Best and worst case scenario for the Amazon Bond

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  • Posts: 6,098
    My two centimes :

    Best case scenario : We get to see a Bond movie in theaters sooner or later. I'd rather sooner.

    Worst case scenario : Bond is kept on the sreaming platform, which everyone doesn't have, and the future movies stay there, not getting a theater release, and no DVD either. And that would be a shme, because Bond movies are meant to be enjoyed in the theaters.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    mtm wrote: »
    The late great James Bond.
    Dead. Long live.

  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
    edited March 9 Posts: 769
    Venutius wrote: »
    Makes sense on one level and that'd be the best outcome, so I hope you're right, Seve. Fingers crossed. I'm pessimistic about this whole thing, though, and I do wonder why Amazon would pay $1 billion dollars to get rid of EON and gain full creative control, only to then carry on just doing the same thing that EON were doing anyway. There must be a reason that Amazon wanted creative control so badly - but to then do nothing with it once they've got it? I dunno, mate, I can't help fearing whatever it is they've got in mind. Hope I'm wrong!

    They paid up because that was the only way they were getting a Bond film anytime soon.
  • Posts: 1,773
    Venutius wrote: »
    Makes sense on one level and that'd be the best outcome, so I hope you're right, Seve. Fingers crossed. I'm pessimistic about this whole thing, though, and I do wonder why Amazon would pay $1 billion dollars to get rid of EON and gain full creative control, only to then carry on just doing the same thing that EON were doing anyway. There must be a reason that Amazon wanted creative control so badly - but to then do nothing with it once they've got it? I dunno, mate, I can't help fearing whatever it is they've got in mind. Hope I'm wrong!

    Well, What could Nolan have done to not want to give him the final cut? EON wanted control even with Nolan.

  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    mtm wrote: »
    The late great James Bond.

    Ah, may he rest in peace. 🌹
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Makes sense on one level and that'd be the best outcome, so I hope you're right, Seve. Fingers crossed. I'm pessimistic about this whole thing, though, and I do wonder why Amazon would pay $1 billion dollars to get rid of EON and gain full creative control, only to then carry on just doing the same thing that EON were doing anyway. There must be a reason that Amazon wanted creative control so badly - but to then do nothing with it once they've got it? I dunno, mate, I can't help fearing whatever it is they've got in mind. Hope I'm wrong!

    Well, What could Nolan have done to not want to give him the final cut? EON wanted control even with Nolan.

    Nolan would have had to fire his wife as producer (that's her role on all of his films) to make way for Barbara and Michael.

    It was never going to happen.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited March 11 Posts: 3,261
    Well, What could Nolan have done to not want to give him the final cut? EON wanted control even with Nolan.
    That's because Nolan said that he'd only direct a Bond film if he was in charge of 'writer, casting, everything...full package.' That's way more than final cut. That's 'you give me the money and I do whatever I want.' Given that BB and MGW sat on the SF set, watching Mendes work and passing him notes between takes, what was the likelihood of them ever relinquishing oversight of every aspect of a film to Nolan? Or anybody, tbf.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah I think they'd be crazy to do that to be honest, that was kind of the point of their Bond films- they were a curated series in order to keep the brand at the top.
  • Posts: 1,773
    Venutius wrote: »
    Well, What could Nolan have done to not want to give him the final cut? EON wanted control even with Nolan.
    That's because Nolan said that he'd only direct a Bond film if he was in charge of 'writer, casting, everything...full package.' That's way more than final cut. That's 'you give me the money and I do whatever I want.' Given that BB and MGW sat on the SF set, watching Mendes work and passing him notes between takes, what was the likelihood of them ever relinquishing oversight of every aspect of a film to Nolan? Or anybody, tbf.

    That's the point. That's why Amazon wants them far away.
  • Posts: 417
    The harder they fall...
    On a note re NTTD ending, I think they can go by using Fleming own's solution.
    Remember, in YOLT, "Bond –in searing pain– heads for the wooden box that controls the volcanic eruptions which he cranks before fleeing the castle which is set to explode, but in the escape, Bond is sent crashing downward into the sea where he is rescued."
    (NTTD being largely inspired by YOLT).
    That's point one. They will show Bond being blasted away and found floating in the sea. Next in the novel, is the Bourne Identity plot, which I think Amazon will take (so stupid they are). Bond is found to be suffering from severe amnesia. Bond recovers from his wounds, finds a crumpled bit of newspaper with the word “Vladivostok” written on it, and this word jogs his memory. Then Bond sails off for Russia in search of his past.
    I'm betting they will also use the never used idea in OHMSS of Bond face being wounded and him having plastic surgery, to justify the new actor.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    Stamper wrote: »
    The harder they fall...
    On a note re NTTD ending, I think they can go by using Fleming own's solution.
    Remember, in YOLT, "Bond –in searing pain– heads for the wooden box that controls the volcanic eruptions which he cranks before fleeing the castle which is set to explode, but in the escape, Bond is sent crashing downward into the sea where he is rescued."
    (NTTD being largely inspired by YOLT).
    That's point one. They will show Bond being blasted away and found floating in the sea. Next in the novel, is the Bourne Identity plot, which I think Amazon will take (so stupid they are). Bond is found to be suffering from severe amnesia. Bond recovers from his wounds, finds a crumpled bit of newspaper with the word “Vladivostok” written on it, and this word jogs his memory. Then Bond sails off for Russia in search of his past.
    I'm betting they will also use the never used idea in OHMSS of Bond face being wounded and him having plastic surgery, to justify the new actor.

    No, they will keep it simple for the new wave of audiences that don't read anymore. Get ready for a cinematic Moonraker remake....
  • DaltonforyouDaltonforyou The Daltonator
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    I'm still holding out some hope that the regulators will nix this deal.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    I'm still holding out some hope that the regulators will nix this deal.

    What, deal Bezos a bad hand?
  • Posts: 2,168
    So, Bond will have the face of a young man but the body of an old man. I'm thinking, no.
  • Maybe Amazon can do a do a belated 60th anniversary of Dr No as EON didn’t seem to do much
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Didn't they? I remember quite a lot going on.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    They released a DN steelbook with Dragon tank figure. That's better than a spit in the face.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited March 15 Posts: 18,580
    I wonder if we'll ever get a Never Send Flowers steelbook with Dragonpol on the cover? I can dream!
  • QBranch wrote: »
    They released a DN steelbook with Dragon tank figure. That's better than a spit in the face.
    QBranch wrote: »
    They released a DN steelbook with Dragon tank figure. That's better than a spit in the face.

    Just bought that recently. Nice but not much else seemed to have happened. The odd documentary but nothing we hadn’t really seen before.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    For the 60th? I mean I went to a massive concert with Shirley Bassey and Lulu and David Arnold performing and all that, I thought it was a nice celebration.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    manover wrote: »

    Interesting

    David Heyman has a track record fo success, but mainly in genres aimed at children / teenage / fantasy audiences, and none in the genres that could be interpreted as encompassing James Bond, with the possible exception of "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood".

    Amy Pascal has a track record of success in superhero genre and movies featuring women as the central protagonists. In the genres that could be interpreted as encompassing James Bond, she has produced "Molly's Game" and "The Girl In The Spiders Web".

    The odds on a female James Bond just shortened?

  • K2WIK2WI Europe
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    Seve wrote: »
    manover wrote: »

    Interesting

    David Heyman has a track record fo success, but mainly in genres aimed at children / teenage / fantasy audiences, and none in the genres that could be interpreted as encompassing James Bond, with the possible exception of "Once Upon A Time In Hollywood".

    Amy Pascal has a track record of success in superhero genre and movies featuring women as the central protagonists. In the genres that could be interpreted as encompassing James Bond, she has produced "Molly's Game" and "The Girl In The Spiders Web".

    The odds on a female James Bond just shortened?

    I don’t think Pascal’s potential hiring will shorten those odds. Amazon have said they’re keeping Bond British and male, and given Pascal’s prior connections with the franchise and Barbara Broccoli* (who reiterated she would do the same), I wouldn’t be shocked if she shares that view with them.

    *Pascal was CEO of Sony Pictures when they were co-producing Bond with MGM and EON, leaving the company during the production of Spectre, and multiple sources in the years since have stated she was still on good terms with Barbara Broccoli even after this professional partnership ended.
  • Posts: 2,168
    A female James Bond? Where does this lunacy come from?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Oh yes, let's attack the *new* female producer...
  • Posts: 2,168
    Not a thing wrong with a female producer. A female James Bond is idiocy.
  • SeveSeve The island of Lemoy
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    A female James Bond? Where does this lunacy come from?
    echo wrote: »
    Oh yes, let's attack the *new* female producer...
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Not a thing wrong with a female producer. A female James Bond is idiocy.

    lol
  • Posts: 15,474
    I learned that Amy Pascal and David Heyman will produce the next Bond film. Amy Pascal is pretty much a worst case scenario choice.
  • CuneoCuneo UK
    edited March 25 Posts: 1
    As long as the originals always exist and can be watched, I wouldn’t be averse to “special editions” of the Eon films using new technology. How about “A View to a Kill” with Roger’s face fixed, better back projection, tighter editing and no ‘California Girls’. Do you think Amazon would do that sort of thing?
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I don't know...some of the mistakes (like the wires pulling the car into the lake) I kind of like.

    It's oddly charming.
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