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SPECTRE: Thomas Newman is Back! (appreciation topic)

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  • antovolkantovolk
    Posts: 3,164
    It was only a matter of time haha.

    Anyway here it is from Classic FM's site http://audioboom.com/boos/3693183-world-premiere-of-new-bond-score-spectre-by-thomas-newman
  • BrimarBrimar
    Posts: 95
    Newman is the man! Similar to SF? Absolutely! And why change what was so successful, last time? I don't mean repeat it, but he does not need to do a 180 either.

    And there is still 95 minutes to go!
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Brimar wrote: »
    Newman is the man! Similar to SF? Absolutely! And why change what was so successful, last time? I don't mean repeat it, but he does not need to do a 180 either.

    And there is still 95 minutes to go!

    Well, I am positive. But let's hear the entire score ;-)
  • BrimarBrimar
    edited October 2015 Posts: 95
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Brimar wrote: »
    Newman is the man! Similar to SF? Absolutely! And why change what was so successful, last time? I don't mean repeat it, but he does not need to do a 180 either.

    And there is still 95 minutes to go!

    Well, I am positive. But let's hear the entire score ;-)

    I'm sure the wait will be worth it.

  • RC7RC7
    edited October 2015 Posts: 10,512
    I'd be intrigued to know the thought process behind the 'Grand Bazaar' cue. I wonder if they used it as a guide track in the edit and decided that it worked so well it didn't need too much trimming. Either that, or perhaps it was decided it would serve as the automotive theme of the Mendes era.

    That bit with the choir is so good, I hope there's more of it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I've listened to it about 10 times now with breaks.

    It's not bad......not offensive.....not intrusive....should support the accompanying scene well. My favourite part is the way it ends. There's a 60's spy movie aspect to that ending. The choir element is somewhat 'Batman Danny Elfman' or 'Zimmer' to my ears, but maybe I'll change my view on repeated listens.

    Having said that, it's somewhat generic & run of the mill compared to the franchise's storied past. I guess I'll have to rely on the slower cues to provide some melodic elements.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    bondjames wrote: »
    IThe choir element is somewhat 'Batman Danny Elfman' or 'Zimmer' to my ears, but maybe I'll change my view on repeated listens.

    I was thinking 'Spiderman Danny Elfman', but I don't mind it all. Bit different for Bond and not as generic as the intro.
  • minorMajor9thminorMajor9th
    edited October 2015 Posts: 157
    Backfire reminds me of Dirty Martini from Casino Royale.



    From around 1:39.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2015 Posts: 23,883
    I mentioned in the other thread that I can hear some CR cues in Backfire. However, to my ears there are certain aspects that are more reminiscent of parts of African Rundown and Miami International from that film.

    I wonder if this was intentional....to sort of tie the DC era together.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    I'm really starting to like it. I respect Newman's ideology that the music has to co-exist with the action. We won't know until we see the film, but in this case I think it works.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    Where can I hear Backfire?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Where can I hear Backfire?

    On the SF Soundtrack.
  • SkyfailSkyfail
    Posts: 498
    RC7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Where can I hear Backfire?

    On the SF Soundtrack.

    Haha
    Just hit up Grand bazaar again and you've just got it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    RC7 wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Where can I hear Backfire?

    On the SF Soundtrack.

    Not sure if I'll be crazy about that. Grand Bazaar wasn't the best to me.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    Posts: 10,591
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Where can I hear Backfire?
    On the Classic Fm website or antovolk's YT channel.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    Just heard Backfire and loved it. The choir in it was fantastic and it gives me a nice idea of the pacing of the scene in question.
  • 007bondUK007bondUK England
    Posts: 25
    How dare Newman re-use elements of his OWN music!!! At least John Barry never did that...

    Oh wait....

    He did!



  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    007bondUK wrote: »
    How dare Newman re-use elements of his OWN music!!! At least John Barry never did that...

    Oh wait....

    He did!




    And it's considerably more bombastic and memorable than Grand Bazaar.
  • 007bondUK007bondUK England
    edited October 2015 Posts: 25
    RC7 wrote: »
    And it's considerably more bombastic and memorable than Grand Bazaar.

    You forgot to add "in your limited opinion" :)

  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    Let's wait for the full soundtrack. 2 tracks down, 24 more to go. I'm considerably excited to hear which track could have the gunbarrel music....and I have a feeling "Snow Plane" could be a masterpiece.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    Gustav_Graves wrote: »
    Murdock wrote: »
    I want David Arnold back or Joe Kraemer helming the music department from here on out.

    Give the poor man a break please :-(. Only two tracks and you're asking for change? I find that a bit impatient and also disrespectful towards Thomas Newman.

    I think EON should keep an eye on Henry Jackman and Daniel Pemberton (NOT David Arnold or Joe Kraemer). But here I go as well! Thomas Newman is the composer. Accept it. And if you don't instantly like it, then please let it grow to you....listen to it more often. 'Growers' in music also have a certain beauty.

    I'm judging both tracks on their own merrits. one is good and the other is a mess. Bond music is somthing that's very important to me. I listened to it many times and still don't like Backfire. Legitimate criticism isn't disrespect, I was expecting something different and got more of the same. As I said, I enjoyed Donna Lucia, but not a fan of backfire. I'm not dismissing the whole score. But when it is released I shall be buying it and reviewing it track by track. I'm entitled to my opinions too you know.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    RC7 wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    IThe choir element is somewhat 'Batman Danny Elfman' or 'Zimmer' to my ears, but maybe I'll change my view on repeated listens.

    I was thinking 'Spiderman Danny Elfman', but I don't mind it all. Bit different for Bond and not as generic as the intro.

    You're right actually. The more I listen to it, the Spidey parallel comes to mind for the choir bit.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited October 2015 Posts: 9,020
    I never cared for the Skyfall soundtrack. Newman is the master of lullaby with Skyfall.
    Nothing memorable, the only exception that Grand Bazaar Istanbul track.

    Especially if you know Newman's body of work, Skyfall disappoints immensely imo.

    In that regard he is like Mendes. Both belong to the best of their craft but with Bond (Skyfall) they couldn't provide their masterpiece or one of them.
    IMHO of course, but I really rank almost all other movies from Mendes clearly over Skyfall and the same applies to Newman. He has done some unforgettable masterpieces.

    I will listen to the Spectre soundtrack with an open mind though (of course!).
    I know what the man is capable of and I hope Spectre will be his finest hour.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,976
    Listened to both tracks and I have to say that I'm sincerely impressed; it's sounding much better than what we received for Skyfall, but then again, there are still 22 tracks left to unveil. I may listen to one or two more when they make it online before the film's release, but I want to save a majority of them for my first viewing.
  • BondFaninFLABondFaninFLA
    Posts: 16
    007bondUK wrote: »
    How dare Newman re-use elements of his OWN music!!! At least John Barry never did that...

    Oh wait....

    He did!




    Now Now...let's be nice. Comparing a legendary musical artist like Barry to Newman is like comparing Die Another Day to Casino Royale.
    I personally enjoyed the track and am VERY eager to see how it accompanies, what is sure to be, an epic scene in the film.
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
    Posts: 1,329
    If we get the '007' theme like in 007 takes the lektor I'll soil my undies in delight.
  • RC7RC7
    edited October 2015 Posts: 10,512
    007bondUK wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    And it's considerably more bombastic and memorable than Grand Bazaar.

    You forgot to add "in your limited opinion" :)

    Alright, Johnny Five Posts.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2015 Posts: 23,883
    DCisared wrote: »
    If we get the '007' theme like in 007 takes the lektor I'll soil my undies in delight.

    I'll be ecstatic too, but hopefully can stop short of making a mess in the theatre. It's been 36 long yrs since we've heard this incredible work of art, so accidents are acceptable within reason I would think....
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
    Posts: 1,329
    bondjames wrote: »
    DCisared wrote: »
    If we get the '007' theme like in 007 takes the lektor I'll soil my undies in delight.

    I'll be ecstatic too, but hopefully can stop short of making a mess in the theatre. It's been 36 long yrs since we've heard this incredible work of art, so accidents are acceptable within reason I would think....

    Ha ha
  • antovolkantovolk
    edited October 2015 Posts: 3,164
    New soundtrack preview (idk yet if new track or not) and Newman interview from BBC Radio 3 (starts at 48 minutes) http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06gt253

    EDIT: it's just Backfire again.
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