one of my picks.

    Not quite so keen on that ad though (fashion brand films are always a bit weird though).
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
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    007HallY wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Again, I'm still firmly on the Callum Turner train... just think he's the best of both worlds; the traditional look with a modern edge.



    Yes, I can definitely see him in the role too. He’d be one of my picks.

    Not quite so keen on that ad though (fashion brand films are always a bit weird though).

    Is there anything in particular that you like about him @007HallY? I personally can't see it from what I've seen of him.
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