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Unless he is the best option of course. Do you have a picture? Or a xerox copy of his ass or something?
I was hoping Oberhauser having his real name revealed as 'Ernest Serban' in the Dec 1st script was a retreat from the godawful half-brother thing - not to mention the apparent removal of Irma Bundt - a gag about how everyone's expecting him to be Blofeld but he isn't. Not sure why the script would need a security measure, I believe all the relevant rights had been acquired by that point, no? The half-brother thing is my biggest issue with the script, the rest are mostly structural, some occasionally lousy dialogue (par for course recently, if we're honest) and an unconvincing Bond/Madeleine relationship - but as long as Bond and Blofeld aren't in any way related, those aren't particularly serious in and of themselves.
Fingers crossed those godawful 'Mickey Mouse' lines have been exorcised, though.
Security measure - in case it leaks...so that people like us can go WTF. :P Seriously though, it's clear as day when you look at some of the dialogue mentioning Oberhauser by name after that reveal though, like that exchange above between M and Madeleine.
And remember that in the December script (and I assume if the teaser is to go by in the film itself too), the whole half brother bit is implied since the start..so it's not exactly a twist..and we are expected to believe that he is, right until they meet - that's when the real 'twist' comes in with Bond at first being a bit like M was with Silva (a nice callback to SF), before playing his trump card and subverting the whole thing, revealing to Oberhauser for the first time that he was adopted too and his real name is Blofeld. "Who's the cuckoo now?"
I'm not questioning whether Oberhauser is Bond's adopted half-brother, which he obviously is... I'm just optimistically hoping he's not Blofeld.
I don't like you
Can you please elaborate?
Yeah, I get that, just phrased my last comment badly. For one thing, it would make the graves of Bond's parents in Skyfall awfully confusing if Oberhauser hadn't adopted him!
EDIT: Just understood you were making a different point about Charmain being the actual guardian, which I hadn't really thought about. So fair enough.
1. While everything seems to build from the start of the film to a "I am your half-brother" reveal, Bond subverts that by revealing to Oberhauser that he is adopted too.
2. Bond is also the one to reveal to Oberhauser that his real name is ESB.
Good to know. For your parents, too.
Zocalo Square:
Bond manages to pull one of them off the chopper, before jumping into it himself. As it pulls away shakily it’s clear there is fighting going on.
It’s not a stunt for the faint-hearted. The pilot, American Chuck Aaron, is the only person in the world who is able to do 360 degree flips in a helicopter.
From here, filming moves to a site 10 hours from the city where they’re able to safely manoeuvre the helicopter away from some of the most historic buildings in Latin America.
The internal shots will be filmed back at Pinewood studios, bringing into focus the true global scale of Bond.
What everyone's forgetting amongst all the hoolabaloo of "Blofeld is Bond's foster brother oh noooooo" is that while the organisation is in its prime in the film, this is Blofeld's origin story. He's been heading up SPECTRE all this time as Franz Oberhauser, and by the end not only does he hear for the first time that his actual name is ESB but he also gets the signature look by the end. Blofeld before he became Blofeld.
I also have found a strange correlation over the last 4 films
Casino Royale the title of not only the film but the location of the finale
Quantum of Solace title of the film bonds emotional journey and the title of the organization
Skyfall title of not only the film but the location of the finale
Spectre title of the film bonds emotional journey ( being haunted by specters of the past) and the title of the organization
So bond 25 if this pattern continues is going to be also the location of the finale
Silver Phantom
Valley of Shadows
Piz Gloria
Risico
Etc
This is the key distinction, and those not populating this thread are not going to figure this out, until they see the film.
That's why I think Fleming's work has not truly been abominated (may be inventing words here).
Aunt Charmian is still orphan Bond's legal guardian. Hans Oberhuaser is still father figure, and I don't believe he has any legal status vis-a-vis Bond. Charmian is guardian.
However, we have new material- tacked on to Fleming - Hans does also have an actual adopted son named Franz, who as it turns out, doesn't know he was adopted, and is ultimately revealed to be one Ernst Stavro Blofeld, but no actual blood relation to Bond, or even related by adoption - but he is child that knew the young Bond and kinda hated him.
I think Eon was careful to ultimately include at least this level of separation.
But Mendes eats this kind character drama stuff up, so that's why its there, but STILL I think we are also going to get one hell of a Bond film, with Mr. 007, with full mojo intact.
Bond it seems is not attached to Franz at all. At best, he seems indifferent to their lameass history. The history is more Franz's obsession.
Bond it seems, is blunt instrument, happy to do duty, and blow the nutter away.
These may be fine distinctions, and no doubt when everyone has chimed in, post release, the debate will be heated.
Should be interesting.
And I do think @antovolk is correct, in that Eon has substituted for the Blofeld name in the script, for security reasons, ie in case it got leaked. Imagine such a thing. ;)
This is an oddball way to introduce Blofeld origins, so the post-release debate will be fierce.
Although, while I think the integrity of the OP Oberhauser story and Bond's orphan past remains intact, there is no doubt that major liberties have been taken with Fleming's Blofeld origins story, as served up in Thunderball.
But then again, are there actual greivous contradictions, or has Eon merely expanded on the original Fleming Blofeld story?
I'd have to go back and re-read TB. But I am not 100% sure it matters. What makes Blofeld interesting is not so much his past, not where he came from, but what he became, what he is- a monster.
But Mendes would disagree with me, and he's not actually wrong.
Mendes, if he is going to be party to re-introducing an iconic character such as Blofled, is going to demand a dramatic and "worthy" back story in order to fully realize the character.
Even back in the '60s, the original filmmakers attitude was essentially, if you want the backstory to these mega-villains, go read the books, we are not going to dwell in the movies.