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PS I'm stretching things here but another issue is how easily Silva attacks M at the enquiry, she just sits there giving poetry whilst Tanner gets a warning for her to leave via his laptop and Bond runs to the enquiry rather than just phoning security to have the building locked down (again, they have to do this to create the iconic Tennyson scene. )So, my version...once Silva escapes, he asks his team in the fake police car "where is she", they tell him that she is giving evidence in a certain building, he orders for the building coms to be cut (explaining why Bond can't call them on their digital phone system and Tanner receives no warning) . Q informs Bond that the building has been isolated, adding more urgency to his sprinting and more evidence for him (and the audience) that they need to escape the digital environment (which Bond obviously does straight after the enquiry attack) in order to even up the game.
PS to replace the "Home Alone" prep stuff, we could have seen more of Kincade as he was a great character. I would have loved to see the three of them play poker in the kitchen for buttons, (drinking Kincade's scotch) as a nod to CR and "the calm before the storm"
PPS Kincade's dogs are killed by Silva's men, adding to the cruel image of Silva and creating empathy for Kincade's character.
Aye, it's a terrible scheme.
Me too, my friend, me too. Exactly the way I see it.
In a Bond film, a defeated villain means all problems are over. 😊 Otherwise, there'd still be a diamond powered laser satellite floating around in space since the early '70s.
The list issue is solved once Silva is captured. He wasn't that interested in it anyway, he was only doing it in order to get captured.
I’m just poking fun at the fans that get way too fixated on that kind of stuff, and how they take things way too literally.
Like the idea that Silva “planned” specifically for Bond to follow him down the tunnel and have a train ready to crash on top of him. I never read it like that. I figured Silva was always going to derail a train, whether Bond or anyone else was standing under it or not.
I dunno, I think if some people spent half as much time trying to work out why they don't like the film rather than trying to point out illogicalities, it'd probably be more worthwhile (and honestly, not liking a film is fair enough and can down to many things - maybe it's not what we as individual fans want from a Bond film, which is a whole other discussion. Maybe certain moments don't work for certain viewers etc.) It just seems like there's much more to talk about with this film's story - positive or negative - rather than why Q leaving digital 'breadcrumbs' or Silva setting up a trap for Bond is somehow stupid...
The concepts are fine, the execution is poor. The Silvas plans make sense motivationally, but not practically. It takes me out of the film when the Subway crashes through the wall and... nothing else happens, no one is shown being hurt, and Bond just moves on and we never go back to this massive terrorist incident. It's silly. The trap could have been better. Everything about Skyfall and Spectre had decent ideas poorly executed, minus the brothers angle, which is just pure stupid.
Sam Mendes has a way of showing you events without immersing me in them. My fav part of Skyfall was actually directed by Chris Corbould.
To each their own, and if it takes you out of the film that's really all there is to it. I've never questioned the tube explosion (it's simply a distraction to slow Bond down, and for me that's why it works as a plot event/is compelling - we're invested in Bond stopping Silva and he loses him again because the villain gets the better of our hero).
Bond films are often outlandish and even get to a point where stuff doesn't actually make sense, but personally I've always been in that headspace with SF anyway. To be honest, it actually isn't completely illogical either - it's an empty train in an abandoned part of the underground, so it's not quite the major casualty filled terrorist attack you're implying, at least in the context of the film. We also see firemen and police going into the underground when Bond runs up, traffic at a standstill etc. There's very much a sense that the explosion has happened and has made an impact, even if it's just a disruption without casualties.
That's about right.
SF as a film is okay, it looks pretty and has some good, if unexceptional performances.
It's whenever it gets rated as premier Bond, as it frequently does, which gets me.
It's nowhere near.
But to some it is the best— are you going to tell them they’re wrong?
What if those same people who think Skyfall is number one, turned around and told you that your favourite Bond picture is nowhere close to being number one? Not even close. Bit disrespectful, no?
Let people enjoy what they want to enjoy. Life is far more enjoyable that way.
Ah okay, apologies. Sarcasm is hard to pick up on in text form.
Yeah, there's no one on the train except the driver; innocent people don't get hurt in Bond films. They tried that in QoS with the lorry driver and lady at the Palio getting shot and it just felt too wrong.
In skyfall, lots of innocent people die. Severine, the police at the tribunal, the victims at the mi6 base...Need to stop inventing excuses for plot incoherence.
The train crash had no innocent victims because blanking victims would invoke awkward conversations about the London 2005 terror attacks.
However, it's also how Silva had such lined up, as part of his ludicrous escape plan, which is the clinching point.
Still entertaining, in a mindless sort of way.
Don’t talk to me like that please. Nothing here is incoherent. Any consistencies have the same ‘excuse’ they do in any Bond: it’s extremely entertaining.
Aye, it's a bit of a wheeze, alright, but definitely not one of the best. In terms of 'comedy Bonds', it would finish well beneath Goldfinger and any Roger Moore bar TMWTGG.
Maybe not on your list but it is on mine. There’s no objective placement for it, the closest we have I guess is rotten tomatoes with its 92/86% rating, where it ranks above the majority.
C'mon, @mtm, this person is telling you how you should feel about a film; why on earth you're not submitting to AnotherZorinStooge is beyond me! He obviously knows what's right for us. After all, we can enjoy Skyfall, just not if we think it's a top James Bond film.
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Bardem being the bad guy is very Brexit-esque.