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Can Ireland ever be in a James Bond movie?

DipsuchosDipsuchos Ireland
in Bond 26 & Beyond Posts: 12
Hi guys, I made a video on this topic and would love some feedback on it. Personally I don't think they could ever do one because of the situation in the North of Ireland during the 60s-90s, and which still prevents them doing it to this day out of the sensitivity of the issue. However, I do feel with the changeover to Amazon, that they might be willing to throw caution to the wind and do an IRA plotline in a future bond, especially if that mad rumour is true to bring pierce back, who has said he would be interested in an IRA plotline.

If anyone would like to see the video, I would be grateful -
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  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    edited April 3 Posts: 85
    Quality video.

    Bond coming to Ireland could be great. We can get Kneecap to do the theme.

    However, could it not be an IRA plotline? By all means have the film in Ireland but do not attempt any 'troubles' commentary whatsoever.

    Seems to be a niche conflict these days. Troubles Porn. Even Disney have a controversial troubles-era programme.

    Location, yes, but we don't need a 'history' lesson.

  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    edited April 3 Posts: 85
    Brosnan played a Gerry Adams clone in some Jackie Chan shit years ago. If they are doing 'troubles' they'll need someone a little less 'involved'.

    Maybe get Sean Bean to reprise his godawful turn in 'Patriot Games' and we can have ourselves a Goldeneye reunion.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    Brosnan, I've heard, is a bit of a tory. He played a Gerry Adams clone in some Jackie Chan shit years ago, too. If they are doing 'troubles' they'll need someone a little less 'involved'

    A Martin Campbell movie.
  • DipsuchosDipsuchos Ireland
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    He morphed into Gerry a few years back, yes ha. It was awful movie. I think if they do the movie in Ireland and didnt mention the North it would be seen as insensitive too. Dammed if you do and damned if you dont!
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    A Martin Campbell movie.

    Martin Campbell can only direct Bond movies!

  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 85
    Dipsuchos wrote: »
    He morphed into Gerry a few years back, yes ha. It was awful movie. I think if they do the movie in Ireland and didnt mention the North it would be seen as insensitive too. Dammed if you do and damned if you dont!

    Ways and means, chief. A friend of mine did a fan fiction a few years back, in which Bond went to Ireland. His contact was an Irish agent originally from the North. Some banter between the two, buddy-cop like. It was a laugh-riot.

    No need to dredge up the troubles for a plot device and the North would be MI5's beat, anyway.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    A Martin Campbell movie.

    Martin Campbell can only direct Bond movies!

    I'm shying away from this discussion, since my knowledge of the situation is limited, but Martin Campbell did make a superb Zorro movie too. Just wanted to point that out :)
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 85
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    A Martin Campbell movie.

    Martin Campbell can only direct Bond movies!

    I'm shying away from this discussion, since my knowledge of the situation is limited, but Martin Campbell did make a superb Zorro movie too. Just wanted to point that out :)

    With Antonio Banderas as 007!

    He did Edge of Darkness tv and film. The tv show being superior.
  • meshypushymeshypushy Ireland
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    I think any inclination to do anything vaguely IRA related would feel unoriginal and regressive (hopefully ‘The Devil’s Own’ was the nail on that particular coffin). I can’t see how Bond visiting Ireland for any other reason would be vaguely contentious these days though (as per MI: Fallout). Ireland has some incredible scenery but personally I’d take Scotland as a backdrop over anything Ireland could offer as Bond location any day.
  • GerardGerard
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    IIRC, Bond went to Ireland in John Gardner's No Deals, Mr. Bond.
  • DipsuchosDipsuchos Ireland
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    Martin Campell was the king of Bond rebooting - Goldeneye and casino royale. I do wonder if they will dredge him back up for Bond 26
  • DipsuchosDipsuchos Ireland
    Posts: 12
    meshypushy wrote: »
    I think any inclination to do anything vaguely IRA related would feel unoriginal and regressive (hopefully ‘The Devil’s Own’ was the nail on that particular coffin). I can’t see how Bond visiting Ireland for any other reason would be vaguely contentious these days though (as per MI: Fallout). Ireland has some incredible scenery but personally I’d take Scotland as a backdrop over anything Ireland could offer as Bond location any day.

    Yeah Devil's own was mad. Actually, twice Harrison ford fought the IRA (Patriot games was the other). He must have it in for them!
  • meshypushymeshypushy Ireland
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    Dipsuchos wrote: »
    Yeah Devil's own was mad. Actually, twice Harrison ford fought the IRA (Patriot games was the other). He must have it in for them!
    I forgot about Patriot Games - criminal underuse of Patrick Bergin in that! Brad’s accent in The Devil’s Own is actually quite impressive.
  • DipsuchosDipsuchos Ireland
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    meshypushy wrote: »
    Dipsuchos wrote: »
    Yeah Devil's own was mad. Actually, twice Harrison ford fought the IRA (Patriot games was the other). He must have it in for them!
    I forgot about Patriot Games - criminal underuse of Patrick Bergin in that! Brad’s accent in The Devil’s Own is actually quite impressive.

    Have you seen that saint Patrick paddy bergin movie? Criminal overuse of his accent there!

    st-patrick-dvd.jpg
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Gerard wrote: »
    IIRC, Bond went to Ireland in John Gardner's No Deals, Mr. Bond.

    Red Grant in FRWL novel has a connection to Ireland. Robert Shaw lived and sadly died in Mayo.
  • DipsuchosDipsuchos Ireland
    Posts: 12
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    IIRC, Bond went to Ireland in John Gardner's No Deals, Mr. Bond.

    Red Grant in FRWL novel has a connection to Ireland. Robert Shaw lived and sadly died in Mayo.

    Indeed, he is an IRA man
  • meshypushymeshypushy Ireland
    Posts: 176
    Dipsuchos wrote: »
    meshypushy wrote: »
    Dipsuchos wrote: »
    Yeah Devil's own was mad. Actually, twice Harrison ford fought the IRA (Patriot games was the other). He must have it in for them!
    I forgot about Patriot Games - criminal underuse of Patrick Bergin in that! Brad’s accent in The Devil’s Own is actually quite impressive.

    Have you seen that saint Patrick paddy bergin movie? Criminal overuse of his accent there!

    st-patrick-dvd.jpg
    Wow - I’ve never seen this, one for my list! If someone would give Flatley another $6 million, he might make a sequel to this!

    I’ve no idea why Patrick (Bergin, not the saint) didn’t have a bigger career in Hollywood. It seemed to be all going in the right direction for him and then within a few years, he was on the scrap heap.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 3 Posts: 17,667
    He was actually in that Flatley thing wasn't he? I will do that at some point, looks a hoot.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 85
    Bond, played by Patrick Bergin, infiltrates a ghost-cell IRA unit fronted by notorious hardman Michael Flatley, and recruits his dad Pierce Brosnan to help fight Gerry Adams.

    Martin Campbell directs.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited April 3 Posts: 4,965
    Hey man, I've only skimmed through the video briefly, and can't say anything about the substance of this (or anything about Bond going to Ireland) but I will say well done on your video. I hope you keep going with your thoughts, and anyone that commits to making an hour long video has something to them. I'm sorry I can't say anything more substantial about this, but well done to you as a content creator/editor (I know how hard it can be). I'll try to give it a proper watch when I can.
  • GerardGerard
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    Bond also made a stop in Dublin airport while on his way to the US in Diamonds are forever. He was not impressed, that's the least we can say.
  • meshypushymeshypushy Ireland
    Posts: 176
    mtm wrote: »
    He was actually in that Flatley thing wasn't he? I will do that at some point, looks a hoot.
    Yes he was! The conspiracy theories behind the movie were quite entertaining but the truth was that he borrowed $6 million from an associate, made a truly awful Bond knockoff, paid for an award at the ‘Monaco Streaming Film Festival’ (which didn’t seem to exist) and then couldn’t find anyone dumb enough to distribute it. It’s the kind of low rent crap that Amazon would pay for (!).
    I’ve actually bumped into Flatley quite a few times and he’s an entertaining guy - just keep him away from your wife if she’s tall and blonde…
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Gerard wrote: »
    Bond also made a stop in Dublin airport while on his way to the US in Diamonds are forever. He was not impressed, that's the least we can say.

    Fleming probably hated the Irish. Seems to have hated everyone else.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited April 4 Posts: 3,877
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    Bond also made a stop in Dublin airport while on his way to the US in Diamonds are forever. He was not impressed, that's the least we can say.

    Fleming probably hated the Irish. Seems to have hated everyone else.

    I think that's the mindset of almost the majority of British people in World War 2/the Churchill Era.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 85
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    Bond also made a stop in Dublin airport while on his way to the US in Diamonds are forever. He was not impressed, that's the least we can say.

    Fleming probably hated the Irish. Seems to have hated everyone else.

    I think that's the mindset of almost the majority of British people in World War 2/the Churchill Era.

    No excuse.
  • WhyBondWhyBond USA
    Posts: 73
    IMO they need more varied European locales in the Bond movies. The European architecture it fitting for 007 and the spy theme. So I hope Amazon explore more varied European settings for the next guy.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 85
    WhyBond wrote: »
    IMO they need more varied European locales in the Bond movies. The European architecture it fitting for 007 and the spy theme. So I hope Amazon explore more varied European settings for the next guy.

    On a doomed mission to Skegness...
  • Since62Since62
    Posts: 1,721
    WhyBond wrote: »
    IMO they need more varied European locales in the Bond movies. The European architecture it fitting for 007 and the spy theme. So I hope Amazon explore more varied European settings for the next guy.

    Really ? Craig's Bond was VERY Euro-centered, though with good doses of other locales. If anything, I would have thought a break from Europe would be in order, other than, perhaps, London scenes to hook up with Sylvia Trench, get the assignment, flirt with Moneypenny and head out. One thing's for sure, though, they won't violate the law against having Bond in Canada.
  • WhyBondWhyBond USA
    Posts: 73
    Since62 wrote: »
    WhyBond wrote: »
    IMO they need more varied European locales in the Bond movies. The European architecture it fitting for 007 and the spy theme. So I hope Amazon explore more varied European settings for the next guy.

    Really ? Craig's Bond was VERY Euro-centered, though with good doses of other locales. If anything, I would have thought a break from Europe would be in order, other than, perhaps, London scenes to hook up with Sylvia Trench, get the assignment, flirt with Moneypenny and head out. One thing's for sure, though, they won't violate the law against having Bond in Canada.

    Very Italian centric.
    If Bond could borrow anything from Le Carre it is to use those gritty European locales. The locales should be more varied across the next actors tenure. Let's use Romania, Estonia, or Slovenia. Something like that. The European culture is under represented.
    With Amazon they might want to use more American locales which I am against unless it's an exotic locale or something like New York.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 17,667
    Since62 wrote: »
    WhyBond wrote: »
    IMO they need more varied European locales in the Bond movies. The European architecture it fitting for 007 and the spy theme. So I hope Amazon explore more varied European settings for the next guy.

    Really ? Craig's Bond was VERY Euro-centered, though with good doses of other locales. If anything, I would have thought a break from Europe would be in order, other than, perhaps, London scenes to hook up with Sylvia Trench, get the assignment, flirt with Moneypenny and head out. One thing's for sure, though, they won't violate the law against having Bond in Canada.

    Canada is a bit like Ireland when it comes to Bond to me: both great countries and wonderful to visit, but neither feels very Bond to me for some reason. Not very exotic somehow, I can't put my finger on why. Australia probably too, and obviously that's also a great place. But there's something not very 'spy' about them.
    But, y'know, they could pop up in the next one and be brilliant, may well be wrong.
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