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  • GetafixGetafix
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    The Craig era has a great Bond but not sure the movies are as good as they could or should have been.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    If Spectre is amazing, then the Craig era will be one of the best Bond eras ever.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Getafix wrote: »
    The Craig era has a great Bond but not sure the movies are as good as they could or should have been.

    Well, we all know which era you prefer :-).

  • PanchitoPistolesPanchitoPistoles 2.0
    Posts: 4,619
    Thomas Newman will compose the music for the upcoming Spielberg film Bridge of Spies (which means that film will be the first Spielberg movie since 1985 not to be scored by John Williams). The film will be released in October. Newman is also scoring the upcoming Pixar film The Good Dinosaur, to be released in November.

    The question is: will Newman have enough time to deliver a truly great score for Spectre?
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    PanchitoPistoles wrote: »
    Thomas Newman will compose the music for the upcoming Spielberg film Bridge of Spies (which means that film will be the first Spielberg movie since 1985 not to be scored by John Williams). The film will be released in October. Newman is also scoring the upcoming Pixar film The Good Dinosaur, to be released in November.

    The question is: will Newman have enough time to deliver a truly great score for Spectre?

    I think the advantage here is, that Newman confirmed himself first for "SPECTRE"
  • MalloryMallory
    Posts: 2,171
    Is Newman still doing The Good Dinosaur? My poor memory says he left when a new director took it over.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited March 2015 Posts: 4,537
    Mabey Alexandre Desplat should have done the score of Bridge Of Spies. But he already have a lot of work for this year, made him not avaible. But Newman is also bissy with Finding Nemo 2 for 2016.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    The music is my main concern about SP at the moment. I'm really hoping Newman ups his game for SP.
  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
    Posts: 1,208
    Getafix wrote: »
    The music is my main concern about SP at the moment. I'm really hoping Newman ups his game for SP.

    @Getafix You're right. Lets hope he pulls it off. He does have other commitments for other films too, but I think he will do a great job on SP.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    My main (some what trivial) concern is that the Gunbarrel might not be at the beginning (again)!
  • Bernie99Bernie99
    Posts: 257
    Mallory wrote: »
    Thomas Newman is being interviewed on Classic FM tomorrow at 5pm. Hopefully he drops some info about Spectre.

    http://www.classicfm.com/radio/shows/saturday-night-movies/thomas-randy-newman/

    Damn, anyone notice the interview?

  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    Posts: 1,731
    It's been said before - but I hope he does away with these god-awful electronic rythms that have plagued the series ever since Arnold took over.

    Something orchestral & organic would surely be more in keeping with the tone of the Craig films.Making a 007 score that features brass & wind sections doesn’t automatically mean you are copying John Barry.

    Why are there so few Barry inspired composers? We have plenty of dire Hans Zimmer clones...


  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    The CR & QOS scores are classical and have little or no electronic rythms and Arnold composed them?
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited March 2015 Posts: 1,731
    suavejmf wrote: »
    The CR & QOS scores are classical and have little or no electronic rythms and Arnold composed them?

    But not very many brass or wind sections were used. I wouldn't exactly call either CR's or QoS' scores orchestral...
    MR & OP are probably the most organic, orchestral Bond scores.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    I thought QOS was Arnold's best score so far.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Arnold is the best alternative to Barry for me. However, unfortunately Mendes probably forced the unrequired change to Newman, who's score for SF was passable.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    My main concern is that Bond wears a green tie instead of a blue one.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Just watched the SP teaser and am completely blown away. Stunning cinematography and very dark and foreboding.

    The music is excellent and adds to the tension. I wonder if Newman composed the music for the trailer. If so, we are in for a real treat when the movie is released.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    Posts: 1,756
    I really, really hope that was Newman. It sounded too good for it to be anyone else, even a trailer music production company.
  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
    edited March 2015 Posts: 157
    That was definitely a production company.

    For those doubting Thomases who think Newman doesn't have the orchestral chops for Bond, here's a selection.


    Would love something as rousing as this in SP.


















    @11:47

    And my personal favourite, and another nail coffin to those who claim Newman can't write hummable themes.


  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
    edited March 2015 Posts: 157
    suavejmf wrote: »
    The CR & QOS scores are classical and have little or no electronic rythms and Arnold composed them?

    That's patent rubbish. Both CR and QOS use a great deal of electronic loops, synth patches and sound design--more so than SF.

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    They sounded very classic to me. More classic in 'sound' than SF. I disagree.
  • aaron819aaron819 Switzerland
    Posts: 1,208
    I hope the music from the teaser was from Newman. I loved the music!!
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    The teaser trailer music was very good, very errie.
  • nobodydoesitbetternobodydoesitbetter
    Posts: 1,021
    BB mentions in one of the recent interviews that Thomas Nemman wrote some music to accompany the scènes for the shooting of the day of the dead sequence in Mexico. So I guess the extras had some background on set music to dance/walk to.
  • SuperheroSithSuperheroSith SE London
    Posts: 578
    The twinkly Bond theme in the teaser trailer after the line about the hurricane kills any doubts I had about the SP music.
  • JamesSpectreJamesSpectre
    edited March 2015 Posts: 164
    The teaser trailer music was most likely not written by Thomas Newman, but by Pfeifer Frankfort. It's a company that specializes in high-end trailer music. They also did Casino Royale and Skyfall. So the music in the trailer is no indication of what the soundtrack will sound like, as the trailer music from Skyfall wasn't either.
  • jetsetwillyjetsetwilly
    edited March 2015 Posts: 3,327
    minorMajor9th wrote: »
    That was definitely a production company.

    For those doubting Thomases who think Newman doesn't have the orchestral chops for Bond, here's a selection.

    I think you used the wrong choices there to show Newman off. The Horse Whisperer is much better (did you know Barry was originally planned to score that film, until Redford changed his mind after using Newman examples from Shawshank during filming..?)

    I read somewhere that the bulk of Beyondness of Things was the soundtrack to THW.

    Meet Joe Black is a far better soundtrack too, as is the end track and credits `So Was Red' sequence from Shawshank, which is just brilliant - absolutely superb, up there with the best of Barry!

    If Newman pulls something more along these lines out of the bag, I'll be happy.



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  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    Teaser trailer music was very nice, but it seems not by Newman.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited March 2015 Posts: 23,883
    The movies looks to be grand in scope.

    The soundtrack must match what's on screen, and at least surpass what was used in the trailer for the respective scenes (particularly the trip on the lake to White's hideout and the stealthy walk by Bond through Waltz's audience).

    I'm quietly hopeful that EON & Mendes will whip Newman into shape for what is going to be an epic Bond film by the look of it.
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