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That's true, I forgot about that....... ok I was a bit harsh.
That's an even better idea.
I think the MP character was fun, and she acted well.
An example of how to do this kind of thing properly was showing in the Bourne Supremacy, when Marie was dispatched at the beginning of the film. We felt for Bourne because we remembered Bourne Identity & their relationship - using the same actors helped. Remembering that they both wanted peace and quiet that they could never have helped too.
However I must say PB did a masterclass bit of acting in that scene (so much better than he delivered in subsequent movies). All the way to the big goodbye smooooch at the end. Totally a Bond way of saying goodbye, after taking out Kaufmann.
Might have had Paris be part of a flashback PTS, kinda how Goldeneye's PTS is set nine years earlier than the films events.
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One of the most disappointing Bond girls and Bond relationships. I suspect they gave her this history with Bond just so he could bed her quickly, without going through the whole seduction process.
A friend said to me that it was the rare times Bond would have had to compete directly against a Special Effects behemoth like Titanic. He went on to say that the increased action was, to him, an experiment by the Producers to really sell Bond as an "action hero" that could compete against such films as well as satisfying the regular fans.
It's not something I necessarily agree with, but it was an interesting point if you take the line that the Brosnan era was a trial run in terms of ideas for what would come later - and would culminate with Skyfall eclipsing a huge film like The Dark Knight Rises, fifteen years later.
There are several positives about this movie:
- Brosnan seems more comfortable and at ease as 007
- Johnathan Pryce as Elliot Carver was enjoyable.. maybe a bit hammy, but i bought into that with his character.
- David Arnold's score.
- Michelle Yeoh as Wai Lin was excellent - and a very worthy ally for Bond.
- The Dr. Kaufman scene
- The Parking garage getaway.
but the film i don't think can pry itself away from it's cliche's - which one would think works to it's benefit, but it ends up holding the film back in a lot of ways.. like shoehorning in an unnecessary love angle at the end between Bond and Wai Lin - and also weird moments, like Bond feeling the sorrow over the death of Paris, but 2 minutes later he's laughing and having a grand ol' time killing baddies in a parking garage....... but one thing this film also went on to do, was start the trend of stuntcasting big marketable female names to be opposite Brosnan as the "Bond girl" - whether they had a shred of talent didn't matter, they had a built in and bankable audience that they would try and syphon dollars from.. and yes, i am looking directly at you Terri Hatcher. lol..
at the end of the day though, TND has a good replay value for me - because it's a smooth action ride, that stays inside the lines of the Bond coloring book... but it lacks any real substance.. it's all sizzle, and no steak.
Still, point taken. TND is a safety dance.
We can dance if we shoot to
We can kill your lovers behind
'Cause your lovers don't live and if they don't live
Well, they're no tarts of mine...
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww snap!... you did not just bring up Safety Dance!!!!... one of my all time favorite songs..
It is just what I needed after a very long and somewhat difficult day.
That song is too much fun indeed. And, among other things, I'm grateful it knocked "It's a Small World" out of my head (my kindergartners are learning it in English for their Music Festival, and I think I am going insane at times).
And I love your lyrics, @chrisisall!
When a Bond girl is meant to have been too close to his heart, I expect her to seem worthy of it. She should have been far more developed and her death should have had a true impact.
i guess the original idea was that Elliot Carver was to have married Natalya from Goldeneye - and if the story of TND played out the same way, i could buy her death having an impact on Bond - but for whatever reason EON chickened out on the idea and rewrote the character as Paris...
Beside, the seduction scenes are/should be an integral part of Bond movies.
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Monica Bellucci would have certainly improved the role, but the character was poorly written. And well written, the character could have been, should have been the main Bond girl. It would have created a whole new level of enmity between Bond and Carver, something that was lacking. Instead, she is tossed aside almost the moment she is found dead.
Carver's Wife being an old love of Bond's is meant to demonstrate a mistake he made. He disappeared on her when things got too emotional, since 'emotion' isn't what Bond is most comfortable with. The POINT is to make her the sacrificial lamb on the altar of Bond's cold effin' heart, so that when his new partner Wai Lin is in a similar situation (threatened with death at Carver's hands) he blurts out "We'll finish this together" MEANING either we will both get out alive or both die. THIS is Bond going for broke. Bond getting emotional like he couldn't with Paris so long ago. He feels he got Paris killed, and if he were to get Wai Lin killed he was ready to pay the ultimate price. @-)
Okay, now shoot me down for being an idiotic romantic moron, & for reading too much into a dopey action film.... :-\"