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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @Mattedwardsuk, there was also a BTS pic floating around at one point of Forster directing Christensen in that scene. I really wish they would do a QoS Collector's Edition with the alternate ending and any deleted scenes, but sadly, it'll never happen.

    In fact, aside from that alternate ending, are there any deleted scenes we don't know about? I can't recall having ever seen any.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Mattedwardsuk, there was also a BTS pic floating around at one point of Forster directing Christensen in that scene. I really wish they would do a QoS Collector's Edition with the alternate ending and any deleted scenes, but sadly, it'll never happen.

    In fact, aside from that alternate ending, are there any deleted scenes we don't know about? I can't recall having ever seen any.

    I wish they would go Star Trek The Motion Picture or Aliens and do a different cut of QOS altogether, different editing etc.
    Just imagine how QOS could transform in one of the best Bond movies!
    And I'm sure it is doable, there is just no interest sadly.
  • Is it this one?

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    I just found this one also which I hadn't seen before.

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    That'd be the one. Damn, how I'd love to catch that alternate ending.
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
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    As a comparison of the trailer showing different Patrice deaths in Skyfall and then the actual version used in the film, just hows fluid things change.

    Film Version looks entirely CGI based with him bouncing off the side of the building
    https://youtu.be/kUyrRn-9rEQ?t=146

    Trailer Version he falls forwards head first, looks like a practical stunt effect.
    https://youtu.be/6kw1UVovByw?t=128

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    With the trailer/former photo looking leagues and leagues better than what we received in the film. Was the bump against the building so necessary that they scrapped a beautiful looking shot for bad CGI?
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    That'd be the one. Damn, how I'd love to catch that alternate ending.

    Although with White back in SP maybe this alternate ending of QOS would be null and void. I'd still love to see it.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    With the trailer/former photo looking leagues and leagues better than what we received in the film. Was the bump against the building so necessary that they scrapped a beautiful looking shot for bad CGI?

    I liked the version they used in the film for the film. Was violent and a nice deserving end to Patrice

    The trailer version worked well in the trailer.

    That's just my opinion.
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    It's funny how in retrospect QoS's alternate ending couldn't happen now :)) I guess they just wanted to keep their options available with the future of Quantum and Mr. White. Frankly I'm glad they're bringing him back.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Lol yea that would've worse continuity than Dench's M.
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    http://pro.boxoffice.com/featured_stories/2015-09-long-range-forecast-spectre

    I've found this to be the best US tracking site for upcoming films. They were dead right on MI5 and Uncle, unlike other major US tracking sites. This is their first serious tracking for Spectre and I find it very good news. I never expected SP to do $1b, as I've just been hoping it comes near and clears its budget.

    If this tracking holds, than SF was not a one off with SP going back to just above CR and QOS form which was my concern. This US projection appears to project something around $900m world wide, which would be great in my view. I have always thought $1b or more was too optimistic. China may be the wild card for $1b, but I'm not betting on it doing great SP BO.

    This is probably the wrong thread re BO news, but good SP news is always good news. I'll post this in the BO thread also.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    smitty wrote: »
    http://pro.boxoffice.com/featured_stories/2015-09-long-range-forecast-spectre

    I've found this to be the best US tracking site for upcoming films. They were dead right on MI5 and Uncle, unlike other major US tracking sites. This is their first serious tracking for Spectre and I find it very good news. I never expected SP to do $1b, as I've just been hoping it comes near and clears its budget.

    If this tracking holds, than SF was not a one off with SP going back to just above CR and QOS form which was my concern. This US projection appears to project something around $900m world wide, which would be great in my view. I have always thought $1b or more was too optimistic. China may be the wild card for $1b, but I'm not betting on it doing great SP BO.

    This is probably the wrong thread re BO news, but good SP news is always good news. I'll post this in the BO thread also.

    But how is this good news??
    260 million for the US? Against over 304 that Skyfall did.
    If I calculate the same loss for the rest of the world, Spectre will make short of 950 million.
    Not that this is anything less than a financial success, but in the public's mind Spectre will be considered a flop if it doesn't reach the magical number of a billion.
    Spectre should do 1.3 billion, I bloody well hope so.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Spectre should do 1.3 billion, I bloody well hope so.

    I don't see this happening personally, but we should take it over to the box office thread..
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Spectre should do 1.3 billion, I bloody well hope so.

    I don't see this happening personally, but we should take it over to the box office thread..

    Just did :D
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    Hope the colour grading is different In the final film. The snow scenes look way to warm.
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 11,119
    smitty wrote: »
    http://pro.boxoffice.com/featured_stories/2015-09-long-range-forecast-spectre

    I've found this to be the best US tracking site for upcoming films. They were dead right on MI5 and Uncle, unlike other major US tracking sites. This is their first serious tracking for Spectre and I find it very good news. I never expected SP to do $1b, as I've just been hoping it comes near and clears its budget.

    If this tracking holds, than SF was not a one off with SP going back to just above CR and QOS form which was my concern. This US projection appears to project something around $900m world wide, which would be great in my view. I have always thought $1b or more was too optimistic. China may be the wild card for $1b, but I'm not betting on it doing great SP BO.

    This is probably the wrong thread re BO news, but good SP news is always good news. I'll post this in the BO thread also.

    But how is this good news??
    260 million for the US? Against over 304 that Skyfall did.
    If I calculate the same loss for the rest of the world, Spectre will make short of 950 million.
    Not that this is anything less than a financial success, but in the public's mind Spectre will be considered a flop if it doesn't reach the magical number of a billion.
    Spectre should do 1.3 billion, I bloody well hope so.
    smitty wrote: »
    I posted this in another thread, but I know it belongs here.


    http://pro.boxoffice.com/featured_stories/2015-09-long-range-forecast-spectre

    I've found this to be the best US tracking site for upcoming films. They were dead right on MI5 and Uncle, unlike other major US tracking sites. This is their first serious tracking for SP and I find it very good news. I never expected SP to do $1b, as I've just been hoping it comes near and clears its budget.

    If this tracking holds, than SF was not a one off with SP going back to just above CR and QOS form which was my concern. This US projection appears to project something around $900m world wide, which would be great in my view. I have always thought $1b or more was too optimistic. China may be the wild card for $1b+, but I'm not betting on China doing great SP BO.

    The factual figures were much different @BondJasonBond006 & @Smitty. I usually don't throw too much with arguments that one writes as 'facts'. But it is different when 'facts' really are facts, as you can read down below in a previous post I made in the box office topic. Just take these dubious 'long range forecasts' with a grain of salt. Instead, I find this article a bit more credible: http://austinmarion.hubpages.com/hub/Spectra-Early-Box-Office-Projections. Anyway, don't worry @BondJasonBond006 ;-). Look at my prediction down below.....
    You are wrong @Smitty. BoxOffice.com was entirely wrong with these, rather dubious, early tracking figures. I find these articles so bland really. Early tracking for "Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation" was way off. The actual opening weekend was much smaller as their predicted weekend estimate:

    long range forecast prediction:
    http://pro.boxoffice.com/featured_stories/2015-06-long-range-forecast-mission-impossible-rogue-nation
    Opening weekend: $71,000,000
    Final domestic gross: $197,000,000

    Factual box office results:
    Opening weekend: $55,520,089
    Current domestic gross: $183,612,153

    Conclusion: "M:I - Rogue Nation" slightly underperformed as compared to their long range forecast. The film will not even come close to $197 Million and is, at least for now, in the USA not as succesful as "Ghost Protocol". Reason for that? The last-notice rescheduling. Which BoxOffice.com should have taken more serious.



    With "Furious 7" it was the other way around really. That movie got pushed enormously by the death of Paul Walker, but also because the film received good reviews. I said that beforehand, BoxOffice.com took that too lightly. One can predict that with some more credible social media figures. One also needs to 'feel' trends properly, and Box.Office.com wasn't doing that:

    long range forecast prediction:
    http://pro.boxoffice.com/featured_stories/2015-02-long-range-forecast-furious-7
    Opening weekend: $115,000,000
    Final domestic gross: $260,000,000

    Factual box office results:
    Opening weekend: $147,187,040
    Final domestic gross: $351,032,910

    Conclusion: Like "Skyfall" and "The Dark Knight", boxoffice.com completely underestimated other sudden news events that can really drive up a movie, like the death of a co-star or the Olympics or a 50th Anniversary.



    And one last 'long range forecast' prediction: "Kingsman: The Secret Service". Completely underestimated by the same site. Fox really attached all it's smart marketing efforts on that other competing movie "Fifty Shades Of Grey". It basically 'parasited' on that film wonderfully. BoxOffice.com entirely forgot that. Although I have to say that I'm only critical of these stupid long range forecasts. Otherwise it's a good website:

    long range forecast prediction:
    http://pro.boxoffice.com/featured_stories/2015-02-long-range-forecast-furious-7
    Opening weekend: $23,000,000
    Final domestic gross: $60,000,000

    Factual box office results:
    Opening weekend: $36,206,331
    Final domestic gross: $128,261,724

    Conclusion: Again, this shows how these 'long range forecasts' should be taken with a grain of salt. In the end "Kingsman" was a huge success in the USA and doubled its domestic take as compared to that early prediction



    So I think you're drawing big conclusions too soon. You base your entire prediction on just early tracking? On these rather....flawed attention seeking filler articles? You need to take into account more trendsetting factors. One needs to predict better, 'feel' the mood so to say.

    Trust me, "SPECTRE" will soar past the $350 Million domestically. And the opening weekend will make us all go crazy. I stick with my +$1.2 Billion global box office prediction:

    $88 Million --> Opening Weekend

    $0.304 Billion --> Domestic Gross (North-America)
    $0.059 Billion --> China Gross
    $0.010 Billion --> Mexico Gross
    $0.736 Billion --> Rest Of The World TOTAL +
    __________________________________________________________________
    $1.109 Billion --> TOTAL GLOBAL BOX OFFICE RESULT "SKYFALL"



    I'd say for "SPECTRE" the full box office breakdown will look like this (prediction off course):

    $135 Million --> Opening Weekend

    $0.365 Billion --> Domestic Gross (North-America)
    $0.170 Billion --> China Gross
    $0.045 Billion --> Mexico Gross
    $0.695 Billion --> Rest Of The World TOTAL +
    __________________________________________________________________
    $1.275 Billion --> TOTAL GLOBAL BOX OFFICE RESULT "SPECTRE"
  • Is it this one?

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    And look how fff-ed up Mr White looks nowadays :-P. Something did go terribly wrong with the poor man :-P. We'll find out in 6 weeks time what happened to him the past 7 years since the events in "QOS".
  • edited September 2015 Posts: 6,601
    Is this finally an answer?


    Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:00 pm Post subject:


    Google translated
    Barbara Broccoli: "James Bond Daniel Craig IS End of discussion."

    We posed the question of Recasting the high priestess of the saga. The answer is clear.

    Every week, bookmakers scariest casting directors and fans by announcing 007 new potential candidates to take over the role of James Bond. Idris Elba would be the first black Bond or Damian Lewis, and if it was Tom Hardy ... Yet among gatekeepers, the question does not arise. But absolutely not. Daniel Craig has not finished with the character. Yet we asked Barbara Broccoli, producer of the saga. The answer is final. >>> Idris Elba "too street" to play James Bond >>> And if Tom Hardy became James Bond?

    Let's talk about Daniel Craig. Nobody had expected such a performance in Casino Royale.
    Barbara Broccoli: Nobody except us (laughs) We expected it. We knew he was going to convince the most skeptical. It is an extraordinary actor. All those who knew the films he had made before Bond should have noticed that when it seizes a role, it completely transforms and becomes the character. It is charismatic on screen, it is extraordinary. >>> All cults generic Bond
    Think keep much longer?
    (laughs) We hope so!

    One can regularly read yet possible successors to the role of advertisements in newspapers. Idris Elba, Michael Fassbender ...

    I know. The good side of his ads is that they show the commitment of the public and Bond character to the series, as to be invested in it. So they do all the time suggestions on casting. But in our case, Daniel IS James Bond. End of discussion! Until he himself decides otherwise, we are not, and I even absolutely not add, interested in the idea to consider anyone else in the role. Interview by David Fakrikian 007 Spectre of Sam Mendes with Daniel Craig, Léa Seydoux, Christoph Waltz, Monica Bellucci was released in theaters on November 11:

    http://www.premiere.fr/Cinema/News-Cinema/Barbara-Broccoli-Daniel-Craig-EST-James-Bond-Fin-de-la-discussion-4257005

    DTD

  • Germanlady wrote: »
    Is this finally an answer?


    Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:00 pm Post subject:


    Google translated
    Barbara Broccoli: "James Bond Daniel Craig IS End of discussion."

    We posed the question of Recasting the high priestess of the saga. The answer is clear.

    Every week, bookmakers scariest casting directors and fans by announcing 007 new potential candidates to take over the role of James Bond. Idris Elba would be the first black Bond or Damian Lewis, and if it was Tom Hardy ... Yet among gatekeepers, the question does not arise. But absolutely not. Daniel Craig has not finished with the character. Yet we asked Barbara Broccoli, producer of the saga. The answer is final. >>> Idris Elba "too street" to play James Bond >>> And if Tom Hardy became James Bond?

    Let's talk about Daniel Craig. Nobody had expected such a performance in Casino Royale.
    Barbara Broccoli: Nobody except us (laughs) We expected it. We knew he was going to convince the most skeptical. It is an extraordinary actor. All those who knew the films he had made before Bond should have noticed that when it seizes a role, it completely transforms and becomes the character. It is charismatic on screen, it is extraordinary. >>> All cults generic Bond
    Think keep much longer?
    (laughs) We hope so!

    One can regularly read yet possible successors to the role of advertisements in newspapers. Idris Elba, Michael Fassbender ...

    I know. The good side of his ads is that they show the commitment of the public and Bond character to the series, as to be invested in it. So they do all the time suggestions on casting. But in our case, Daniel IS James Bond. End of discussion! Until he himself decides otherwise, we are not, and I even absolutely not add, interested in the idea to consider anyone else in the role. Interview by David Fakrikian 007 Spectre of Sam Mendes with Daniel Craig, Léa Seydoux, Christoph Waltz, Monica Bellucci was released in theaters on November 11:

    http://www.premiere.fr/Cinema/News-Cinema/Barbara-Broccoli-Daniel-Craig-EST-James-Bond-Fin-de-la-discussion-4257005

    DTD

    BARBARA! I LOVE YOU! MARRY ME!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Nice find @Germanlady.

    But in our case, Daniel IS James Bond. End of discussion! Until he himself decides otherwise, we are not, and I even absolutely not add, interested in the idea to consider anyone else in the role.

    That says it all. Fans, the media and the average Joe can speculate and say what they want but tge producers take comfort in knowing Bond is a hot topic worth talking about by society and their decisions on hand eking their property and who Bond is is entirely their own.
  • doubleoego wrote: »
    Nice find @Germanlady.

    But in our case, Daniel IS James Bond. End of discussion! Until he himself decides otherwise, we are not, and I even absolutely not add, interested in the idea to consider anyone else in the role.

    That says it all. Fans, the media and the average Joe can speculate and say what they want but tge producers take comfort in knowing Bond is a hot topic worth talking about by society and their decisions on hand eking their property and who Bond is is entirely their own.

    Moreover, this makes it quite clear for me that Barbara and Michael are going to offer Daniel Craig shit loads of money to stay in the role.....similar to Connery and Moore. Daniel Craig is here to stay :-).
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Let's hope so. I just want him to do more than 4 Bond films.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I do think he'll be doing a fifth. You can't just bring SPECTRE in and conclude it in one film. I predict there will be more encounters.
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    doubleoego wrote: »
    Let's hope so. I just want him to do more than 4 Bond films.

    ditto. way to go Barbara!!!!!!

  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Well, that's great news!
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    Why you are very exited by the news ? There are nothing new, before you was worried beacause Craig is not motived to doing a 5th Bond and all Barabara said is that she guard him until he want definitely stop...
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Dream on people, what do you expect BB to answer to such a question????

    As if she could say anything different especially 2 months before a new Bond movie hits the theatre.

    As if Craig could decide when to go, I almost had a laughing fit when reading that part.

    So if Craig doesn't want to leave after Bond 25 and he wants to do Bond 26 in 2020, aged 52, of course BB will let him stay. Oh, and probably until he's walking with a crocked stick.
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    Dream on people, what do you expect BB to answer to such a question????

    As if she could say anything different especially 2 months before a new Bond movie hits the theatre.

    As if Craig could decide when to go, I almost had a laughing fit when reading that part.

    So if Craig doesn't want to leave after Bond 25 and he wants to do Bond 26 in 2020, aged 52, of course BB will let him stay. Oh, and probably until he's walking with a crocked stick.
    That will be great.
  • Dream on people, what do you expect BB to answer to such a question????

    It will anyway end all speculations about EON promoting SPECTRE as "Craig's last" to have incredible buzz. Believe or not, some "expert" here claimed it would have been a genius move :)
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