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It is not possible to get a zero risk system in a zero risk society. But there are far more massacres of this scale in the US than other Western countries with stricter gun laws. This is not incidental. A madman may find access to guns even with gun control, but he will find this more difficult and he may get caught more easily in the process. Let's not forget also the number of deaths by guns done by members of criminal gangs or s
What is the use of a car? What is the use of a gun? And the use of cars is regulated: you cannot drink and drive, there are speed limits, etc. It does not prevent a misuse of cars, but imagine if no rules applied to ownership and use of cars. How about bringing some more regulations and stricter rules to improve and modernized the second amendment, written more than 200 years ago.
with guns. To be honest Some people give the impression they love their
Weapons more than their own kids or family.
Even the most minor controls on gun ownership ( sensible, minor controls)
Has people ranting like the combatants in " The Purge" films , " It's my right !"
Only my opinion but Britain has some very sensible gun laws. You can still go hunting or target shooting etc. You just can't have a collection of automatic rifles,
Or Machine guns.
The Second Amendment of the U. S. Constitution:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Those who oppose gun regulations always overlook 'well regulated' and 'militia'. They believe every mouth-breathing, knuckle dragger should have no restrictions and be able to have military assault weapons. And Americans own about 42% of all the civilian owned guns on the entire planet.
To this false argument of equating gun deaths with other transportation accidents, autos must be registered and drivers must be licensed.
We should invent a gun for babies, so they can defend themselves ?
They can't read it seems.
Does that also extend to sharks with frickin laser beams for swimming pool defence?
Jesus Christ if this guy is for real he terrifies me.
It has nothing to do with a "regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state", the US Supreme Court has ruled on this.
Boo!
Only the rest of the western world.
I always find ironic that when such massacre happens, the easy access to firearms by the murderer is NOT counted as one of the things that played a role in it.
I believe it's because culturally it's seen as a constitutional right. That's different from in any other country. That is the issue. It's enshrined in their constitution. One can look to the 'regulated' comment etc. but that is details......and with any written document sometimes the details are lost on people. Only the overall thrust is remembered, and that is the right to bear arms
The NRA and weak politicians don't help either.
The constitution was made by a bunch of slave owners hundreds of years ago. Clinging to it like some holy text is just absurd!
I agree. Practically speaking, it should be amended to reflect new realities. That's never going to happen though as the country is increasingly polarized and some commentators/politicians play to the differences rather than the similarities.
Ironically, the only thing that seems to really unify the country these days is a fear of terrorism from outside (and interestingly, not from within), and this further strengthens the nutter's hands (I need my weapon for self-defense because I may be attacked).
Easier to have the external bogeyman I guess.
Pretty much the same way 200 whites with guns walking through the streets of Charleston on their way to church would turn out. To believe otherwise puts you on the same path as the mentally ill person we're discussing here.
It's the ammunition that could be heavily controlled ? If ammunition is
not mentioned in the constitution, there shouldn't be a problem.
To bring the conversation to your level, @Perdogg: I know you are but what is he?
Really now: you're welcome to disagree with him but at least recognize that the dude's pretty smart, okay? This incident is tangled up in at least two different intractable American problems: race and gun control. If you've got something worthwhile to contribute to the discussion then fine, let's hear it. Otherwise go complain about something you don't like about current Bond films; the adults are trying to have a serious discussion here.
Exactly.
Sorry to be coming to the discussion a little late here. There are a few points I'd like to make:
On the question of forgiveness: the families are forgiving the perpetrator because, as Christians, that's what they're SUPPOSED to do. I'm not interested in getting into a theological debate here, just trying to explain to those who've expressed surprise on this topic.
The main issue I see here regards race relations. The USA has recently been faced with a lot of video footage showing mistreatment of black people by police and other officials. This puts the lie to claims that America’s race problems have been solved, quite the contrary in fact. @bondjames is entirely correct in noting that some commentators and politicians have been exacerbating the situation for their own benefit over the past several years. I occasionally think that Elliot Carver is alive and steering the programming on Fox News.
Additionally, the issue of gun control is a peculiarly American one and the fact that we’ve become something of an postliterate society contributes greatly to the limited understanding of the Second Amendment that has already been noted here. As long as the right for individuals to make a profit overrules the needs of society as a whole, this is not an issue I see being solved anytime soon.
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Considering the U.S. is the only western country with capital punishment, and the number of their own citizens executed I s one of the highest in the world (alongside countries such as China, Iran and North Korea), is probably fair to surmise that the death penalty has little or no deterrent - indeed may actually be brutalising the population leading to more murders
Wow! Reading is fundamental. Thanks for proving my point.
Can you imagine what would be acceptable if we hadn't updated the Magna Carta?
This has been changed and updated many times yet America still lives by the same constitution that was drafted up many years ago.
Yeah you had the right to bear arms, they were single shot pistols not fecking automatic weapons the fact that civilians are allowed to have weapons that appear in the average action movie isn't only absurd it's downright dumb and that comment by that NRA member about the deceased preacher was offensive.
It's scary to think how influential the United States is when some yahoo like that has a platform to make such a absurd utterly asinine statement as that.
I'm just glad I don't live in your utterly ridiculous country!