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Just like LTK is now in a lot of members top ten now.
I don't think people will appreciate it 'a lot' more. I think it's a mid-table, decent movie. But I do think the detractors will calm down overtime and realise it's actually nowhere near as bad as some of them make out.
Skyfall may have problems with its plotting but, as a piece of entertainment, I much prefer it. There are more compelling scenes and the film has a more traditional (yet still impressive) feeling to it production-wise.
I know I am being too worked up about it, but when in an op article someone makes a list of the ten most overrated movies of cinema, I expect someone's honest and knowledgeable opinion on such question. SF is not the most overrated movie in history, it is not even the most overrated Bond movie or the most overrated Mendes movie.
One thing I like about Skyfall is if you watched it on a huge imax screen (like I did), during the scene in Scotland, you feel like you were actually there.
It may not be the best film ever, but this is debatable. I respect those who think it is. My issue with this list is that it is as silly as those "best movies ever" list do not have one film older than twenty years old.
That's what I love about many of the 60s films (particularly FRWL, TB, YOLT and OHMSS), you felt like you were there with the characters rather than just watching them being there. I think SF does a relatively decent job at re-capturing that.
Exactly. It highlights the transparent nature of these exercises. Worthless. People make lists to justify things to themselves. It's all a load of old bollocks. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
I actually think George and Diana's onscreen romance is probably the most convincing in the series. That barn scene at the end genuinely makes me a little tear-y when I watch it. They feel like a real couple planning their future. Diana in particular is brilliant and rubs off (metaphorically) on George. Tim and Marian didn't get this reaction from me and neither did Dan or Eva (it takes quite a lot for me to get emotional in films). They did have some nice scenes, but I never felt myself welling up like I did with George and Diana. It's just the little lines of dialogue that make it feel so natural and believable:
"Sorry about the accommodation Contessa"
"We should have rung ahead and booked"
"...I understand...we'll just have to go on the way we are"
"...I wonder how much they're asking for this place" (the barn)
(I'm quite sure Barry's score plays a part too)
GF is the most uplifting of all Bond films.
Never in the history of cinema did a man move on screen as well as Sean Connery. Nor exhibit such a lethal combo of charm and malelvolance, not to mention wit.
Never did suits look as good on a mere mortal, although George Clooney does rival in the modern era.
GF is the ultimate Spyfy genre classic - the template for not only Bond but the whole genre. Someday I am going to waste an entire day, watching GF in the morning, followed by a binge of classic Man From Uncle and Avengers episodes of the era.
GF sits on a pedestal!! I love this film!
Seconded. It was bloody awful.
I didn't think it was awful, in fact I enjoyed it when I watched it at the cinema, but it is a shallow piece of entertainment that takes itself far too seriously as a moralistic eco-fable. Technically, it is an achievement, but the story, characters and the themes are very thin. Which is my main gripe about most of Cameron's movies: they are dumb action movies trying to pass as Citizen Kane. They would be better if they were as intelligent as they were pretentious.
That said, Avatar is not the most overrated film ever. I don't know if Titanic deserves this crown, but it is already far more overrated than Avatar, as it won best picture, as if it was anything more than a banal love story set on a sinking boat.
With "of all time" in the title, I would assume so. But that just shows how ignorant the author of the article is. But I must concur, "shit" is perhaps the best word to describe that film.
DAD?
I think he has said somewhere else that he prefers either Dalton movie over any of the Brosnan films, so I doubt he regards DAD as underrated...
As long as its not DAF or MWTGG I'm happy.
Well, he says in the article that TLD is perhaps still the most underrated Bond movie amongst the wider public. I'd agree. It's a top 5 entry for me. I have noticed more and more people mentioning how much they like Dalton though. Was speaking to a friend who is just a casual Bond fan the other day who said how they'd stopped watching the films during the Brosnan era. And then said - 'I quite liked that Dalton guy though'. Think it's a bit of a generational thing. There is a small group who actually grew up with Dalts as Bond, as they are now reaching that age where their views are being heard in the media - hence all the recent articles mentioning how great he was.
I like Dalton's films, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call them underrated. Perhaps to an extent, but they do have their flaws as well as their strengths. TLD and LTK are #13 and #14 in my current rankings. Good solid films with some great moments, but not particularly remarkable or "classic" overall IMO. I'd put YOLT and OP above both.
I'm a big fan of YOLT and OP, so don't have a problem with you ranking them above TLD or LTK at all. I personally rank them both above LTK. I do think TLD is very close to being a classic though. And I do think TLD is underrated amongst the wider audience. It's surprising the number of casual fans who just dismiss the Dalton movies out of hand - often, I suspect, without ever having seen them. There was such a consensus in the 90s about the Dalton films being a flop (just as there had been a consensus earlier about OHMSS being a dud) that it was almost as if the issue wasn't up for conversation. Dalton's reputation has had to come from a very long way down to reach the point today where a lot of people are happy to talk about his Bond having been ahead of its time and actually (shock, horror) really rather good.
I enjoyed it when I saw it again last week, but I think i'd still put it mid-table over all.
I think there are parts of lots of the movies that are a tad dull. Overall though, I think TLD is a quality entry.
It's one of my all time favourites, but am not going to throw my rattle out of the pram if you disagree!