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Design was basically the same as the QOS one, it's still too quick but it's an improvement with the walk and pose.
Should've been at the start. It was a nice opening shot but they shouldn't have sacrificed the gunbarrel for it. Somebody suggested having the dot shrink like in the early 60s films, I think that's a great idea and would've worked perfectly.
It does make sense with the ending I suppose, but I'd have preferred it at the start.
It's managed to make the QOS one even worse. Before, it had the whole "it was the end of the Bond Begins arc" excuse, now it doesn't even have that!
Put it at the start of the next one with the proper music where you know it belongs MGW and Babs
Kidding of course.
As for the film - I loved every frame of it; it's fantastic and Craig gives a superb performance. As does the entire cast.
While I understand it being at the end of QOS it really deserved to be at the beginning of SF. For Babarra to say they couldn't make it fit at the beginning is cr*p. it felt rushed using it at the end and the 50th anniversary logo was out of place, this should have been at the end of the credits
When u see the film you'll see why it plainly didn't work having the GB at the start.
It would be utterly crazy for the filmmakers to simply keep the GB at the start to satisfy a few fans if they knew that it wasn't working well. Remember the director and his editor would have tried many ways to make the GB work with the opening shot, but clearly it just wasn't working. Simple as that. End of story.
See the film, and you'll know why the GB was not sitting well with the brilliant opening reveal of Bond.
Firstly I watched it yesterday
Secondly the GB worked for 16 films prior so all of a sudden you can't make it work for this film??
Bond appears in a dark hallway, so you could have easily had a subtle GB music with the small white dot e.g FRWL/GF then picking up bond in the hallway.
It obviously it didn't work well or else they would have left the GB at the beginning; simple as that.
Read back on my earlier post when I worked on LTK and I explain that even back then we struggled to create a good transition between the GB and the opening shot; and none of team was particularly satisfied with the final result.
The problem on LTK was having to get the WHITE DOT to move back, whilst still making it appear as a fluid move, to almost centre screen to keep the radar plane in the middle of the DOT as it opened up. It looks like they had a similar problem on Skyfall because Bond's out of focus figure is also centre screen, so the transition would have been an almost direct visual mix between Bond in GB with the blood, mixing to the moving WHITE DOT moving back to Bond, out of focus, centre screen. And obviously it just wasn't proving to be a transition that satisfied Sam Mendes, Stuart Baird or the producers.
Not sure if I get my point across too well here, not great with the words, but hope you see that I'm getting at......
You ignore the point about the white dot shrinking to black before the opening shot. And LTK? What about all the films before and since where it has worked just fine? AVTAK opens in a similar fashion to LTK, in that an airborne vehicle is the focus.
I actually think, having seen the film now, that all this opening shot stuff is guff. I reckon the gunbarrel was always intended to be at the end to fit in with what happens.
As long as Bond 24 starts with it, that's fine. There really, really is no excuse not to now.
We've had our Batman Begins Bond (CR), we've had our Borne Bond (qoS) and we've had our Dark Knight Rises Bond (SF). Finally, we should get our Bond Bond for number 24.
The DOT went to black in FRWL and GF because it was a direct cut to the opening scenes, the GB from DN was spliced onto FRWL and GF.
Since TB (when they re-shot the GB) the DOT has opened out to reveal the opening shot. The LTK GB transition was a bit of a problem, the positioning of the moving plane and the timing of the transition to make it as smooth as possible took some fiddling with. The AVTAK copter sweeps into shot, moving directly away from camera, and was obviously an easier transition.
Having seen Skyfall's superb opening shot I can see (having also directed and designed, in the past, some title sequences myself for HBO/BBC and feature films) the problem Mendes and Stuart Baird had with the Skyfall GB transition.
Mendes is not talking "guff" when he explains the decision to move the GB. Why on earth would he "make up" a story?
I keep hearing the "technical" argument but surly if they intended to re-use the GB then why not storyboard/shoot the opening shot to fit around the GB and not vice versa as an afterthought?
If they can have the elaborate plot to re-introduce "Moneypenny" which TBH is a part i haven't actually missed as Sam Bond/ Brosnan made the role so cringeworthy then having the GB back at the start isn't such a stretch is it?
Because that opening became something else, they haven't planned also weren't going to just drop it for the sake of the GB. Do I miss it? Yes. Will I have sleepless nights because of it? Sincerely doubt it.
Either the GB was put in at the end for arristic reasons to signify that all the traditional elements are now in place and it's business as usual or because they couldn't work out how to do it at the start bit that's just incompetent planning as the GB IS the opening shot if you ask me. To say 'we just stuck it on the end because it wasn't working' makes you look stupid it seems like you've only considered the GB 10 seconds before the curtain goes up - and judging by the design that sounds about right.
I feel sorry for DC - possibly the best Bond ever and yet he still hasn't had a proper GB.
If knowing where to put a gunbarrel means I think I can craft a better film then fine.