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Open the mind too much and out pops the brain. Impossible to overthink and whatnot.
In all honesty, I'd have more respect for Silva if his ubiquity manifested itself in an elaborate laser, used to shoot M on the toilet when she's taking a particularly nasty tom-tit.
Then what's confusing you?
The plot to Skyfall was confused, prompting its defenders/detractors to pick apart its content. There's no real consensus on it. We detractors insist it's an incoherent plot and would digress on whether it could have been saved (in the nay camp).
Defenders will find ways to excuse its arrant, myriad inconsistencies. That's maybe you SF, but it's me for, per se, AVTAK.
That is literally what this thread is for: thedove asked us for fun explanations as to how the plot works. Play the game or don't. We're not here to gripe and whinge about what we don't like about it, you've already taken over another thread doing that.
We've all been explaining how the plot can make sense, in the fiction of the world- not as a film. If you're saying those explanations we've presented don't make sense then at least have the courtesy to explain why you don't think they do.
I really like the writing style of your posts 🤣 I don’t know why, I find them kinda flowery with little words that feel like they’ve been searched in a thesaurus (the alliteration of carious contrivances converge is very satisfying). Anyway, a little detour there….
I don’t think any of Silva’s escape is a plot hole more than it is contrivance (within reason anyway - it’s a Bond film after all). Q says Silva’s using certain protocols on his laptop that he invented and only a certain number of people can program (Silva’s a cyberterrorist/adept at this stuff so clearly he’s kept up to date with said protocols, likely knows roughly who Q is as he invented the protocols, and in this instance Silva essentially hacked MI6’s system knowing Q would be called in to encrypt his computer and how he’d do it, hence the ‘not such a clever boy’ message). Likely that alone would have taken years to plan.
The train explosion in the abandoned station is a distraction in case Silva was pursued. Not sure what’s wrong with that other than it’s an elaborate Bond villain moment…
Presumably Silva’s capture/escape was planned around M’s court hearing, which would have been done a bit closer to the time… I guess…
I mean, apart from the last bit (and let’s be honest, no one wants to hear the very specific details of exactly how Silva did all this), it’s all there in the film pretty much. It’s elaborate but not completely off the wall I’d say (although there’s nothing wrong with some off the wall ideas in Bond). The general sense is Silva’s planned much of this in advance and he’s adept at manipulating the situation to achieve his goals as we’ve seen him do throughout the film. To some extent there’s not much to add in terms of theories…it’s certainly not as head scratching as something like Jaques Bouvar dressing up as his own widow to his fake funeral in TB, or many other odd Bond plot moments. There’s a clear understanding of why he’s done this and actually a relatively good justification of how.
I suppose if you wanted to you could think about what Silva’s contingency plans were if it hadn’t gone exactly the way it did in the film, but it’s a thought exercise and you kinda have to feel what’s going on with the film and what it’s telling you. Ie - what if Bond had tried to kill Silva on the island? Well, the impression I get is Silva was very in control and had captured Bond anyway… I dunno, if he had to counterattack and kill Bond maybe he’d have just tricked the MI6 back-up into coming and gotten himself captured that way (although the sense in the film is that they needed him in order to question him about what he’d done, and he knew that).
Not related, but sort of. I'm interested in both crime fiction and crime history. I read about the Montreal's bikers war of the 90s. While we thought at the time that the murders and attempted murders of prison guards and public figures were elaborate schemes done by ruthless criminal genuises, we now know from insiders' sources that they were botched plans often poorly improvised, with shoddy motivations at best. We thought they were playing 3D chess, in fact they were showing up with a baseball bat and kicking the board. I'm not saying Silva is from the same mold, but I'm saying that even in real life, sometimes the stars align for something to happen and what seems to be a daring strategy is no strategy at all, just a gamble.
Lets move to another film with a memorable villain. TMWTGG is a guilty pleasure of mine. This one thing has perplexed me, and I hope that the esteemed community can help me with something that has puzzled me.
Lt. Hip finds Bond at the scene of the death of Gibson. Sensing there might be trouble with the authorities he whisks Bond off. Seems reasonable and a good plan. But he then proceeds to be silent when Bond asks questions. When they get to the boat, Bond points out that they are going the wrong way. Lt Hip stays quiet again. Bond finally decides to make a dash for it fearing that he is captured by the enemy. He bounds off the boat and climbs around the outside of the Queen Elizabeth only to discover it is a secret safe house for Mi6. It is later revealed that Hip is working as an ally to Bond.
What is the theory as to why Lt. Hip would be silent after whisking Bond away?
Aye, he just palled about for the craic.
Had he not drove off from the kung-fu fightin', we'd be spared Sgt Pepper's Lonely Farts Band.
Not least for the possibility of being fired and moving on to work with Julie Rogers.
Later when career opportunities dried up, Lt Hip took some well-deserved time off to reassess.
He could be very, very nasty, if he wanted to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dD7g6xS6Xs&t=92s
I can see it now: Lt. Hip to be Square. Amazon, are you reading this? You should be!
On to another film and another theory. This one also features gold.
Bond has been caught and is being escorted back to the Goldfinger's factory. The poor guy is ejected and Bond makes a run for the it. However he is stopped by an elderly lady who is the gatehouse guard in addition to being a cook.
I always wondered why or how is this sweet old lady a gate house guard?
How did the elderly lady come to be a gatehouse guard for Goldfinger?
She obviously is handy with a machine gun, she is a cook and she is polite to guests, even those that are captured at gun point.
How did she come to work here? Did GF owe her? Or did she apply and get hired not knowing what she was in for?
Questions, questions, all it is is questions. Lets hear some theories.
https://www.reddit.com/r/JamesBond/comments/cs2t4h/day_237365_of_my_daily_creative_project_titled/
A grandmother as well, likely.
And apparently in 1964 most EVERYONE had an MP 40 submachine gun. Not a big deal.
Goldfinger's guards carry MP 40s, using them in most major gunfights of the film, with even Goldfinger himself using one briefly during the Fort Knox raid. This gun is also tested on a bulletproof vest in Q's lab. The old lady working as a gatekeeper to
A researcher (Bob Simmons) in Q's lab fires an MP 40 into George Leech to test out body armor. For some reason, this requires a live subject and is being conducted in an open workshop.
Goldfinger's guard fires at Bond and Tilly with an MP 40.
The guards with MP 40s on their backs lead Bond to his Aston Martin.
The Swiss Gatekeeper (Varley Thomas) shoots at Bond's Aston Martin with her MP 40. Trivia Note: Surely she is one of the most terrifying opponents the cinematic Bond has ever faced!
Goldfinger himself picks up an MP 40 during the raid on Ft. Knox (with his eyes closed again!) Note that he is actually holding the weapon in a correct manner (just behind the magazine). Not surprising considering that Gert Fröbe was drafted into the Wehrmacht in 1944 and served until the end of the war.
FFS 007
Bond the sentimentalist.